No

/tenchar

 

Pretty much this. I could see Finn having a thing for Rey, but she didn't seem more than friendly towards him. More fire-forged friends at this stage than anything else.

Also CheddarTrek, as has been pointed out, I was talking about Han's death scene

 

Just like with the Death Star I can only assume that this is another big-ass thing that can self-propel at FTL speeds.

But this is Star Wars, so there's an obligatory "fuck you" to physics.

 

That's probably the only viable solution. Otherwise it would be a superweapon with X shots where X = the numbers of nearby stars and that would be a pretty big oversight.

Still though, a planet that can hyperspace travel? Ugh.

 

Unless it's designed to simply wiping out the republic leadership and the resistance, allowing the First Order to sweep in during the chaos and launch a full scale invasion of Republic space.

 

Really, really emjoyed it. Specially the characters and that wonderful feeling of adventure that Episode IV had. Except the pacing and Starkiller problems (which everyone already mentioned), I will reserve my judgement on the other problems until the other sequels are out, since they can just as easily be conscious choices and I want to see if they did it right.

Finn definitely has a crush on Rey (who hasn't), but in no way that's shown to be recripocrated, he is merely treated as her first (and best) friend, which fits on how lonely she is. The fights were amazing, no acobratics thankfully, and the dogfights were the best of any sci-fi movie ever for me. Rey 'specialness' was foreshadowed plenty of times, specially her abilities.

'She knows the Milenium Falcon better than Han' well, no. She, who made her living for yes being a spaceship parts scavenger, knows spaceship parts better than a smuggler, a spaceship that was modified a lot of times during the years he didn't see it, so... yeah. Not hard to believe.

I look forward to see more of Poe and I really want that Luke is as badass as he seems to be. So happy they didn't try to make a Han Solo 2.0. That was probably the biggest and most consistent problem with EU. So many of them.

 

Well, can't say that I'm that enthused with it being ANH 2.0, but nostalgia is nostalgia, I suppose.

I think the problem some of us have with Kylo Ren is that, well, his Sith outfit looks like Revan's. And when we think of Revan, we think "badass". Instead, we get shades of whiny Anakin 2.0 from the prequels among other things.

Bit of a letdown.

 

Kylo Ren is a good villain for the new trilogy. You can't replicate Darth Vader, so I'm glad they're not even trying. He's a bit like Anakin right now, but I think he'll be suitably terrifying in later movies. I'm pretty happy we get to see him grow into that instead of already being there. The only thing I wish was different for him is that he didn't get it handed to him by Rey at the end. I would have been okay with it being a draw, but Ren got fucking wrecked. That's my main complaint so far.

 

That's fair enough, but they could have, at least, not made his costume so much like Revan's. Yeah, perhaps I played too much KOTOR or read too many KOTOR fanfics, but when I see a guy dressed very similarly to Revan, I expect a different kind of villain (to the one we've got here), you know?

 

Well I understand her having decent knowledge about space ships BUT ... this is the Falcon. A unicum (if it wasn't, it wouldn't be one of the most infamous spaceships in the galaxy). A spaceship nearly only ever flown by Han Solo, a ship he even calls "home".
And what was changed? I only know about one thing. And as often as Han and Chewbacca had to repair the ship, I think it unlikely that he doesn't exactly know how to solve problems with it.

 

Agreed.

I also think that if they do go down the route of Rey being Luke's daughter, they should give a nod to Mara Jade in passing.

 

Concerning Starkiller Base, I assumed that it would take an X number of shots to deplete the star. Did I hear something wrong? My take on it was that Starkiller was supposed to be this doomsday thing, only used on the most important targets, like in the film. After those targets were destroyed, the weapon would not be used anymore, because hey, don't want to destroy the star of our own system, no?

All of the above was based on the assumption that stars are big ass things, so no biggie if you suck up a chunk of it (looked like they were hoovering up the star's matter), there's still plenty left.

The idea of an FTL-capable planet boggles my mind, but hey, they built the biggest BFG ever into that planet so who knows.

 

Pretty sure the Starkiller doesn`t consume a whole star to fire once... It only consumes/siphones a part of a star to charge up but not the whole thing. It would take an unspecified number of firings to deplete the sun/star, at least that is how I remember they explained it in the movie.

And for the whole Jacen/Mara Jade thing - I am happy that they didn`t go that route. Both Names/characters come with far too much baggage to make the nod to the relatively small fanbase that knows/loves them worth it, at least in my opinion.

 

Maybe this complaint is misplaced, but I watched the three-way from TPM again and I think it's still the best duel of the movies. Don't get me wrong, I liked TFA's duels (as Jon put it, straight-up violent attempts at maiming), but I think it could have been shot better. I could see what was going on in TPM.

Going to see TFA again next weekend with a friend.

 

OWK vs Grievous still my fav.

 

One-liner preceding the fight is the best part.

"Hello there."

Back on topic, I enjoyed the first part of the finale in TFA more. I mean Ren vs Finn. Finn rules.

 

Okay, while I saw Finn's attraction to Rey, obviously she friend-zoned him like a lightning strike. So WTF is up with all the romance talk everywhere? I'm seeing Ren/Rey talk also. I'm WTF'ing all over the place on that one.

I saw more potential for romance between Poe and Finn. When they met up again with the Resistance, I was like, "Please don't kiss. Please don't kiss." The hug was uncomfortable enough. What happened to the old handshake/two pats on the back thing guys do?

 

Not even 'that guys do', more like 'that casual acquaintances do'.

A lot of the relationships felt clumsy and forced (hur). Very OTT and unsubtle.

 

I think it comes from a few places. The first is simple: Primary female characters in modern blockbusters are pretty much required to have a romantic arc. Everyone expects it, it almost certainly will happen at some point because that's simply how movies are, and so the only option currently is Finn as she hasn't even met Poe (to my memory).

The second is that she is obviously very attached to Finn for reasons that don't wholly communicate to the screen. Many see their relationship, such as it is, as one of fire forged friends, after all they go through a lot together in a very short time. However, a lot of their hardships aren't really depicted as such, the viewer doesn't really share in their pain. That leaves some viewers seeing the relationship as something else.

Another reason is because the way it is currently playing out is not dissimilar to how one would imagine a romance to play out between them. It's clear that they want to play a little with the gender roles in this story and so in many ways Finn is currently 'The Chick' while Rey is the one on the hero's journey. Viewed through that lens having Finn following Rey around like a lost puppy to be rewarded in the third film by returned affections is a not uncommon trope.

At least that's my take on the subject. I find myself swinging between being unsure if I'm supposed to see something (it is Hollywood and it's almost law that there's a romantic sub plot somewhere) and hoping that I'm not. They've done some pretty good work with Rey as a character, I don't want to see that pissed away for a cheap gooey-eyed romance (like, say, Widow/Banner in Avengers).

 

I was pretty firmly in the camp that saw just friends and no romance, until she kissed Finn's forehead at the end. Now, that can of course be purely friendship, but it could also hint at something more.

Thematically, thinking across the entire 9 movie arc, considering that Rey is the next in the Anakin-Luke-Rey line (of powerful Jedi protagonists, not necessarily blood relations), it would be interesting and neat for them to close out the 9 films with a kind of Anakin done right. Like, Rey faces the same choices as Anakin but she chooses right. This could manifest in the form of Rey indeed feeling a romantic attraction to Finn, but where Anakin was ruled by his emotions, and where even Luke fails to be a true Jedi in many senses, Rey is the one to finally live out the Jedi ideal, foregoing attachment and thereby being the true resurrection of the Jedi.