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Will Dramione be a hit if introduced in the 7th book.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SDewey, Dec 20, 2006.

  1. SDewey

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    Well,firstly, the odds are extremely against a Draco/Hermione in the 7th book as J.K. Rowling already announced the stuff about Hermione and Ron, but whatever. The fact is, will readers accept it if it is actually released? I would. But most of the stories about Draco/Hermione has to be cast them as the main characters and that is not possible. The stories about them are also a big fat cliche and straight up smut somewhere in the story. The odds are really stacked up against them. Very good authors will be able to pull it off though, and seriously, you'll find yourself addicted with the ship if you read a well-done story of it. A lot of angst in it though, there will usually, to an extent where i would say always, a break-up somewhere in between. Usually, the story is set in their 7th year, and they are head boy and girl, have to share a common-room, blah blah blah. I know the whole concept already. I have been reading Draco/Hermione for over a year and most of them have this concept. Some are odd though, which makes me like them even more. The common crowd is for authors who have no creativity. So overall, if it actually does appear, well, all for the better! Big note, on a fanfiction website, the most popular ship in Harry Potter is in fact, Draco/Hermione, and it is still expanding. :) Main point, Ron will get upset and i will kill him if he actually gets away with Hermione:cool: So, overall, we should be able to take it well.

    Note: This is my first post, be kind, and tell me what you think on the possibility of Draco/Hermione and whether do you support it or not. Don't go out of your way if you don't like them together, i want to see whether you guys like them together, or not. :confused:
     
  2. bizzle

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    DLP'ers would never support Dramione. Honestly, Malfoy doesn't deserve a love life. He deserves death via :forkyou. I see that this is your first post here, but please refrain from bringing up the topic of the Ferret shagging Herman. If you want to discuss Dramione, then go post a thread about it on Fictionalley.

    Also, please read the rules, stickies, and faq's before making posts.

    P.S. It ain't gonna happen in book 7, and if it did, my future would be stained.
     
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  3. Nexus

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    I don;t support it. But let me ask you a question. What are the odds that Dramione will be introduced int book 7?

    1> Malfoy is on the run after allowing DEs into Hogwarts if not for killing Dumbledore. So no chance of him becoming Head Boy or coming back to Hogwarts.

    2> Hogwarts might shut down.

    3> In true JKR style the 'Golden Trio' will prolly be galavanting about trying to destroy Horocruxes and frankly if she does introduce them those conditions I would stop reading.

    And did you know that even if Dramione is quite numerous in Fanfiction world, Drarry is the more popular one? Do you advocate that too?

    I am not being harsh. But you are asking only those who like Dramione to post in this thread?....why?

    Now, Let loose the Hounds of War.

    Word of caution: This is your first post. Go to the Intro threads and introduce yourself first.
     
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  4. Thalarian

    Thalarian Seventh Year

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    Ok...normally I'm not an asshole. In fact, a lot of the time I applaud those who stick to their views.

    But in this instance I'm going to make an exception and kindly go:

    What. The. Fuck. Are. You. Thinking?

    Do you realise what you just said? Nah uh! Don't look at me like that! Take your eyes off me for a moment and go re-read what you just typed out. Ok, you done?

    You wrote...Dramione? What the hell? Do you have no decency? I was actually trying to eat before you posted this and now I'm smacked in the face with a name that sounds like a disease you'd claim was Sloth Herpe's.

    Really, Dramione? Do we support Dramione? Do we like Dramione? Do we think Dramione will happen in Book 7? Do we believe in Dramione? Ok, let me answer your question with a question.

    Would you like it if a Sloth took his sweaty, moss covered, diseased and possibly inflammed nuts that are covered with something that looks like acne with teeth and just plopped them on your forehead? Not just plopped, but smothered your forehead with it's acorns? Not just smothered, but saute'ed those bad boys in like 90 degree weather on you forehead? His nuts sizzling like Sskksssssssssssssssssssssssss?

    No?

    Then there's your answer!!!

    Ok kids, let's look at the facts here.

    1. Does Draco like Hermione? No
    2. Does Hermione like Draco? No
    3. Does Draco like 'Mudbloods'? Hell no.
    4. Does Hermione like being called a mudblood? If I remember right she socked the fucker.

    Ok, now let's ROLEPLAY!

    Now, let's say I'm Hermione, bad hair and all. And Marcus over there...

    *Black guy waves in the distance*

    ...is gonna be Draco. Now, in this scene, I'm going to sit in a room with Marcus and he's gonna call me a cracker. Now let's just watch what happens.

    /scene

    Marcus: Yo ya mutha fuckin pussy cracka'!!
    Chris: *Knocks the fucker out with a combination lock in his hand*

    /scene.

    Ok, did you see what just happened there? He called me a racial name. Similar to 'Mudblood.'. I knocked his ass out. What we've established here is called 'Hate'. 'Hate' leads you to want to rip the other person's nuts off and feed them to their parents, who obliviously eat them because they think they are special meatballs in my Spaghetti sauce.

    There is no thin line between love and hate. Hate is hate, because you want to kill someone that pisses you off. Now let's take another look. Let's say that I still hate Marcus but he's just suddenly realized he likes my white ass as if I was the only anal virgin in Cell Block D. Now keep in mind, I still hate him after what he said to me, even though he's lusting after me and possibly even loves me.

    /scene

    Marcus: Yo Chris, I riggity realized that I, liggity love you!
    Chris: *Knocks the fucker out with a combination lock in his hand*

    /scene

    Well, today's lesson is that someone that hates someone else, whether the other person is in love with them or not, does not send those feelings back.

    You know I tried a well written Draco/Hermione. And 95% of them are written by fangirls that want to be in Hermione's shoes because they think Tom Felton is hot.

    No I don't support that couple only because there is nothing between them. Draco / Hermione will not happen in Book 7. It will never happen in canon. It will never happen in DLP because Draco is an arrogant bastard 99.99999% of the time, the rest he's being a pussy. Hermione may be bossy, but shes at least smart enough that she wouldn't fall for someone who basically made her life a living hell, as well as a living hell for two guys that actually mean more to her then blonde hair, namely, Ron and Harry.

    So no, it's hard enough for me as is to believe they would ever be together. There's no plot device good enough to be used. Draco was never under any type of mind warp, he hated Hermione, Ron and Harry from Day 1. The roleplaying I did here today with Marcus is more then enough evidence to show that Dramione will not happen!

    It will be a hit with fangirls who scream and cream themselves in line when they see Tom Felton in the movie poster's. Readers and authors that actually give a damn about plot and even some canon-esque material will not support it because one can't wrap their mind around something so blatantly atrocious and unbelievable.

    In closing, Dramione does not exist. Draco and Hermione hating each other does. And also for the record, I do not support racism, so maybe that's why I hate the couple so much! >_<
     
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  5. Dark Lord Rostam

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    What the fuck? Fucking Dramione? You like Hermione? Your fucking weird. All your fucking doing is giving us fanon evidence for Dramione. Fanon is NOT canon. No, it will fucking fail. First, H/Hr would despise, H/Hg would hate it, R/Hr would fucking scream, every one would hate it except D/Hr.

    And, it has no chance of happening. No way she could pull it off. Those "very good authors" are nothing compared to J.K.

    First, Draco is on the run. Hermione is a Mudblood. Ron and Harry would kill Draco. Hermione is a Mudblood. Draco is a supremacist. HERMIONE IS A MUDBLOOD!

    It would fail.
     
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  6. ip82

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    I could imagine a number of interesting post-HBP scenarios involving Malfoy & Hermione. But the thing is, I don't give a shit for either of these characters. I couldn't take Dramoine or Hraco or whatever the fangirls are calling it these days as anything other then an amusing sideplot.

    The problem is that writers who like this pairing ALWAYS make it the main feature of the story, with Harry, Voldemort and the fate of the entire world being mere sidefeatures, orbiting around this ethernal love (agh!)...

    If it's JKR's work we're speaking about, then the answer this to Hraco (I think I like this abrevation better) question is one big NO.

    Hello?! We're talking here about a writer who managed to screw up even the simplest romantic plot, of a famous hero getting on with one of his adoring fangirlsl! Why the hell do you think she'll be able to portray a realistic transformation of a relationship between two enemies and fit that in with the global plot, where they are supposed to be working against each other!? It'd be like asking a monkey to make sculptures out of shit he digs out of his ass, instead of throwing it around, hoping he might hit something.

    To conclude, I think the book 7 will be crappy enough without any further romance extravaganza on JKR's part.
     
  7. Necrule Paen

    Necrule Paen DLP Elite DLP Supporter

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    Well sure it could but I would think that Pepto Bismol would be more effective because its not exactly motion sickness that we all will be dealing with.

    Oh you meant Draco/Hermione! I thought you meant Dramamine. I guess I shouldn't be posting tired as I am. But honestly Dramamine makes a hell of alot more sense than that pairing ever happening.

    So instead let's have a discussion about the possible sales increase of Dramamine following the release of the Seventh Book. You all know my thoughts but where do the rest of you stand?
     
  8. Inquisition

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    Mmm, dramamine. Stuff is starting to taste good; I needed a bottle a day for a month after reading HBP, never mind Book Seven.

    As for "Dramione"?

    First of all, that just sounds stupid. Are people too lazy to add a few letters and put a slash in between? Like "Honks". It sounds like a fic where you're stuck in traffic. Or "Snarry". This is interpreted in my brain as "Scary", which in fact, it is.

    Secondly, I dont see how that would happen anyway. For the first five reasonably written books, Draco was pretty much doing nothing but this:

    :banana:

    Then, along comes HBP, or the
    Hairy Bastard's Precum
    in which he actually lived up to the qualifications of being a Slytherin, being sneaky, underhanded and cunning.

    Then, and the other hand, you have Hermione, who's degenerated even further from being "that stuck up prissy bitch who keeps one-upping you in class, nah nah nah nah boo boo" to being a drooling fangirl for Ron. Which just spells out "brain damage".

    Despite all the quick character redevelopment, as was said above, Draco is a racist arse who will be flogged to death one day for saying something stupid, returning to his proper character, and Hermione will end up a lonely old lady with cats, working in a library until the end of her days.
     
  9. Ayreon

    Ayreon Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    It can be a decent read, but it would of course be OOC for Draco and Hermione.
    But if you would care so much about the characterization in the books, then there would be no intelligent or dark or powerful Harry... and Dumbledore would be Jesus himself.

    It is a lot harder to pull off after Book 6 and you are right if you say, that this always results in Romance as the main feature of the story. :(

    (...and Hermione suddenly has to become a really pretty, or Malfoy would never even glance at her if there were prettier pureblooded witches out there. ;))

    All in all: It will not happen in Book 7. It will not happen in stories that are close to canon.
    If it does happen in a story, it's some love/hate romance... and I don't read HP for romance...
     
  10. World

    World Oberstgruppenführer DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    The only 'hit' would be my standing five hours in line to have my copy signed only to smack JKR upside the head with it if anything like that ever happened.
     
  11. Tinn Tam

    Tinn Tam Review Goddess Retired Staff

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    I have to disagree. Well, of course I do; I am one of the very few members here who still have some respect for JKR and canon, HBP included (but Ginny excluded). I have read and written here a few HBP-compliant stories that showed Harry developing, from the teenager he still is at the end of HBP, into a grown-up who is his own master. And there is plenty of material in the books for writing Dumbledore as a human being with his flaws and weaknesses.

    On the Dramione issue:

    In fanon? It is, indeed, the most popular het pairing; just as H/D is the most popular slash pairing--or pairing at all, slash or het.

    It sucks.

    Plain and simple. Malfoy/Hermione is just an excuse for writing a story about impossible love *insert snort*. This, apart from being the most clichéd plot ever taking all genres together (whether it is fandoms or original work), is also the pretext to happily mutilate canon by writing Malfoy and Hermione completely OOC.

    Malfoy is a bigoted spineless controlling imbecile. Hermione is a bossy ill-tempered muggle-born despising imbecility as a rule, especially when it has the face of a blonde ferret. That's writing In Character. The only way they can get along is if they are hung on the same tree; and even then, I'm sure they would be trying to kick each other as they are slowly asphyxiated.

    So that explains just how much your assumption of seeing some 'Dramione' in the final book is ludicrous. JKR isn't afraid of clichés herself, and the fact that impossible love is the most overused plot in the history of literature is not the kind of things that stop her. She did write something close to 'impossible love'. However, she was smart enough to write about a couple that wasn't completely impossible or far-fetched: James/Lily. Apparently very different, in constant conflict, but both Gryffindors, despising the Dark Arts and supporters of Dumbledore.

    James/Lily stories have the same clichés as Malfoy/Hermione ones; only, for the former, it's only embroidering (without much creativity) on a canon relationship, and for the latter, it's murdering canon.

    To answer the title of the thread: if anything like 'Dramione' happened in canon, I would lose my faith (already weakened by the Harry/Ginny disaster) in JKR, toss my copy of the seventh book in the Seine and sit here thinking about all I could have done with the money I wasted on that book.

    Then I'll go and read/write a good fanfic.
     
  12. MadBiologist

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    I think the reason D/Hr is so popular in fanon is that it has all the ingredients of a tragic romance like Romeo and Juliet. Two people from two enemy factions fall in love despite all the odds stacking against them. This is a premise that can appeal to any romantically-inclined fangirl.

    However, the chances that JKR will include this pairing in Book 7 are non-existent. The reasons why have been largely explained in other people's replies. I will just summarize by saying that Malfoy Jr (I refuse to use the name Draco) is a Pureblood racist looking down on Mudbloods and that he is even pussier (does that word exist ?) than HBP Harry. He will never have the balls to defy his father or Voldemort by getting involved with a non-Pureblood. Finally, his intelligence is average at best, as well as his wizard's power. In short, he has nothing that would appeal to Hermione. (Note that the last descriptions can also be applied to Ron, and JKR still put them together).

    It's already bad enough that Ginny won't die and Snape is proven to be good in Book 7. If, in addition of all this, she puts Malfoy and Hermione together, I won't bother buying this book, because it will be utter crap in my opinion.
     
  13. Naga's Shadow

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    You have to remember that Romeo and Juliet fell in love at first sight, thee wasn't six year of bad blood between them and then suddenly love. Its not like Draco transferred in from Drumstang and only knew he wasn't supposed to like mudbloods. The only way that D/Hr will happen is if Draco kidnaps Hermione, uses and abuses her and we get some stocholme syndrome effects.
     
  14. Tinn Tam

    Tinn Tam Review Goddess Retired Staff

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    Know the saddest part of it? This particular idea was used. By one of the biggest author of Malfoy/Hermione stories out there, someone called Queen of Serpents, I think.

    Biggest case of OOCness in a serious (and quite well-written) fiction.

    Anyway...

    *goes back to the review she's working on*
     
  15. Dasha

    Dasha Second Year DLP Supporter

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    Really? Did I miss something important here?

    To Topic: IMO No, they won't be together, and I don't want them to. It just not plausible. Look at Draco's girlfriend (Pansy) she almost writes down every his word. And he enjoying(?) this attention. Hermione is not the type to do it (she rather like to show-off herself). Malfoy needs somebody to dot on him. Granger needs someone to be impressed with her. It won't work. And I didn't even began about their...errr..social classes.
    I'm impressed by tolerancy of the posts by the way.(joking)
     
  16. MadBiologist

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    It was discussed in the Book 7 speculation thread. JKR had a Q&A session in August and she gave some clues about Book 7.

    There's the link to the livejournal page of somebody who was there:
    http://titti.livejournal.com/399967.html

    If you want the transcript:
    http://www.hpana.com/news.19542.html
     
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  17. k_writer

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    *Sigh*

    You know...I am definitely not a big fan of Malfoy in cannon, or in fannon, but in my own little [EDIT: tiny] corner of DLP I do not loathe his very exisitence the way many of my lovely peers do.


    HOWEVER.

    If JKR put Hermione and Malfoy together....wait...hold on a minute, let me just...

    *vomits*


    I would have elaborated, but I think I shall simply refer you back to Thalarian and Tinn Tam's responses to your question.
     
  18. the-caitiff

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    I have to agree with everyone else. There may be a thin line between *annoyance* and love, but the line between hate and love is five or six hundred meters of machine guns, land mines, and close air support. You don't make it across that line alive, and those one in a billion exceptions get hunted down by their own sides. Let me remind you that Romeo and Juliet both wound up dead.
     
  19. Xanatos

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    This is retarded, not only do I hate Malfoy and Herm really pisses me off at times too, this has to be one of the stupidest pairings ever.

    I'm sure meeting the parents would be fun!

    Hermione-"Mum, Dad, this is Draco, he's a wizard who's been brought up to hate Mudbloods, wizards born from muggles (thats me!), has tried at every opportunity to hurt me, and has made me feel horrible since I've met him. But now we're in LURVE!!!!112OMGZ@@#@#!11

    Draco(OMGHESSOHAWT!!!)-"Mother, Father, this is Hermione, shes a mudblood, but I hope you will accept her as my lover, or I shall through a hissy fit and storm into my room, as we all know I'm a complete pussy."

    In conclusion, yes, it is likely to happen, and I hope it does!

    NOT
     
  20. madeyemoody

    madeyemoody High Inquisitor

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    Hey,

    Dramione will never happen

    go edit and photoshop some more pics like this one you sick bastard



    Dramione.org
    [​IMG]

    I feel so sorry for actors sometimes

    madeyemoody
     
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