Alright

I think there's a good chance you won't participate. You've got a history of it and I worry that you having lump will make it harder to pressure you into contributing. The d2 lynch thing was a hypothetical.

I reject the premise of this point. I don't think I dodged anything and the hypotheticals were valid.

I always beat the no lurkers drum. If it was the only thing I was posting about it might be alignment indicative.


I'm wary to say that post says anything about his alignment since I can't exactly judge it impartially. But gun to my head, I don't think town kai cares what I said about him and doesn't make that post.

 

Yes. This is how I treat partners. With a clear, discernible pattern. There is simply no way we are all town townreading each other.

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Actually, nah.

Vote: Bill Door

Garbage reasons for scumreads are garbage. This is not your townplay.

Excuse me while I remind myself of your townplay to make sure the above statement is correct.

 

Catching up on phone.

Sorry for my absence. I got caught for posting too much last time, so I thought I'd try lurking this game. And doubling down on jokes.

[Color="red][B]Vote Sesc[/B][/color]

I strongly dislike post #100. Wrong reason to townread me, wrong reason to scum read Tom, bunch of bad other comments. See Newcomb's "careful scum" profile. I don't want him priest checked, I want him dead.

QUOTE=Jan;926828]
I thought Fontis read on Von was 100% too early. I agree that he is likely town by now, but I do not think that is was that obvious by the time she first gave that read.

I just read back the earlier pages and realized I missed Vons initial introduction post. While it is not 100% clearing, I can see why fonti might be inclined to read him town early on.
.[/QUOTE]
I want to scumread Jan, but this turnaround probably makes him town.

KaiDASH chainsawing me revokes his lump privileges. Let's give it to Tom.

[Color="green"]Lump: tom [/color]

Uh, I'm out of time. More later. People should legit fight me instead of throwing shade thats indescernible from light distancing.

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Fuck phones, I don't have time to fix that.

@Eido. Please count that vote despite failed tags.

 

Duly noted.

 

An exercise in confirmation bias has shown me that I'm right. See this thread. This was back when Bill was happy to correctly townread me, posted lightly, didn't fall back on hammering lurkers, liked people who were sure and supported their opinions, and wanted lump a hell of a lot more than he does here.

 

Well, my game with thug is over.
We lost to scumcitric.

@vaimes we have to win this one now. We've yet to win together IIRC

Home in an hour. Ish.

 

Lmao. Scum!Citrus.

 

I think Bill has a point regarding giving Kai lump, but, eh. I think we have enough of a firm playerbase here that we don't really need a lump leader.

Lump Tom

Hi. You seem like a good priest check.

I've been meaning to explain my mal and Jan reads, but it's proving hard to do. For mal, I think he feels very different from his recent scum games. I believe that when he's pushed people to vote or asked questions, that he believed in them. For Jan, I think that because he has similar reads to me, but for a good while he hinted at them instead of flaunting them, that he's likely town. I think if he were scum trying to match my reads, he would have had a different approach, perhaps making detailed reasons on a few people and trying to beat me to the punch in some cases. Since he's taken this approach instead, I believe he's come by the reads genuinely, which makes him very town.

I also like Sesc, in part because he's agreeing with me. I wouldn't quite call it a townread, in part because I know Sesc is capable of defending himself regardless of his alignment and doesn't need me backing him up. I felt a bit uncomfortable with his initial townread on me, for the reasons Jan pointed out, but his recent post seems like what town Sesc would say. /shrug.

 

Good morning .. back from my 15 hour sleep.

With only around 24 hours elft in the day I should come clean for my reasoning. It is not completely what fonti, but the direction is not wrong.

My thought process before I went to bed was this :

Jan

Snowvon
Atum

Fontisian

Mallorean Thug

The Waco Kid
Weiyaoli

Sesc

Tom
Delphine

KaiDASH
Bill Door

Reaverb Tau


Will go into reasons for some of those.

Von is Von is Von is boring. good to have a a townread but nothing to talk about.

Atum is almost always town. Fontis read on him does not make a lot of sense in a w/w world.
She has to think that at least 1 person between Von, Waco, Sesc, Kai, Delphine, Bill, Wei and myself have some sort of meta read on him, which means she is unlikely to lie about that read (if they are both wolves then there is max 1 scum in the other mentioned people).
If she is town then she 100% believes in it.

That together with the fact that Atum has played a fairly towny game so far makes me sure he is almost always town.

Fontis approach to the game is close to the last witchhunt on fs. Fairly open with most of her reads and more importantly I think most of her reads are town/on point.


Now the next part is the main reason why I did not want to talk too much about things.

Mal and Waco are two people i have a town lean on, but to confirm that read I just need more.
I liked Wacos response to me when prodded, it was not that much about actual content for this game, but I still really liked it. After being burned once for giving him an early townread for towny early d1 (as mentioned before) I am just iffy about it and need him to sustain it.

But that is not the biggest of deals. I think if Waco is town then he is able to confirm himself for the most part just by being towny for several days in a row.

I liked Weis questions and constant prodding right after we left rvs. I thought that there was some opportunism in his question to fonti, but he cleared it up calm and with ease.


Sesc can go either way. Low postcount, but the content was ok.


Tom - has done a few things that I dislike, such as advertising lump for several people that I think are not good checks at the moment.
His focus on me is irrittating, but only for the reason that he told waco that a find of his reagarding bill door was good, when waco even quoted me in his post because I mentioned it before.
I am unsure if he is half assed town with those two things or scum.

Kai & Bill did similar things regarding th lump.
They both pretty obviously do not want the lump.
As town if someone pushes lump in your face you are more likely to want it.

Kai has not self lumped, or made a serious comment about wanting the lump. 3 people voted for lump-kai : Von, Mal, myself.
Scum did not push lump for kai so far.

Kais response to me pushing lump on him, was his normal shitposting at the start, but then he made a post like this :

This does not say anything about Bill Door /might be partners might be genuine), but everyone who reads this is more likely to say "Nah, Kai doesn't need to the lump."

This is not the hardest evidence ever, but my gut says it is not unlikely for Kai to be scum.

I don't disagree with the pressure on Bill Door on the other hand. I need to read his play in the linked witchhunt later today, but I really don't want to right now.
I said early on why I disliked him, the points brought up by others only strenghten that read.

Reaverb is meh.
His overly tryhard early approach is something i would read slightly scummy and wait for reactions, but I can see why he would do it as town as well (I will not talk about it because I do not feel like handing people excuses).
He just needs to talk during the last 24 hours of d1


Unsure about delphine, her response was ok, but nothing else. She is not blowing me out of the water with anything she has done so far.

I think Bill / Kai are good people to look at for a lynch.

Lump should go somewhere in the middle pile.
Delphine, Tom .. maybe the person between Bill / Kai that does not get lynched, because a check on them would be good (and they are useful as town).
Reaverb only if he comes back into the thread with some fire.

Fakeedit :
Just realized I didn't mention mal too much.
Early stuff felt loose and genuine. I liked some parts of his post coming back into the thread earlier today. (I don't think that if the gamestate is what i think it is, that he gives me the townread there as scum, it is strictly against his wincon).

 

Jan, thoughts on Bill Door?

Skimming back through last night's posts, Jan's "The game is already nearly solved," doesn't sit well with me.

I'll take completely unhelpful for 600, Alex

I was kinda surprised how poorly Bill responded to pressure.

Anyone know if/when Reaverb Tau is supposed to be back?

Wei & Von are my top 2 town atm

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Ninja edit: Jan, you really think Bill & Kai are scum together with how they've been interacting? And Reaverb too?

Seriously?

 

Did you read Jan's walkthrough or just look at the wall before you made that edit?

 

Sesc #248: That sounds reasonable
Mallorean: What do you think about Fonti beyond her Von read and Jan? Actually if you had a full wall that'd be great.

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Just the wall, let me look over the rest

 

Waco - while you might not like my read on the gamestate or me feeling good about it and openly admitting to it, but do you disagree on my read on fonti, because you quoted it and according to your comment about it you seem to.

Or you are incappable of cutting quotes. Curious what of the two it is.

If you have additional questions on my stance on the game, feel free to ask.

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Now is the time where people can try pushing the world where I am with fonti and Atum, because I have now townread him. Not so much because of my own read .. but you know .. for all you paranoia monkeys/scum out there. Come and get some!

 

Is Jan STILL Lumping and voting to lynch Kai?

Yeah?

Cool.

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something something v o t a l Eidolonic

 

Jan, it's not so much the read (I'm in a paranoid null with Fonti as I evaluate), but it just kinda felt like you said "Guys, Fonti's town or scum acting really towny," and "Be wary in case she's scum and tries to slip a partner into the town-circle," which are both technically true, but in reality means nothing, because that's what we should all be doing with Fonti anyway given how good of a player she is.

While you then state that you think she's on the town side of things, it feels like the weight of that read has been dispersed by the first paragraph

 

Is there really only a day left until deadline?

It doesn't feel like enough has happened yet.

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Like, I'm pretty sure the top Lump candidate has no more than three votes. I don't even know who it is, or who's in the lead to be lynched. Or if we even /have/ enough votes to lynch.

What is going on.

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Hold on, I actually need to see this.

 

Atum, it's not explicit, but Jan is subtly tying Bill and Kai together here. I see where he's going with it, but not sure I see them together atm.

I want to dislike the "Bill/Kai are good for the lynch comment given Reaverb being lower on the wall, but it's hard to be outraged given Reaverb's non-presence.

 

Votal will happen in like, 8-10 hours when I get home.

If someone wants to do one, go for it, but an official one will have to wait until then, sorry!

 

Vote Count #unofficial
Bill Door (5): The Waco Kid, KaiDASH, weiyaoli, fontisian, Sesc
Jan (3): Snowvon, Delphine, tom
KaiDASH (2): Reaverb Tau, Jan
Delphine (1): mallorean_thug
mallorean_thug (1): Bill Door
weiyaoli (1): Atum

Abstaining (0):

With 13 alive, 7 is soft lynch, and 10 is hard lynch.

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Lump, the Friendly Panda Elect #unofficial
tom (2): mallorean_thug, fontisian
KaiDASH (2): Jan, Snowvon
The Waco Kid (2): The Waco Kid, Atum
Bill Door (1): Bill Door
Atum (1): tom
mallorean_thug (1): Reaverb Tau
Sesc (1): Sesc
Snowvon (1): weiyaoli

Abstaining (1): KaiDASH, Delphine

o~o~o~o~o

Hey KaiDASH Delphine Lump someone, maybe.

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Yeah, this Lump campaign is absolutely abysmal.

Rescind Lump
Lump Snowvon

Witches should choose me.

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Oh, I made a mistake; I was Lumping Sesc before, not Kai.

Everything else should be correct.