They must be seriously annoyed at all the accidental mentions. Like ten, hah

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Alright! I've discovered what makes you all confused number 7 is referring to number 3!

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Wow my last post conflicted with my first post after you've grilled me on it at least three time, trying to find evidence where there is none huh?? Cause look again Number 7 explicitly says that Number 3 isn't very valid.

 

Number 7 explicity says #3 isn't very valid?

Looks remarkably like you just added that... Let's take a closer look

That doesn't explicitly refer to anything, it could be any specific number, the read as a whole or whatever. Frankly it just sounds like you're wanting this to be considered towny to cover your play.

And no, I haven't grilled you on it 3 times, I've simply asked you to explain your reads, and your process for arriving at your reads so as to help determine your alignment. When I found you were being 1) evasive 2) contradictory 3)talking in circles, I upped the heat a bit.

But even if we ignore #3 on your list, why are 1) being defensive & 2) not posting a lot, reasons you think make someone town?

 

Hey I didn't just add that! The order of the list was 4 discussed 1, 6 discussed 2 and 7 discussed three and 8 was 4 and concluded overall!

 

It's not just me who wants to know Majube

 

Er, typo 5 discussed 1

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Soo, KaiDASH comes out of nowhere in a topic you're very interested in. Sounds planned doesn't it? Very interesting scumchats, hmm?

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Suddenly, so quiet in here. I've found scum, called it! When I update my readlist next to Waco will be Kai

 

There's a term for how you're playing: OMGUS

Off to work, night all!
Delphine your thoughts on this?

 

At that time I wasn't aware that Jarizok was new and I was considering a Waco/Jarizok/Majube potential bussing incident at the beginning of the game. That he also automatically read HF as town pinged me as suspect given(IIRC) how little HF had posted to that point, same for his scum reading Delphine.

I've mostly come around on Jarizok over the last several pages and our interactions. I'm glad to see that you're more than making up for Palindrome's neutral-at-best playing, though I'm hoping you'll catch up and play more 'in the moment' before DayEnd.

Feeling better about Waco at this point too. Miner's refusal to vote smells like classic scum avoiding votal analysis in later Days, and unlike Mal who did indeed vote for Bill when pushed, miner does not receive town points for suddenly caving.

Pretty sold on Majube being (newb!)scum after his constant circling with Waco. Too many errors, 404: town not found.



Lynch Vote Majube.

 

Just got done checking his posting history on this site to try to verify that he's not another ika alt <_<

The only posts he has made that I can actually parse are the multiple excuses for him not posting more somewhere around page 4, which was unnecessary and scummy.

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FYI I lost a big post I was almost done with a bit ago and am trying to recollect my thoughts.

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This is a pretty ew basis for such a major read of his. It sounds disingenuous to be so stuck on something that is based on more of a vague impression of how other people scumhunt than what he's specifically seen in a scumchat/what he's specifically seen work in a past game.

I don't like Prophy's catch-up style; the whole writing up questions that can be answered if you read a couple more pages thing is inefficient at best and actively trying to present "townie" thought process at worst. As far as what he does say I like how happy he sounds about his Jarizok read and his content on Waco seems pretty thoughtful.

I think fluff's evaluation of Citrus as basically stalling is fair, but I evaluate it as more likely to come from him as town. I think it most likely comes from someone that has the confidence that they can make up for it later and isn't concerned about getting iced out of an early townbloc. It reminds me of him in the last Tinyhunt (he was town).

Zenzao: I want to explain #267 further before the Day is up. Do I need to wait?

 

Delphine: Go ahead and explain it if you'd like.

 

So, you start grilling Majube in your wall in #232 and 6 posts later you dump your backwards read wall with him at the top, which for whatever reasons no one really follows up on.

I have already basically explained what bothers me about that, and what I want you to explain is:

Why did you time it for then? What were you expecting to get out of that/what didn't you get out of it that you expected? What exactly did you have prepped for if you were questioned on it?

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Convince me it was something you genuinely put thought into rather than a hoop of your towngame you needed to jump through.

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Also, I support mal's case.

unvote; vote Owner

 

So, because Waco kept asking me to clarify my posts, I'm the one who made too many errors and actually made people believe he's town instead.
I'll admit that I made one mistake in not clarifying how I ordered things up, and with (7) but :facepalm Waco came out better from this? Bah, he asks questions that were leading well easily misunderstood.

 

Thank you for your cooperation miner.

Day1 Vote owner

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Hmm, Majube , let's reset and talk about something other than waco/palindrome/ect.

What 3 posters do you feel we need to hear more from before the end of Day1? Do you have any particular topics you'd like them to weigh in on?

 

To be frank I'm surprised that no one called me out on the reverse wall too. I didn't expect to trip up the regular players, but I expected at least one of Majube/Jarizok/owner/Palindrome and maybe miner to prod me about it, and that no one has lends me toward a couple of possibilities; A. one or more are scum with an experienced player who knows my meta, B. one or more could be masons/neighbors with an experienced player who knows my meta, C. one or more of them have read at least Mimefia if not one of my other previous games to put together what I was doing and thus avoided the trap.

When Citrus asked me for my thoughts on the thread I figured it was as good a time as any to try and get something from the above mentioned five players with what should have stood out as a contradictory wall to most of what I had been saying to that point, and wait to see if I could catch them in some slip, not wholly unlike with Fonti in Mimefia.

But all of them ignoring it? Even with my brief response to Citrus on the next page that I thought some had given tells and I was feeling leans, that shouldn't have brushed off the nature of the wall entirely.

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Because your reasoning is flawed from a town perspective and lends far more likely to be scum-oriented. Trying to get a wholly straight answer from you kept leading back to you revising or hemming and hawing about what you have already said.

Also, since we're here, why didn't you say anything about me highlighting you as my number one most towniest player in my wall a while back when to that point I was scum-reading you?

 

Alright, ah I guess KaiDASH? Definitely Bill Door they were posting a lot a couple of pages back right? Citrus too, I remember them joking around about bein, and not much else. Topics, well not particularly, other then asking about their scumreads since day 1 is ending soon? Who they think are town too.

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Honestly Zenzao, I thought you just changed your mind, since I changed my opinion after you commented on it. Here's me optimistically thinking that opened your eyes to me being town. Evidently not... I can't speak for the others though.

 

(Phonepost)

Miner was in that game, as he's mentioned in this thread several times. Why is he in that group?

 

Mmmm, you don't have anything spicier to ask any of them? Try coming up with a specific question for each one, that's related to what's actually in the thread.

 

I can't remember if I already asked miner what's up with his fluff read, but I meant to.

 

Was this at me?

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Specific topics mal? Not really, no.

 

But you didn't see fit to say anything about it? To press me over any of the other positions in the list?

Like I told Majube a few pages back before Proph started participating, I tend to go months between games. I don't remember miner playing in Mimefia as my attention was mostly centered around Fonti and Newcomb, and I thought what he's been saying was a result of looking at my signature and reading through that game, thus why he brought up my signature and behavior from Mimefia before.