That's an interesting point. Citrus is probably pleased that you're naming a tell after him.

Which weak partner is she townreading now if she's scum? The only options I see are Math or Miner.

I'd go back and look at your posts but phone. If for some reason you haven't responded by the time I get to a computer then I'll just look myself.

 

But yeah, I'm kind of in this weird Twilight Zone where I've never been in a game where I so strongly disliked Von AND Font so early on in the game so I'm comfortable with getting rid of either of them because wolf Von and wolf Font both/either would beat me later on.

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I mean, I said this already, but I go into every single game ready to troll and towncircle Von and Font right away and adjust it later if I need to. I was ready to do that for this game, if you look at my early first few posts where I basically am like "okay" and sheep Von / Font's reads until the point yesterday when I actually went and read the thread from start to finish.

Like, it's just hard for me as a player to ignore it when my instincts are so strongly screaming dislike at people that I almost always like as either alignment???

 

I laid out my townreads as clearly as I can.

I know the Never Lynch thing is obnoxious, and I'll stop being so in-your-face about it.

But I'm town, and this wagon on me is yucky, opportunistic, and probably more based on me being smug and having weird townreads rather than people actually thinking I'm likely to flip mafia.

I imagine the scumteam thought they could get me lynched as some sort of achievement. But no, I haven't been mislynched on DLP since WH6(?) and I intend to keep it that way.

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If you dislike me this game more or less regardless of my alignment, that is a policy lynch.

I do not accept that from you.

 

mallorean_thug

Hm, I'm kind of confused. Are your Vaimes and Fonti reads independent of each other or related? Because you say that there's no way Vaimes is scum here unless Font is also scum, but you're really insistent on Font being scum, so how does that make Vaimes not likely to be scum at the beginning of that sentence?

I'm just trying to figure out what that read pair actually is. Need to know because I'm heavily considering the opinions of the people who I consider to be most town.

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Okay, but like, please explain to me why this is town!Von acknowledging a messy day one and shifting playstyle and not scum!Von realizing his wagon is gaining traction so holy shit better do something about it.

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And when I say "please explain to me" I'm not throwing shade I'm giving you an opportunity to potentially change my mind.

 

Are you going to take my answer at face value.

Also, I'm townread enough that my lynch would not go through, so. Was only really worried about being less of a douche and making my reads more clear than like. Batting at Typhon the Scumlord.

 

Just woke up and am currently too tired to make sense of this, could you explain it more clearly? Thanks.

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That question is open to everyone. I actually don't get what you're saying there.

 

Let's see.

1. I never top post as scum. A lot of the things I fluff about as town legitimately don't occur to me as mafia. I'm not at a level where I can fake having fun. I just active lurk instead.

2. I do not like making enemies as scum. I am more likely to do what I'm told or what is expected of me to get people to back off. I would not change my playstyle to make playing scum easier for me, because it almost never works.

3. There is zero sense of scum!panic coming from me re: my wagon. Because I am town, and very confident that I will not be lynched. I'd even bet that I won't have to be asked for a claim to get people to move.

I don't even really recall everyone who's pushing me. Typhon (scum), tom (maybe? He hasn't been voting correctly all game so who knows), Waco (always thinks I'm scummy), Jarizok (legitimately don't know what his beef is with me, I haven't really read his posts), and Miner (who smells).

That's about it.

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I don't really get it either, but I get the rest of his post, so I'm not hung up over it.

 

You really didn't say much about Typhon in that wall Vaimes. Why is he scum?

 

I'm sorry, I remembered that this is slightly incorrect. She didn't get lynched, somebody else did,and then she died to Citrus's DOB shot when she yolo shot him that night. (He was claimed DOB, saying he'd shoot her 100%, so she gambled on the world where he randomly shot somebody else and that "cleared" her because people wouldn't believe she'd actually take the shot)

 

Vaimes I hope you realize I'm not overly tempted to stop pushing you when you admit you're not reading my posts.

 

I'm saying "Font could decide to insta-townread like half the game. Who she leaves out is strategic". Like, beyond putting me in everyone else, she could have choosen to townread dlgn for how he called out typhon. That's about the same level of townread she has on Miner. She didn't though.

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Hi Jarizok, you also have font in red. Please lynch font with me instead.

 

Scarier people than you have tried.

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Cobalt, the purpose of that wall was to more clearly explain my "wonky" townreads.

I'll deal with Typhon in a bit.

 

Yeah, I guess this isn't clear. I have a stronger read on "Vaimes is only scum if font is scum" than on "fonti is scum".

Since that's the case, either I'm right about font, and we should lynch her, or I'm wrong about font so we shouldn't lynch Vaimes either.

If you disagree with my "we're not lynching Vaimes toDay" position, its with the premise "Vaimes is only scum if font is scum", not the premise "font is scum"

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You or miner.

 

I haven't rolled scum here since Trigger Happy and Three Little Pigs. I've gotten a little better.

 

Thread, is this good snark or bad snark? I'm having trouble telling because I'm too close to it, but other people should give opinions.

I'm pointing it out so nobody can claim they missed it, or address it later at a time that's more convenient to them.

 

I didn't read that as snark.

Is he not townreading you?

 

Separately, I think its telling that the counterwagon that actually gained steam to the two wagons started by Vaimes and font is the one on Vaimes and not the one on font.

That alone should make you vote font over vaimes, or consider clearing the pair.

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He's townreading me, but that's a direct reference to an exchange that happened earlier.

The sincere line is to just ask that without the reference. Adding the reference is what I can't evaluate and would like you to evaluate for me.

 

ugh you're going to make me do work

Gimme a bit, I'm almost home.

 

Yo Mal, I am indeed scumreading Font as well as Vaimes, but Font is the weakest of my 3 scumreads. I can see why you would prefer to lynch Font first, but I have that same if x scum > y most likely also scum going with Vaimes and fluff. If we put Font up front then it becomes: If Font scum > Vaimes scum. If Vaimes scum > fluff scum. That's a lot of conditionals this early in the game and a fair scumteam coming together. I mean, throw in tom and we could very well have the complete scumteam there. I don't believe it's that easy.

On the subject of Vaimes, his insistence on telling us at every possible junction that we can't lynch him and that he's not scared of us feel really forced. It's not town being unafraid of a mislynch, it's scum badly acting town that's not scared of getting lynched.

Your argument for scum!Font was pretty nice though. If Font is a better wagen than Vaimes EoD I'll hop on.

As to Cobalt, I really think he's town. Scum!Cobalt in AYAW 4 was... not like this.

 

You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying that font being scum makes Vaimes scum. I'm saying that font being town makes vaimes town.

That's . . . a pretty big difference.

Please try again on giving an excuse to not vote font.

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I'll go quote it for you.

Jarizok, after I quote it you can actually give a response instead of just falling back on cobalt meta.