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Mountainous Mafia #1

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Feb 21, 2017.

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  1. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    It wasn't related.
     
  2. owner

    owner First Year

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    That would depend on how much post game cred you want or if you are feeling naughty right now or not. Or maybe I shouldn't advise you on such matters.
     
  3. fontisian

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    I feel it's necessary for you to understand that Jan's bio in that game was very tongue in check.
     
  4. owner

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    I'll keep that in mind.
     
  5. Jan

    Jan Fourth Year

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    Scum bus when the teammate is under fire, that is how you do it well if you want credit and think a teammate might go down.

    You thinking that I might be partners with rubicon trying to tie him to you is in the top 3 of absurd things I ahve read this game.

    You do realize that 100% of the case on rubicon was made by me?
    If I was scum with him then I might do good distancing, but I would not try to burn him alive within the first 5 hours of a 72 hours day 1.

    a. I am saying he is opportunistic not optimistic, but I assume you wanted to use that word anyway.

    + rubicon at the time was not jumping around looking to see what sticks. he had an rvs vote and changed his vote once.
    He voted on me afterwards and then on Q. The only bandwagon vote there is actually the vote on Q. It does not apply to the vote on me because he was the one making the case at the time.

    B.Nothing to say. It would be somewhat clever distancing, downside is that I baiscally gave you the idea to it, which is -ev play, unless I believe you to be smart enough to see it for yourself.

    C. Tom already mentioned it. Me bussing Rubicon this early on as my partner AND trying to live for 4-5 more days or however long it takes is absurd.
    You could argue that Rubicon is town and I am scum for the push, but then all your points are mute because every single one of them hinges on the Rubicon flip.
    (point A less so, but even there if he is town you not being antialigned with him is pointless)

    Catching up in a minute, but this stuff needed reactions first.

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    Oh yeah - funfact :

    I did not write that bio and while it is not completely wrong it is still not actually representing me, just a fun thing that was written for me.

    Pretty sure fontisian can confirm that for you.
     
  6. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Unvote, vote Miner

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  7. Jan

    Jan Fourth Year

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    Part of the reason I just want him to be your partner is that 13 posts before he voted you i wrote in thread that your partner should start bussing you within the next 10 posts.

    And while 13 posts later is not on point, it would just be too perfect if he felt compelled to bus at the time, and considering his reasoning for the vote on you which is more than weak, why not?

    I just really want it to be true.

    And so far your play has not convinced me to remove you from the PoE in any way.
     
  8. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Oh right, I did.

    You should be clearer about what you're responding to.

    Nah.

    I think people have either been scumreading Rubicon, or they're just letting him get pressured, which gun to head makes me think "not very likely to be scum."

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    Let's whack Miner with a stick and see what kind of candy tumbles out.

    He hasn't made a single post with content thus far and is pretty much actively lurking. His vote on fluff is suuuuper safe, even without taking into account That Which Did Not Hapen.
     
  9. Miner

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    I'm good thanks.

    I'll just go back to concocting murderous plans for your snake.
     
  10. Jan

    Jan Fourth Year

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    While I can see that, the thing between Rubicon and me was mostly just a duel.

    His case on me is in #147.
    Short convo between him and Tom.
    My coutner is #153.
    After that it is mostly the two of us goin back forth, which is only disrupted by 1-2 one liners by tom and a blank vote on rubicon by fonti.

    Aftwards we have a more or less blank vote on Rubicon by Zenzao, fonti calling me likely town and then Quiddity going on owner.

    There is not a lot of pressure if any outside of my interaction with him at a time where barely anyone was in thread and a short accusation by fonti which she got asked to give after her blank vote.
    A lot fo other talk has been about owner and myself.

    I agree that other people have ignored the situation for the most part, but the pressure was not that big in the first place with a max of 4 votes, and Zenzaos revote fairly fast after his vote on Rubicon.

    He (zenzao) would be someone to look at, but for now he has given us promises of content in the futre that is delayed for reasons. Giving him the benfit of the doubt for now.

    I don't think your thoughts about the thread progression fits with what actually happens and therefor your conclusion is not well thought through.
    Maybe give it a quick scim again and tell me if you stand by your judgement (and give me a bit more in depth on it, if you can)

    Sure, Miner pressure is never bad. So is pressure on 5+ other people at this point.
     
  11. owner

    owner First Year

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    When you say "want him" does that make me more scum than him or what?

    Wanting is not the same as reading.
     
  12. Rubicon

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    Minor doesn't seem to care about two votes on him. Maybe we should try three.
     
  13. owner

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    Could you explain your town read on me?
     
  14. Miner

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    Meta + Vibes.

    It's a lot weaker now after fonti made her point.
     
  15. Jan

    Jan Fourth Year

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    Do you midn talking about this for a second?

    You felt the need to make this post, but I am unsure what it is about.

    Which is sad because it is so short, I would expect myself to be able to decipher it.

    Are you lost in the woods and need helpful witch to light you the way to their house of candy?
    I can do that if you promise to not have any breadcrumbs with you.

    What about this game confuses you and what are the parts that you can comprehend and what did you get out of them?

    I can accept that you will claim an inability to read me which works well with your previous refusal to read my posts (at least sometimes).
    But there is at least a little bit more to this game than that.
     
  16. Miner

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    It was referring to the you/Rubicon interaction, with a side helping of owner posts.

    I wasn't sure what I was supposed to read from that. I'm still not.

    Shrug. It'll come as the game progresses.
     
  17. owner

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    Can I hear the other 2 absurd things?

    Post-game, you can ask me to go into the self-meta related to this.

    I have a word for that WIFOM. You do make it off to sound like it's an impossible scenario though.

    yeah, opportunistic

    I feel like it would still count though.

    What's -ev mean? And what do you mean by gave the idea to me?

    Not quite right as I mentioned I could see you with Quiddity as well, but I need to reread a few things.

    what do you mean by antialigned?

    What's right about it then?

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    lol, apparently your vibes and "so called meta" on me weren't strong to begin with if one person's post can make you rethink a read that quickly.
     
  18. Jan

    Jan Fourth Year

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    Do you even read my posts?

    Like .. I am honestly done talking to you for the next 24 hours or so just because your questions seem pointless and make me doubt your sanity.

    I am voting for him.
    I made a fairly strong case on him (i think).

    I made a small case on you before that, which was mostly you playing different to what I am used by you.
    More out there early on, which is a way to look careless etc and might get you towncred.
    I don't think your normal towngame is playing that way and therefor you were (and still are a scum suspect).

    I explained all of that before, maybe even two times. Or i deleted my posts before I posted them, but I don't think that happened.

    The part where the two of you are just a good fit as a team is just this dream bonus. The dream of catching all scum within the first couple of hours without any help from someone else.
    Chances of that happening in any game? Very slim.


    I have people that I think get town points in case Rubicon flips scum.
    1. fonti for :

    possible distancing, but very unlikely.

    2. Tom for his interaction with Rubicon when Rubicon voted me and his double sheepvote right after Rubicon voted someone.

    Both Fonti and Tom only get townpoints but are not cleared for a possible rubicon scumflip.

    3. Vaimes would be clear for the way Rubicon talked about him when we had our quote fight thing.
    But clearing Vaimes is something that would happen either way if he is town.
    I managed to not care about that this game because I was somewhat busy tunneling on both you and Rubicon.


    Haven't looked further into this matter, because trying to clear people this early based on a flip we don't have feels a bit crazy.
    But those are the things I picked up without when reading the thread in the first place.
     
  19. owner

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    Yes, I read your posts. Whether or not I play devil's advocate with how you word things is another matter entirely.

    Sanity??? When did I have that? I'm pretty sure I lost it when I was in Darkest Dungeon.

    And even if you were to say that I was acting a certain way to get town read, how do you think that's going?

    oh almost forget vote miner mostly for his early town read of me then slight back pedal when fonti pointed out that I contradicted myself.

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    And I still don't know what -ev means.

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    Miner sounds like a scum trying to keep his options open, but hey what do I know?
     
  20. Miner

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    Ok.

    I don't have strong early reads the vast majority of the time.

    TBH I'd be more suspicious of me if I did have strong early reads that I just would NOT let go.

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    Oh and yes, the classic keeping my options open argument.

    Not like half the thread is doing it or anything.
     
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