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Bring Our Vashy Back!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dwitty, Jan 22, 2007.

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Should we bring him back?

  1. Bring him back, NOW!

    78 vote(s)
    67.2%
  2. Nah, things are better now.

    13 vote(s)
    11.2%
  3. Let's wait and see. Maybe he'll earn his position again ...

    25 vote(s)
    21.6%
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  1. Darius

    Darius 13/m/box

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    Actually, before anyone else bitches about the poll.

    Raven said that if the petition passed he would consider over turning the previous decision. Whether that mean anything or not, I don't know.
     
  2. Master Slytherin

    Master Slytherin Headmaster

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    1. Zev owns the site, Raven the server as far as I know.
    2. Zev lives in Sweden
    3. Could you post once without referring to the US insultingly/wanking off to Scotland?
     
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  3. Stalicon

    Stalicon High Inquisitor

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    You guys are getting off topic.... a bit, lets not make this another debate about America, focus man. Focus.

    I still haven't seen much to or for either argument so far, I also think that even if he put money into DLP it doesn't matter.

    "But, but"

    No, he put that money in here because he (asumedly) likes this place, not so he colud get god like powah. (At least, I don't think so... you never can tell.)
     
  4. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    MS please don't be mean! You're a moderator, you're not supposed to be mean to other members it could get you fired like Vash was! Please don't, we need you!
     
  5. Zevrillion

    Zevrillion Founder Retired Staff

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    Thanks MS.

    Raven owns and run the server. I own the domain at the moment.

    Can't you all cool down for a couple days? I think Raven is going change more things in the coming days.​
     
  6. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    No I can't because Vash might be sad because we all abandoned him! We can't be mean like that if so many people don't agree on it, I don't know whether to listen to the administativators or the community because both are being so loud right now that we can hardly here but we need to resolve it or it'll get worse!!
     
  7. Xanatos

    Xanatos Professor

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    Heres my two pence,

    First off! Lets not get into a whole legal argument over this, its retarded, we're a small fanfiction board, so lets not get over our heads.

    I personally think Vash has done a fine job and would like to see him reinstated, he kept people in line and I cannot think of a time I've thought 'He's abusing his power'.

    But if Vash is done with it, I hope he stays and posts on the board, he provides many laughs......(and alot of smut)

    p.s Scotland Rulez!111:D1!!1
     
  8. Lord Ravenclaw

    Lord Ravenclaw DLP Overlord Admin DLP Supporter

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    Zev owns the domain, and he founded DLP. I consider him the true owner of DLP, even though I pay for and operate the server which DLP is hosted upon.

    About freedom of speech...it doesn't apply. On here, you agreed to sign away that right simply by registering and checking "Agree." The administration can edit, delete, move, or whatever your post. Granted, we're not likely to often infringe upon the freedom of speech as long as it stays civil and halfway decent. Either way, there probably isn't the court in the United States that would charge me for preventing discussion I found unfit for the forum.

    As for Vash and Sera. I will consider giving both of them a second chance, however this is not dictated by the members. The petition and outcry about both of them has shown a general consensus that the members would prefer them in power. Now, the reasons for removing them (which I will not name) were valid. My action of removing them was not. I failed to give them a chance to improve their behavior for the reasons that shall not be mentioned. This is why I will consider reinstating them for a second chance.
     
  9. Antivash

    Antivash Until we meet again... DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I'm quite ready to have it all dropped as it is. I would feel no sadness or any sense of abandonment.

    Meh, its prolly a blessing that I was removed. Frees me of any responsibility and I had been considering leaving anyway, long before this happened.

    PS: SCOTLAND SUCKS!

    That was just plain mean, Sparrow. We are above such pettiness!

    One: Why would I want to buy what I was given freely when I joined?

    Two: True, I did freely give money to Raven for the license for vB. A whole whooping $70. Nothing to get in a titfight over, certainly. I did it because, then, I did like the site. Lately, its been a chore to be here. Would i do it again anytime soon, demotion or not? No.

    The site isnt worth it any longer. The founding principles have changed and while that isnt all bad, a lot of the members have changed as well or have simply vanished. Its less about the enjoyment and more about personal politics. Im not innocent of it, by any means, and never claimed other wise, but my stance has always been for the old DLP when we didnt take shit from idiot posters.

    Now? Now we are supposed to show sensitivity and guide these poor misguided souls to enlightenment. Fuck that. Threat of demotion, continued demotion, or whatever, I am who I am, and I believe what I believe. Im not simply going to have a different attitude because Im not an admin anymore. Im still going to horribly bash idiots that need it. Ill still drag DLP's name through the dirt with my horrid attitude, if that's what Raven really thinks i was doing.

    Whatever, Friday I'll know for sure what I am doing. Whether I stay or not, is yet to be seen. Those of you I communicate with regularly, I enjoy our time very dearly. But the site just doesnt have the same flair anymore.
     
  10. Mage

    Mage Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    While I'm not on nearly as much as other memeber i do find most of Vash's posts amusing. I dont really care if hes an admin or not, however if the demotion is the reason he leaves then i do believe that will suck. So i say give him another chance.
     
  11. madeyemoody

    madeyemoody High Inquisitor

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    I personally dont. give. a. fuck. either way

    if they stay mods "whoopie"

    if they're demoted "whoopie"

    as long as they are still members I'm happy

    madeyemoody
     
  12. Big Z

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    Agreed. Vash's posts and his IRC chats are quite amusing though potential for it being seen out of context is there. Vash's posts, for me anyway, are a great example of what is wrong with all this hype about political correctness. His posts are not politically correct, far from it in fact. But that's what makes Vash uh... Vash. He takes this common theme of the need to be politically correct and basically tells us where to shove it.

    I really believe that those who disagree with Vash's words are either:
    A) Taking it out of context and being offended
    B) Advocate political correctness and mincing of words
    C) Have a hidden agenda and want to make an example of vash

    Of course this is also my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just feel that Vash deserves another chance and this hostile attitude toward Vash will eventually drive him to leave the site as a whole, a great loss to the DLP community.
     
  13. Swimdraconian

    Swimdraconian Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    Such are the consequences of growing older...and bigger. There's a quote that says something about a reacceding hairline and an exceeding beltline... Well, it seemed to fit at the time.

    Vash if you're thinking about leaving, I beg you to reconsider. Even something as inane as insulting a newcomer for doing stupid things is what keeps this site from becoming watered-down, so to speak.
     
  14. japanese_jew

    japanese_jew High Inquisitor

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    lolz, vash leave?!? NoooOOOoo.

    How can you complain about asslickers? It's you whoreshipers of Vash who are the biggest hypocrites of all. From what I could discern, Vash was considering leaving anyway. You don't give someone admin status just to keep them on-board. If they're considering leaving, then I suspect that they aren't involved enough to really be a good admin anyway.
     
  15. Manatheron

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    Hey, as an Idiot poster I take offense to that ;)

    Seriously though, I hope that's one aspect that doesn't change. I've been a member for what? A little under a month now? I make a stupid post, I get a little singed, I learn a lesson (Or not) and I move on.

    The thread is pointless by now for a very simple reason. As Vash has said numerous times, he doesn't mind being demoted... I hope ya stay Vash, There are seem to be Very few people willing to speak their minds anywhere on the net anymore, But if you go then God Speed :)

    I not only refuse to vote, but I call for a lock on the thread.
     
  16. Giovanni

    Giovanni God of Scotch

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    *sighs*

    This is what happens when you tell the UN to go away.
     
  17. Erotic Adventures of S

    Erotic Adventures of S Denarii Host

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    Most people realize that. This is more about why it happened and the way it did.
     
  18. Litha Riddle

    Litha Riddle Banned DLP Supporter

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    I agree with you 100%. For someone who has given up free time to maintain a site, then get so casually dissmissed without even a warning is low.

    As for this comment, as far as I can see Vash and Sera were demoted because some members threatened to leave. Now pardon me for being blunt but, isn't that a tad hypocritical.

    I'd rather those few leave, than have the site threatened by blackmail.
    Whatever results from this thread, I hope Sera and Vash will continue to be part of DLP.

    Litha
     
  19. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Edited to reflect how I feel, and it's not directed to two certain people.



    Kindly let the door hit you in the ass , you're not forced to post here.



    To everyone else. Knock off the goddamned bickering and act like you have an ounce of sense. Telling Raven you love Vash and omfg!1! <insert stupid ass rant here> doesn't mean anything. It's his and Zev's board. We just play with the swingset.
     
  20. Avitus

    Avitus Groundskeeper

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    I heartily agree. I have nothing against Vash, but the decision is entirely up to Raven and Zev, this thread completely undermines their authority - it's pointless.
     
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