Unvote.

My bad.

 

Like literally any other investigation and we'd have mass-clearances.

Jari pretty much can never lie there safely unless scum have Spiritualist as well since that can prove him as lying but Owners reaction towards lying down to the lynch pretty much made him as close to confimed scum as there can be. I also don't think Jaris mafia? But I really need to go back and look at him because that post that Newcomb quoted is questionable for Jari with the claim.

 

Unvote

/10char

 

Is there any upside to mass-claiming here?

Mafia know where Watcherman/Oracle/Gravedigger/Priest/Acolyte/Inquistor is already, like they've got their night kills decided on. Surely it only benefits us while giving us a better idea of what abilities mafia might have?

 

Unvote

I don't think eidolonic would like that previous color very much.

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Can it be as easy as fonti/rubicon/waco/koalas?

 

Like the only roles that haven't claimed are Apprentice/Peeping Tom/Spiritualist/Survivalist/Gambler/Benevolent Old Dame/Nurse/Judge/Hunter/Dirty Old Bastard/Loose Cannon/Assassin, mafia are pretty much never shooting into that pool over Priest/Acolyte etc.

Also nurse using their extra life on Delphine isn't a terrible idea too.

I had a few of those players as unaligned together, so probably not?

 

Which ones?

 

Also @Kai - Can you run through the Fable inquisitor selection choice please.

Don't think Koalas/Waco work together especially based around their push onto each other here, there's scum need to attempt to extent the lynch pool, not fight to kill each other. Also remember having something that pointed against Rubicon/Waco. Think there's a decent chance we're missing one.

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Also @Kai / Anyone more familiar with the setup is there any downside to mass-claim here? Scum pretty much have their next few nights kills already decided and having a good idea whether town/scum players are holding the KP means we can organise a better way of winning this. There's a few specific plans we can orchestrate but I'd rather not mention them exactly until mass-claim has been finalised since I don't want to give mafia an idea on how to deal with it.

 

So, this happened. I'll leave people to figure shit out, but what's become clear from this is

Vote: Koalas

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Vote: Koalas

 

Also we're not in a bad position today where if we mslynch here it'll be 2 townie inside the angel/demon chat and 1 scum meaning they can protect the priest giving us another nights investigation; to stop that from happening again mafia have to waste the haunt there likely giving us a 'guilties are confirmed guilty' night and if we hit scum we go to a 11-3 type situation with plenty of clears and interaction analysis to win the game with.

Pretty much despite the horrendous night choice last night we're still probably in a very favourable position right now; how far ahead we are does depend on the amount of KP mafia have inside their roles though.

 

Jarizok isn't town by necessity in this spot.

Owner was almost certainly a witch and he couldn't realistically claim otherwise.

 

Alright; I'm heading to bed, if Kai/others agree with mass-claim being the move here I'll claim when I wake up before I head to work.

Also I think I've almost certainly lost to Newcomb now, think my only come-back chance is if Vaimes is scum here. Just realised another Fable softclaim was the "Newcombs won I think" when I locked Fluff in as a guess for our challenge too.

 

Sometimes I'm just amazing.

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I don't know if we should mass claim right now, there are a few things that aren't known at this time that could be important.

Nurse shouldn't proc yet either.

I'm going to sleep then work so don't do anything that can't be undone before I can actually do stuff again (please... obviously).

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We probably want DOB to claim here.

Assassin and LC less relevant since we have no counterplay to them anyway.

Anyway bye.

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BTW nobody coach angels, Jan knows what to do.

 

Vote:Fontisian

Cuz I'm dope and I have dope reads.

 

Bluh.

You know jari can be town and Reg a witch, yeah. It's cobalt/Reg that are aligned.

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Though if Reg was scum, Owner definitely would have haunted him, so it's fine.

I don't think fluff claiming was necessary and this was stupid.

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Reg, thoughts on this, please.

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Oh, duh, thought there wasn't an aco.

 

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Just going to hash this out for my own ease of thinking.

Barring CC (doubtful), Fable/Fluff confirmed town.

If Delphine is town, Miner is town. If Delphine is a witch, Miner is ??? (almost 100% a witch).

If Cobalt is town, Reg is town. If Cobalt is a witch, Reg is ???. (Probably a witch)

If Jarizok is town, Owner was a witch. If Jarizok is a witch, Owner is ??? (probably still a witch). At least one confirmed between Owner/Jarizok.

That it?

 

That is the game state.

 

I feel like you can factor Kai in there as well.

 

Let's play the "do we think witches would do x" game.

Do we think the witches knew Fluff was possibly the priest? I'm going to say, yes, because Rubicon and Kai both voted and at least one of them is probably a witch.

Do we think they then shared this information to the other witches?

Do we then see Witch!Jari putting two soon to be clear people in his top three scum reads?

I'ma say no.

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Fluff's dead anyway, so there's no point in intentionally lynching a townier person today, heh.

Kai's probably(?) town for softing the inquisitor check.

So we'll kill Kalas and Rubicon, then probably Waco. That leaves like Newcomb, Kai, Atum, Vira and Jari for the last one. Assuming Kalas is mafia (because he is, come on), Vira is clear. Kai's the inquis thing. Jari's got the reads things. Newcomb still p. town.

Hi Atum, what's up?

 

How?

There's potentially something you can infer with the timing of his soft (that completely went over my head, apparently), but mechanically, if he's town, what? If he's a witch, what?