So you think Jarizok is less of a witch for WITHHOLDING Fonti's cards? lmao

You're his partner. Enough. Just concede pls.

 

Okay, so 1) you're putting words in my mouth, 2) if something is a witch claim then I'm not going to do it as a witch because I like not losing, 3) I've conceded in much less dire circumstances, 4) you're being annoying, so back off. Regardless of alignment, you will never ever ever get a person to scumclaim, unless you want them to troll you.

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Like you trying to rush us to endgame under the guise of "oh no I have a game on Monday" is making me paranoid. I'm in that game too, I work long hours too, and you don't see me trying to rush everything.

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My point is that Delphine/Miner can be scum together and Jarizok can be town if Miner used his hunter shot to snipe fluff. That makes the whole "three dead witches confirmed" thing a lot less certain, which means there's an unknown witch running around.

I am voicing this now so that I can be reassured this scenario is mechanically impossible.

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Like I don't know if you were around for WH6 but uh, I've started taking "mechanically one hundred percent confirmed witch" checks with a huge grain of salt.

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Sorry, it was WH5. Man I can't keep them straight.

Anyway yeah witches faked a ~confirmed~ redcheck on me and I'm still very, very salty about it, so.

Let's talk things out.

 

If Delphine/Miner are scum, Jari is town. Jari flipped Owner, Kalas, and Rubicon scum, so if Delphine/Miner were scum, there could not have been another member unless you believe Delphine the scum Judge saved town Miner over her own teammate.

 

[colro=red]lynch jarizok[/color]

Vira's right.

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rip typo.

lynch jarizok

 

colro

Vote Jarizok

 

Regfan

hammer pls

 

What on earth was Jarizok's plan yesterDay? His choices were concede, or get town to lynch Miner and then immediately get lynched next. I don't get it.

 

He has a partner and needed to stall. It's you.

 

blah blah blah

 

unvote

We could lynch both vaimes and cobalt, then jarizok.

 

Yeahhh, I'd rather be leeroy'd if it came to that.

I don't get mislynched anymore.

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Also if I had to choose between killing Jarizok or killing Cobalt, I'd kill Jarizok a thousand times. Even if Cobalt's push on me feels slimy.

 

Well, Jarizok is confirmed scum at this point.

So there has to be his buddy in you / vira / cobalt.

 

Then we lynch Cobalt, because 1) I think we're screwed if it's Vira, 2) he's the only one in the PoE pushing an agenda, and 3) http://game.fantasystrike.com/forum...me-thread-game-over.11347/page-57#post-431677

 

That was the the earliest I've been killed by witches in a long time.

What a great game.

 

You're welcome.

 

I mean, I guess it wasn't really that great overall but getting killed early by witches is always nice.

Also it gave us the extra witch role rule in postgame (thanks ericf).

 

Why.

/10chars

 

Prevents the last witch in Jarizok+1 worlds from using last stand, since we'll kill them before Jarizok.

 

Do want to apologise to Delphine and to a lesser extent Miner given its confirmed they're both town and I'm a large part of us ending up spending three lynches between them; certainly something I'm ready to face the music about when the game ends.

Pretty worried that lynching Jarizok here doesn't end the game and we are indeed dealing with a +1 world which doesn't put us in the best of situations, in a world where Jarizok is alone the game would have been over by this stage I'd think. We should be all taking today a little slower and evaluating the possible worlds a little more just in case the game doesnt' end on Jarizoks lynch here.

Game not ending upon Jarizoks death means that both Waco and Fontisian were town and leaves us in only four possible worlds;

1) Jarizok/Vira
2) Jarizok/Vaimes
3) Jarizok/Kai
4) Jarizok/Cobalt

I plan on rereading and leaving some thoughts behind on these worlds in case I die tonight, most specifically want to look at the viability of Jarizok/Vira as well as look into Jarizok/Cobalt & Jarizok/Vaimes some more given I've not really given either much consideration thus far this game.

I'm also...not entirely sure if it's even best for me to leave 'hard town reads' behind here given it just gives mafia information how to best make their night kills. It's probable we're going to be relying on some angel saves to win this game.

Either way I think just reading and trying to work out who's actually scum is the play right now. I'm preeeeeeeetty hungover so likely won't get around to it till tonight.

 

It's things like this that make me not want to listen to you.

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I'm town.

Kai won't be allowed to survive F3.

I really don't think Vira was coached into faking multiple townslips, or that she randomly decided to add that to her scum meta.

I will be lynching Cobalt if Jarizok's death doesn't end the game. But I'm not gonna be an annoying clown and goad him into scumclaiming.