I made a post stating this yesterday, it's still not stronger than the Miner case.

 

But one of the only reasons I'm not totally convinced with the wolf!Reg argument is that he did wind up on cobalt in the end. I think he could have lynched pein with minimal blowback if he really wanted to considering he could have easily passed it off as the "safe" option.

 

Like if Miner is scum with Cobalt, then Cobalt is passing off accountability for that potential wagon to me/dC/Reg, which makes much more sense if Miner is town.

"Oops we mislynched Miner but I just followed Vaimes/dC/Reg it's not my fault!"

 

Yeah, no. I'm done live posting when I read shit like this. I'll make a big post when I get home on what you should be doing tomorrow/day after but I'm not going to waste time interacting while at work when it's falling on pretty deaf ears.

 

Hey Reg, who's the last mafia?

Because I think defending yourself and harping on about Miner makes it a lot easier for you not to find his partner.

Kind of like what Cobalt was doing all of Day 1.

 

Still doesn't change the fact you're getting agitated with me despite the fact you've been pushing me all game when my reads (unlike yours) have actually been correct.

 

Another point about Reg: He just doesn't seem town angry. In his position, I'd be mildly annoyed at best about being lynched because I think I have the game solved with a lynch to spare. In that situation, I'm happy to eat noose to prove that my gamestate analysis is town-sided because then if it's followed I win. It wouldn't matter to me that my work isn't making me townread, because that isn't the POINT of my work. The point of my work is to catch scum, and it actually does that BETTER if I flip. tl;dr people who feel like they deserve a townread and get annoyed when they don't get one are usually either new or scum, and Reg isn't new.

Like. I can't get over this constant "anyone who reads my posts should see it's obvious that I'm gamesolving!" thing. That's not a thing town says. That's a thing scum who've done a very good job of appearing to gamesolve and are annoyed they're not getting a pass say.

Also, I've noticed he hasn't quoted ANY of my posts. I kinda speculate this is because my arguments aren't ones he can angrily dismiss by pointing to his previous play, so there's no point engaging with them. He'd rather engage with stuff he can successfully and unambiguously refute. Like, check his posts today. Not a single one of them is quoting me. Feels at odds with the level of irritation he's displaying.

RE: Miner, yeah I'll townread him if only because I've been scumreading him all game so he's probably town. ._.

 

Either Blab or DC, more probably Blab but there's a specific issue with DC's progression today that I need time to step back and look at, it kind of feels like his change from "Reg is town" to "Here's reasons why Reg might not be town" came too quickly as in both segments of posts were planned and he'd posted them too quickly together. Hard to explain properly and not something I'd push until I assess it properly.

When you're posting shit like "Oh he did nothing D2 but focus on me" when I've made every effort possible to not focus on you it's a real kick in the balls. And the whole "your reads have been bad" is pretty stupid in that a) I came around to Waco pretty quickly, b) I dropped my Zenzao down read instantly D2 because I'd done some reread and didn't like my reasoning behind it or feel confident enough in it and c) I didn't have Cobalt in my town core yesterday at all and he's been gradually moving down in my reads throughout the game with the exception of trusting others "Zenzao/Cobalt = not a thing" when I hadn't got around to ISO'ing Cobalt yet.

 

Fun fact: Reg was Cobalt's #1 townread, yet completely ignored Reg's vote on him.

Cobalt specifically pleaded with me and dC to unvote, but not Reg.

This probably means something.

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Okay, so put your money where your mouth is and compromise on another wagon that's very likely mafia.

No one is going to follow your Miner case because you are suspect.

 

EBWOP: Oh yeah also read decay on me IS consistent with "whoops, I need another mislynch". Why me over whichever of Stanari or Blab is town I don't know, but shrug.

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Oh huh, now we're commenting on my progression. Honestly you have a point there: I was halfway through writing #2675 when I realized "hang on. Scum knew Kai was secretly a PR + Scum made a PR claim + Reg defended the PR claim on the grounds that some town power was mysteriously missing = !!!"

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(That broke the towntunnel I had on you, at which point I went back over yesterday and found some not great things)

 

Everyone needs to swear to me that if we don't lynch Reg toDay and I die, you're not gonna let him skip off to endgame.

 

Oh, actually, maybe because having exactly {Blab/Stanari}/Miner as the only mislynches felt insecure. A fear which would be borne out now given Miner has suddenly collected a townread!

 

Vaimes --- Yeah, sold. As a bonus, I'm pretty much guaranteed to be there with him because if he IS scum then I'm part of his mislynch pool.

 

Like yeah he talks a lot and his words are very pretty and organized, but he has absolutely 0 problem replicating that as scum, so don't use it as a reason to lynch elsewhere.

 

I've not commented on your posts because I need to read them when I'm not in a "work for 5 minutes, read and post for 1 minute" type situation. Really need to look at the progression in general, and my decay on my town read on you is because a) Part of my reasoning behind town reading you was under the impression that scum had daytalk and your absence from the thread would be hard to fathom there, without it it's less of a thing and b) I found myself pretty uh, weirded out by lots of your posting yesterday? I think I mentioned this several times too then. It's less of a scum read and more of a "I need to focus and actually spend time rereading him", I had Fontisian in the same section.

 

Just running everything through who could even be a wolf with Reg?

Reg/Miner (not a thing)

Reg/Vaimes (Vaimes is lock clear so no)

Reg/Pein (LOL)

Reg/dC (I don't think anything really prevented this from being a thing but it really doesn't seem like from what I've seen so far just from reading today. Plus it would mean we were actually kind of getting rolled until cobalt self-destructed so very unlikely IMO)

Reg/Stanari (This just seems weird and Stanari is spewed by liek both Zen and Cobalt)

Reg/Blab (Reg was calling blab the person most likely to be with miner yesterday but considering he's set on lynching miner first that could just be distancing that would have flipped on if/when miner flipped villager)

So yeah blab is like literally the only person I could see being with Reg.

 

Cool, let's lynch them both.

Does anyone think they're both town?

 

Yeah, doesn't work that way "I scum read you so we're going to let really obvious mafia go unnoticed". I'll respond to your wall/points about him and several of the things you're "ruling him out" for when I get home. I'll mention that I actually said Miner/Cobalt wasn't W/W very early in the game because I didn't think that Cobalt would not realise that Adult was Miner but then had a discussion where he pointed out that a) Adults SIG shows that Adult = Miner, b) Adult claimed he was Miner in multiple posts and c) Adults avatar is obviously Miners avatar that he had throughout all of WH8 where they both were in the game for a long period of time making that claim from him pretty likely distancing if they're scum together and rather hard to believe.

 

So what you're saying is that Cobalt made that derp on purpose and...thought nobody would notice?

 

Also again, what the fuck is my motivation behind anything I've done this game as scum?

Like ignore my D1 reads list which I dropped majority of going into D2 because I didn't like how several players in there played the EOD and look at the people that I've actually been hard defending from D2 onward (Fontisian/Stanari etc.) and you'll notice they're all fucking town; I don't close myself off to mslynches as mafia.I'll make you a wall on reasons you should really know I'm town at this stage when I get home if you promise to read it.

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I'm saying he did it intentionally to have people rule him/Miner as out as partners. Yes?

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Jarizok pointed this out ftr? And when he did Cobalt & Miner started hard pushing him.

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Like I fucking pointed this shit out in my wall on Miner, but nope. No one reads.