Meh, I didn't like the Kushina as a Jinchuuriki thing, but at least it makes sense as to why she would be brought to konoha in the first place (and accepted).

 

Is it just me or was that the body of the Sage of the six paths that the one brother supposedly inherited?

This is just continuing my pet theory that the Uchila and Senju are not the descendants of the brothers. I am thinking they are just two clans that supported the opposing sides who continued the rivalry of the brothers after they lost track of the two bloodlines. Poor Madara, he can never be the King of Gondor.

I wonder if the kyuubi jinchuuriki has to have that special chakra in order for the sealing to work. That would reaffirm the idea that only Naruto could be its container since it has become clear that jinchuuriki do not have to be a newborn for the sealing.

 

I think only Naruto had to be a newborn because of the Fourth's different kind of seal but whatever. That was probably retconned away years ago.

 

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/89152425/13

With his body covered in seals and the absorption of the Kyubbi's chakra, I am reminded of Kraken's Ghost's Foxhound...

 

Huh, for some reason I thought that Naruto was the first jinchuuriki of the Kyuubi. Fanon or canon? This kind of sucks how they keep making Kyuubi so weak, as it also makes Minato look weaker. :/

 

Everyone thought that Naruto most probably was the first jinchuuriki of Kyuubi. Well, almost everyone. The idea of somebody else housing Kyuubi before Naruto is extremely rarely used in fanon too.

Let's face it, Bijuu are now lackluster compared to S-rank ninjas. Heck, they're basically recycling power batteries now. Since Kishimoto has been shoving it down our throats that Naruto has surpassed Minato and Jiraiya... And Naruto would probably have lost, if not for Kushina.

 

There is no Naruto this week.

 

Exactly, nothing of Kyuubi's past was told, and nowhere was it mentioned that it might have had a jinchuuriki before. Most people tend to presume that Naruto was the first, then.

Can't find the chapter anywhere yet. Since it's the 500th chapter, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a special release, which is taking time to scanlate.

Edit: No Naruto this week? Source?

~Oh, page 17 of chapter 499.

 

Chapter 500 out on Mangastream.


Now, idk if Kishi has confirmed Obito's death as an absolute, but perhaps this chapter provided more evidence that may support the Obito!Mandara theory.

Spoiler

On the last page, we get a view of masked-Mandara's skin, for (maybe?) the first time, and frankly, it looks young. If this is the real Mandara, we would expect something similar to how Tsunade's skins looks when her genjustu wears off.

Perhaps this also lends more support for that body in that 'certain coffin' being the actual Mandara.

 

This is the best way to use a milestone chapter.

 

No surprise to get confirmation that Naruto has a blood relation to the Senju clan.

The Third Hokage's whole plan to keep Naruto's jinchuriki status as secret as possible makes a tiny bit more sense now, since it appears that the policy worked reasonably well with Kushina.

However, the prominence added to the Uzumaki clan makes Naruto's status more than a little problematic. Considering the fact that there were two Uzumakis before Naruto, both of whom were wives of the Hokage, why was that never mentioned before now? (I know the answer is probably because Kishimoto made up the background on the Uzumaki clan pretty recently and without thinking back and considering all the Fridge Logic issues it creates).

Also, if Kushina was properly married to Minato, and her pregnancy was not a secret (although the precautions needed to deal with a pregnant jinchuriki were), how did everyone not know Naruto was the Fourth Hokage's son?

 

For fucks sake, it's MADARA, not Mandara or Madarna, but MADARA!

Sorry, but things like that get annoying after awhile.

Problem is with the Obito theory is Obito's body was crushed under a large amount of stone

So while not impossible, it is unlikely Madara would go through the trouble of rebuilding a body 95% crushed.

Also, isn't Madara at least around 10 years older then Obito? This fact makes it impossible for Obito to be Madara.

Tbh, this chapter did confirm Sealing ran in Naruto's blood, just not from the Namikaze, along with the Kyuubi being Konoha's biju...

But honestly, it seems really unlikely that being the Jinchurriki of the Kyuubi ran in Naruto's blood.

Along with the revelation of Naruto being related to the Senju which is undoubtedly giving several fanfiction writers wet dreams, it is slowly stripping Naruto of his uniqueness.

The fact he now is related to the Senju, and that he literally has being the Kyuubi jinchurriki running in his blood, and along with having an uber ninja lineage ruins the fact that what made Naruto even more impressive was the fact that he didn't come from an extremely powerful clan, and that he didn't have any inborn advantages coming from his family. (the "body" of the Rikudou Sennin) Though, this does potentially explain the origins of Kushina's special Chakra.

Also, if Konoha already had Jinchurriki's of the Kyuubi, why was Naruto treated as poorly as he was? I mean really, the former Jinchurriki's were related to the Senju's, were apart of a powerful clan, and wives of TWO Hokages.

It just seems like a plot hole to me. But, I might be wrong. It probable has to do with the Kyuubi destroying Konoha, and killing the Yondaime. But, I digress.

My apologies if my post is incorrect, messy, ect. 2 in the morning, so I am not exactly at the top of my game, sorry.

 

This. I don't think Kishimoto really thought this through.

Anyway I loved Madara's ending line and found it interesting that Naruto was born with his whisker marks.

 

Well considering Kushina had the Kyuubi inside her when giving birth to Naruto, it is reasonable that some traits from the fox passed on to Naruto, because chakra from the seal was transfered toward child birth, right?

 

I would like to offer potential answers/ripostes, if you don't mind.

1. Agreed on the Madara thing. It does get annoying after a while.

2. I'm calling Quirellmort on Obito. Seriously, if Kishi decides to make it so that Madara's fucking spirit is possessing Obito, I wouldn't be surprised at this point.

3. Dude? Madara was about as old as the First Hokage >.>

4. I'm actually quite pleased with that turnaround. More props to the Uzumaki.

5. From what I gather, having the special chakra needed to contain the Nine Tails was pretty much a Russian roulette of genetics that was kept strictly within the Uzumaki clan. Anyone could get it, but the odds do allow for direct inheritance down a particular bloodline. Considering Naruto is now technically the last Uzumaki (that we know of), Konoha is kind of screwed if it needs a replacement in case Naruto bites it.

6. Uzumaki-Senju relations = DO NOT WANT. Like you said, it ruins the whole "from rags to riches through sheer willpower" motif that embodied Naruto's character. However, I can admit that it does have the romanticist element of a pauper prince rediscovering his heritage (ala Anastasia).

7. Potential Reasons for this Contradiction:

a) Kishi didn't think this through.

b) The people of Konoha have the collective long term memory of an amnesiac.

c) Kishi really didn't think this through.

d) the people of Konoha are dicks.

e) Kishi really should have read what he's already published before pulling this on his audience.

 

Meh, I wasn't sure of Madara's age, so I just threw out a random number that would get my point across.

I did like the sealing aspect of the Uzumaki, I just didn't like the Senju revelation along with other countries being afraid of Uzu.

 

Grandpa Uzumaki from the clan spread needs to be written into a story.

Longevity ftw!

 

Huh, who'd think that it was because of Mikoto that it was suspected that the Uchiha clan had a hand in the Kyuubi being released.

I always thought that Madara being involved was not enough for Sarutobi and others to suspect the clan, knowing that he did not depart on good terms with his kin. But, if the only person not authorized to know about the birth was the wife of the Head of the Uchiha Clan, I could see why they would be suspicious.

Isn't it ironic that from the start to the end that it was Sasuke's family who were culpable in the downfall of their own Clan?

Mikoto got the Village suspicious, Fugaku was leading the clan to treason, Itachi carried out the Massacre, and Sasuke pissed all over any remaining goodwill towards his clan.

Mikoto and Itachi were tragic figures but Fugaku and Sasuke were just douches.

 

Personally, I still want to know what the hell happened to Uzu and the rest of the Uzamaki, because I don't think we have gotten any answers in that regard.

Necrule, you have a good point. I didn't think of that.