I'm beginning to understand why non-DLP people hate this place.

Apparently, all you need to do to get townread is have the same reads as everyone else and never have any unique opinions or thoughts ever.

Zzz.
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It literally feels like nobody's reading what I'm actually posting because you've all already decided I'm a wolf and don't care.

 

Fuck this draft auto-save system, it's so freaking annoying for multi-tab quoting.

I spoilered the full iso from when Beruru left, but PLEASE actually read through it so Beruru's iso context is at least present-at-hand.

Spoiler

Final post you made before V/LA or IRL etc.

Returning from being gone. Summarizes as you noticed you have a large wagon on you, you want to read NH/Kai more in-depth

Post defending yourself to Eidolonic.

Meta!town-read on Nego.

Post defending yourself to Newcomb.

Town-reading Kai and initiating a focus on me. Notably, nothing concrete whatsoever on Kai beyond just calling him town?

Reasoning for town-reading kai when prompted (pretty sparse/hand-wavey)

Further explanation on Kai.

Responding to Nego.

Responding to Nego.

And the vote on me.

Let's see what we find.

So first-off, it's clearly directly implied Beruru is totally caught up by means of responding to people in real-time and the longer post when they place their vote on me.

Secondly, they make a mention to specifically look at NH and Kai. This proceeded as thus:

1) Kai - hand-waves him as town. Prompted twice on the read, first time states "because he doesn't care how people read him" which is pretty hand-wavey, second time states that he started making actual posts after the meme ones. ??? on this because that already occurred D1 and I think the tone shifts by Beruru due to this are inconsistent.
2) NH - nothing. Didn't look at NH at all that I can see on the iso, even though specifically states they wanted to look at NH.

Thirdly, catch-up is super duper shallow. Consists of a few reads thrown out without any reasoning given (and subsequent reasoning is given AFTER being prompted). I suspect these reads were thrown out to look busy rather than actual game-solving. Key reason because they have done nothing with the reads they've developed (beyond shallow interactions with them - see fourth section). Like seriously, they throw out those reads, which are stated apparently pretty strongly "Kai is town." etc. And then does absolutely nothing with them. I feel vibes of look-busy, not vibes of figure-out-game.

Fourthly, what potentially appears to be attempts to shallowly interact and/or buddy with the players they need to join a counter-wagon to stave off their own wagon. See: iso posts above regarding Nego and posts above regarding Stanari.

Fifth, voting me with a main crux argument of my exchange with Nego D1. Yes, reread that sentence. Beruru has a corresponding strong scum-read on me, because of my exchange with Nego. On. Day. One. And this isn't a subtle/secret exchange that they found on a long reread. This is an exchange that has been discussed to great extent already in the game-thread. Where on earth did this quote reference come from then? Did they decide to reread the entire game-thread and stopped when they saw this post? Why did they not notice this post earlier, if it pings them so strongly? Like anytime during D1, or anytime before they popped out for D2? Did they find absolutely nothing useful from D2 for building a scum-read on, for me or anyone else? And yet had time to find something conveniently right at the start of D1/already discussed as something to use as a justification?

Beruru was searching for a way to justify voting me as a counter-wagon to themself, and I can't see any reason why their reasoning would magically coalesce at the end of D2 except to attempt a mislynch. Fake-reasoning, fake-vote, real-attempt to not be the first scum to be lynched.
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@Beruru

The above post is addressed to you as well as everyone else, I think my PoV swapped sometime during writing it. Addressing the second, third, and fifth point in particular would be very much appreciated/useful

 

Beru, it feels like you aren't trying to solve at all. You asked me to talk about my Citrus read and Citrus has been posting, but you haven't reacted to either of those things, even just to dismiss them.

 

I'm definitely reading what you're posting and I care, reference: see above post.
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Above post as in my big post, not fontisian's ninja post

 

That Citrus post on Beru wudda been so much more convincing if it had come from someone not-Citrus.

Not cause you’re you or anything Citrus. Just counterwagon/PoE wise of course =]

 

@Beruru, if you have time, could you talk about your read on me?

 

I didn't have time to ISO Smiles because it was 2:30 AM and I had to wake up in 6 hours, and this morning I didn't have time because I overslept because I was up until 2:30 AM playing mafia and only had 30 min to get ready.

I think that you think I've had way more time to do things and see things than I actually have.

I spent the last hour in a bathroom when I should have been on a train because I was playing this game instead of doing actual things I should be doing IRL that are actually important.

Go away.

 

Anyways, Ima sleep.

Go town

 

I think you're town.

I think you're wrong about some things, and your Citrus read doesn't make sense to me.

But I think you're town.

 

If I was Ara I wouldn’t have forgotten the crucial !!! to properly convey my hype =[

Nitenite!!!

 

Ok.

What part of the read doesn't make sense?

 

Hi Beru talk to me I'm listening.

 

You know, just saying Beruru. I'm trying pretty hard to be civil. I think you're toe-ing the line of rudeness. IRL is 100% a higher priority than the game itself. I had my own long-stint of V/LA which actually meant time away during EoD1.

You just said noone cares what you say. I just said hey I do, here are some thoughts on what you said which I think are indicative of alignment as scum. And your response is A) you proceeding to complain that you have less time than me and B) telling me to go away?

I'm pretty fucking busy myself. I take a significant portion of my own time when I have my own RL stuff going on to play forum mafia. That's part of the reason I took a hiatus in the first place.

I don't disagree at all that RL is >>> than a forum mafia game we're playing for fun. But don't project or displace your frustration onto me.
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To clarify, when I pinged you (@Beruru) while you were gone it was because you said you were V/LA until Sunday, and it was Sunday so I thought you were supposed to be back by then and you hadn't posted yet.

 

I don't know why his reaction to the wagon on him is towny because it's literally just "@ guy who I townread for a bit, why are you on my wagon? Also, everyone else on my wagon is a wolf, even though I think there's max 1 between Beru and Empoof and I think dLGN is town."

 

Hi are you openly wolfing?

...

 

I mean, I was v/la until Sunday, but that's "literally unable to post". Now I can post, but it doesn't mean I can write a one page essay on every single player in the game. I'm still limited to when I can sit down and post, and I'm still not at an actual computer.

 

I read Citrus's TH6 iso very sleepily and it doesn't feel as tonebad to me but this is literally the easiest place to confbias ever, so, mrrrh.

 

He thinks you and Empoof are acting like partners, which is something I agree with. I also think you're mischaracterizing his tone a lot.

 

Right, I'm saying that I remember pinging you on Sunday and I apologize if that caused RL tension because I thought your V/LA was over on Sunday (vs. not being done til the end of Sunday).

You don't need to write a one page essay on anyone? Isn't your posted D2 read on Kai literally the counter-point to something like that?

There is not a single point in my iso that characterizes you as scum for low activity/posting/anything like that (if you find one, either you're mis-interpreting it or I miscommunicated and apologize as I didn't intend to seem as such). It does however fault you for what you did with the time you had ex: appearing busy/town rather than game-solving/trying to lynch scum (when I say lynch scum I mean find and lynch scum vs. a false read/vote thrown on a player for self!preservation purposes). That's not in any way an attack on you at all. But it is me thinking you are scum and trying to dodge a lynch with words rather than solving.

Like at minimum maybe answer/comment on my issues with your iso (which again aren't activity issues but are content issues), or give something more substantive on a player than "he's town/scum, moving on." You have stated a lot of reads on people right? You could also do a read-wall to show town-scum spectrum, doesn't take much time to do (except you're on your phone right? so maybe kinda difficult then)

 

Mostly Up-to-Date Post Count
Stanari - 356
Eido - 212
fonti - 211
Von - 182
Newcomb - 180
Citrus - 129
Reg - 125
Nego - 109
M Plus 7 - 106
Nothing Happens - 82
Beru - 61
Jari - 61
Empoof - 43
Kai - 39
Dlgn - 26