Let's discuss a world where the Statue of Secrecy doesn't exist, Magicals took over earth and eventually the WHOLE Universe. What would it be like? What would a Magical Star Wars be like? Let's discuss! Give your ideas!

 

Given that the British Ministry of Magic could outright change the prime minister's schedule on the fly and implant a wizard as a member of the Protective Guard, it doesn't take many leaps of logic to conclude that they already do, essentially, control the muggles.

Statute of Secrecy or not, the wizards can already employ authority over the muggles.

Universal conquering? No idea

I'd find it funny as fuck if they employ wizards and witches within the space program just with the sole goal of getting the muggles to fuck off from Earth and leave them alone.

The Department of Muggle Sciences and Exodus

It's the ultimate solution to the statute of secrecy problem. All of the muggles fuck off to some spit of dirt orbiting proxima centauri, some questionably habitable planet around Arcturus, or/and to Mars. The wizards live happily ever after

 

No. Wizards should stop hiding and just take over the muggles like Grindelwald wanted. Then they should first colonize earth, then the solar system, then the milky way galaxy and then eventually the WHOLE universe. This idea fascinates me, How would Interstellar Travel work? What about Aliens? What would the Political landscape of such a society be like? So many questions.

 

There aren't enough wizards to colonise Glasgow let alone the universe.

 

What is the sun but a giant fireplace to throw floo powder into?

 

Just use the geminio charm on wizard babies and you got as many wizards as you need.

 

Let's just assume that in this AU EVERY Human Being is Magical. Muggles don't exist.

 

Alright, so the premise is that it's harry potter magic but there are no muggles, everyone's a wizard or witch.

Ixion. I think you get an Ixion project which folds space (if there are space expansion charms, then surely you can compress space), and self-similar space sounds very similar to how magic often uses a component of someone else to make yourself similar (Voldemort 's resurrection with Harry's blood, or hair for the poly juice).
The evil AI is just a heliopath, obviously.

 

Don't you usually try to colonize places fit for human life?

 

Old thread, I know. But I'm old. Wizards have solved pretty much all the big issues with getting into space already. Even assuming that you can't fly a broom into space because it needs to push off air - a big assumption, but without it the wizards just have reactionless drives - then you can make spaceships weigh less than air with magic anyway. Hauling entire buildings into orbit is pretty simple once you can stop worrying about gravity. You would still need to actually get into orbit, but that's doable with some very basic rocket engines.

Getting to other planets is largely the same. You can haul massive quantities of cargo inside of containers that are vastly larger inside than they are outside - assuming that FTL via vanishing cabinets is forbidden - which cuts down on the need for convoys of ships. You can ignore the launch window issues because a wizard can very easily make a constant thrust 1g engine by having something constantly conjure water to act as reaction mass. Assuming he cannot enchant the water to fly out the back of the engine at the needed velocity for 1g acceleration; then a nuclear reactor, or some sort of enchanted heating set up could be needed, which is completely doable. Colonies are as simple as putting down some buildings enchanted to make their own air, and start the long and extremely tedious process of terraforming Mars/Titan/wherever. The "Soil" on these worlds is filled with toxic compounds, so you can't really grow anything in them even if you fill them full of earth bacteria, but cleaning that out is simply a matter of energy. Which, since the wizards are around, they have a practically infinite supply of.

Colonising other solar systems is the same. Again, I'm assuming that they can't travel faster than light, because 'portkey to another solar system lol' is completely retarded. If you want to send actual colonists, then petrify them, store them in a bigger-on-the-inside bag inside a container charmed to be essentially unreachable without magic, and boom. Instant colonists. They go to sleep in Earth orbit, wake up around Pandora and score themselves some blue cat people tail. The ship itself also can be extremely small - as far as interstellar ships go - since heat management, material strength, radiation, fuel, reaction mass, etc, etc, etc all can be essentially handwaved away. It'd be good to install some mechanical redundancies in case of any magical mishaps sure, but only for the first few interstellar jaunts; by the time you're on your 10th trans-solar launch you probably know the ins and outs of what happens on those trips. That's if you want to make the trip instant from the pov of the colonists. You could just as easily do a generation ship, or even an immortal ship if Flamel shrugs and shares the secret of immortality.

Maintaining them while everyone is a statue could be done - ironically - by enchanted statues. The wizards forays into robotics are significantly more advanced than our own, and theirs follow complex instructions very well. Piloting the vessel could be done by crews of wizards and muggles in shifts. Every 5-10 years a crew is un-petrified by the previous crew, brought up to speed on the situation, they mingle for a year or two, then the previous crew is petrified and the cycle repeats. If that's not to your taste, we know that wizard paintings can handle complex interactions with the real world; so just have a few of those done of steely eyed missile men and they can pilot the ships.

This does then make me wonder about bringing other magical species. House elves are a no-brainer, they'd be extremely useful as essentially living roombas no matter the stage of space exploration. Acromantula would be neat in space, big 3D megastructures made of silk and asteroids. Giants, Trolls and the like I can't really see a use for. Mermaids would probably have a fairly intuitive grasp of 3D space, so in theory they might be useful as pilots, but 3D in water and 3D in microgravity and orbital mechanics are very different.

Assuming that the wizards and muggles go full schizo and want to visit every solar system, they make ten ships a year from Earth, no ships visit more than one solar system, no ships set up colonies and make more ships, then it'd only be about 1300 years of ship building before the entire galaxy has a wizard ship heading towards it. If each ship builds a colony which builds more ships then that cuts it down significantly, and the limiter is essentially just the speed of light. So like, 80'000-150'000 years to completely colonise the entire galaxy? If you have someone re-apply the charms and maintain the vessel, you could ramp up to significant percentages of lightspeed, which if you're aiming for the edge of the galaxy, relativity is going to start being a real factor for the people on board. It is theoretically possible for Arthur Weasley to reach the edge of the known galaxy, and gaze out into the void towards Andromeda, having only felt 22 years pass from his perspective if they accelerate and break at 1g. Nightmarish.

 

That's a very long trip to go see Andromeda when he can just Floo her and be at her place within the minute /jk

 

The fundamental problem is motivation. Why would wizards colonise other planets at all? If they need more space on Earth they can just make more of it with expansion charms.

 

Floo powder I imagine takes slightly longer to reach distant locations. Which on Earth would be fine, but trying to like, reach Tau Ceti? In the spinny incendiary vomit inducer? Not ideal! Vanishing cabinets would be my go to 'narrative' method of interplanetary travel.

Oh, I see you mean Andromeda Tonks.

Wizards are adventurous just like your baseline evolved monkeys are. So a bunch of them setting out to explore the stars seems like a reasonable thing to do. From a story POV, you could have wizards find a bona-fide crashed UFO and get curious. Voldemort could have read a book on space exploration as a kid and got obsessed. Lots of things work for the 'why' part for individual wizards.

As a society? Fucked if I know? Earth gets whinged by an asteroid? Even then, unless it directly lands on a wizards house, there's no much to worry about for them. Wizards are technology wise - as magic is their technology - essentially closer to Star Trek, than they are to the year 2000. So without the impetus of aliens, or a mass cultural driver for expansion, there really isn't much of a need for them as a society to expand. As far as stories go, you could probably have Hogwarts have an 'Amateur Space Travel Society' where they go have scenic lunches on various planets during the final few years.

EDIT: From the POV of 'how would this be engaging', you essentially either write 'The Martian' with Wizards, or you just make it into some absurd parody tier space opera.

 

Fundamental human curiosity and thirst for needing more? We didn't need to go to the moon either. Colonization might be a term too strong, but what about visitation? I'd like to think that the magical means to do so would advance their "technology," much like the space race did ours too.

 

You can make this more understandable if there are magical aliens that are valuable sources of materials. Maybe there are jumping trees on mars that make amazing broom material or solar creatures that can cook potions faster.

Lunar cheese. Pluto has great ice diving for wizards with crack warming charms. Perhaps certain potions can be done better on planets with different astrological configurations or done at times they can't on earth. Out of season potions basically. Perhaps werewolves prefer living on planets without moons so they don't transform.

 

I mean, the moon is already made of cheese, so who knows what the other celestial bodies are made of.

 

We went to the moon to 'Finna pop a dab' on the USSR and show off that our nukes can hit them from anywhere in the world.

 

It seems like petrification would be hard. I think Draught of Living Death would be easier.