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Completed Evil!Harry

Discussion in 'Story Search' started by FreakLord, Aug 2, 2011.

  1. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    Is there any story featuring fully evil harry (something like lust of a dark soul) which is not abandoned or a one-shot.

    If there is none, maybe we should try to convince DarkSayoran to write one.
     
  2. Tehan

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    Shezza's Denarian series, arguably. The first three books are complete.
     
  3. Little Knee

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    Amerision's Equal and Opposite, of course ^_^
     
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  4. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    You kidding right? Shezza's denarian series is a dark harry fic done right. Not an evil harry fic. If you try to read that series looking for an evil harry, you would get to see an awesome but retarded harry trying to prove the world that he is evil through his words but completely failing.

    I am not flaming that series. It's one of my favourites but that doesn't fall into this category.


    Regarding Equal and Opposite, I wanted to find a fic with more than 10 chapters even though how awesome they are.
     
  5. Tehan

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    Okay, maybe he's not evil, but Meciel really needs to take off the kid gloves and just start backhanding him every time he starts pointlessly alienating potential allies, which is always.
     
  6. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    I hear you mate.

    And Harry definitely needs to stop with the sex jokes until he have sex atleast once more.
     
  7. Klael

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    I'm underwhelmed by the Denarian series. There's way too much Harry-being-an-ass for pure shock value. I got tired really quickly of rage!Hermione and indignant!Hermione and pretentious!Hermione and all the other cliche-anti!Hermione, it's very tiresome. Now, Shezza did a decent job with reconciling the two separate worlds of magic, and I really liked how it's a main plot point in the second Denarian book. It's too bad, because if that Harry was a little more of an anti-hero and less of an unmitigated sarcastic ass (which, again, grows old really fast), there could be some very nice character development and a very good exploration of some of the darker aspects of magic.

    Evil!Harry is a fairly uncommon character in fanfiction. We get a lot of Dark!Harry, and a bit of insane!Harry, but the only real Evil!Harry where Harry isn't an antihero I can think of off the top of my head is that Laurisia crackfic in the Thank God You Raped Me thread, and of course, Apacolypso's Incubus series (of which the only place one can find all 6 chapters is RestrictedSection.org).

    It probably says something of me that the only examples I can think of are violent, rape-heavy smutfics. Ah well, I can live with that.
     
  8. T3t

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    Evil!Harry is unfortunately found most often combined with the LVHP ship. The reasoning for this should be obvious. If you can bear to read slash or hints thereof, Xerosis and Paradise Lost are two rather different VeryDark/Evil!Harry stories, and both promise LVHP (though, in both cases, it hasn't really happened yet).
     
  9. Tehan

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    One problem is that the way things are laid out in HP, the most beneficial path for a completely evil Harry (in the sense of interested only in self-advancement, not the eating babies, killing kittens type) would be to align himself with the forces of 'good' to eliminate a clear threat to his continued existence and use it to leverage considerable political power.
     
  10. Klael

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    the biggest problem with the idea of an evil!Harry is that no one really does evil knowingly. Historically, people who have committed the greatest acts of evil do so believing that they are committing an act of good, or at the least a lesser evil to prevent a greater evil. Of course, from an outside perspective we can clearly tell that an act is an evil one, but the individual or individuals committing the act justify it to themselves, or delude themselves, or subscribe to a twisted worldview that allows for them to commit these acts without believing themselves to be doing evil.
     
  11. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    Slightly insane harry need not come into this category.

    Let's say that the prophecy given by Trelawney is fabricated to get a job. Then harry will not have the power of love. He will be slightly hinged by his childhood treatment. He hates the whole world which didn't help him and just wants to destroy the world even if he knows it's wrong.

    Now that I think about it, you may be right slightly.
     
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    I don't know if it's because I'm hungover but I've read this twenty times trying to understand what you're saying and I genuinely can't.

    Are you trying to say that the only way Harry wouldn't have compassion for the wizarding world is if Trelawney lied about the prophecy? Or that the only way he'd blame them for his terrible childhood is if the prophecy didn't dictate that he had the power of love?

    I'm not being a cunt I just genuinely don't understand what this post is about.
     
  13. KrzaQ

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    To be honest, the whole Jesus thing is harder to believe than Harry turning bitter and resentful (and extrapolating from that point later on) for being placed with Dursleys. I think that's what he meant, nmb, not the prophecy somehow altering Harry's behaviour.

    I've yet to read a real evil Harry, but Vash's works come closest.

    And please, just because some slash fangirl claims she's writing an evil Harry doesn't make it any more real than romance in her fic.
     
  14. Kaz Hirai

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    Exactly this. The observation that "No one errs or does wrong willingly or knowingly." is old as Socrates, but most fanfiction still functions under the kind of comic book morality that results in organizations like "The Brotherhood of Evil Mutants." A cartoonishly evil Harry is boring nonsense and most Evil!Harry stories end when the writer finally realizes this.

    Such a Harry Potter, angry and bitter as he would be, would still act how he believed was right. This obnoxious, omnicidal JRPG villain Harry Potter would naturally be acting under the opinion that the world "deserved" to be destroyed and that doing so would be an acceptable response to the events that drove him to hate.

    A less over-the-top Harry with that sort of background might, say, resent the other, happier children at Hogwarts for having better childhoods. This Harry might hate them for their "weakness" and conclude that any bullying or stealing on his part would be entirely deserved.

    A Harry who especially hated the Death Eaters might conclude that they "deserve" to have their families or friends killed and might target spouses, children, etc. to inflict emotional devastation on Death Eaters or other pureblood supremacists.

    An interesting Evil Harry is one driven, in ways we can understand and even sympathize with, to acts we consider evil, not a Clown Prince of Crime or world-eating JRPG final boss. Harries that do evil for the sake of evil have nothing to gain and no comprehensible motivation and cannot drive a story.
     
  15. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    I think Kaz Hirai post explained my intention. We have perfect reason for making Harry evil (not the cartoonish 'I am evil Potter' type). See the above post for that.

    But why have nobody done that yet?