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Horcrux question

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Spanks, Jun 29, 2007.

  1. Spanks

    Spanks Chief Warlock

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    A while ago I had an idea for a fic which started off at the end of Harry's 2nd year. The beginning of the fic starts off with Harry and Tom Riddle talking, etc etc. However, instead of destroying the diary right away, Harry hesitates thinking he might kill Ginny too. His hesitation costs him and Tom Riddle drains the last of Ginny's life. Thus resurrecting Tom Riddle.

    Now, my question is...

    If a person who created a Horcrux at 17 dies when he is 60, does he keep his 17 year old body when he is resurrected? Or will his body age to align correctly with the 60 year old soul piece?

    I was wondering because if I am going to write this fic, I wasn't sure if Tom Riddle should keep his 17 year old self, or have his body change to what it was before he "died".
     
  2. Snarf

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    I think that it was a soul piece that was split from his body when he was seventeen so it no longer grew or changed with the rest of Voldemort's soul. Think of identical twins. They start out with the same DNA, but that can change depending on circumstance and won't affect the other.

    You can put it either way, I suppose, but I'm not sure how you could essentialy make up a valid reason for him aging. Meh.
     
  3. Spanks

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    True, I guess if he comes back as his 17 year old self he would actually be weaker than his older self. His older self had over 60 years of knowledge, and skill. Not to mention rituals that he didn't preform on himself until he was older.
     
  4. Lorelei of the Sea

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    Well, in CoS, he almost kills Ginny, and he was still in his 17 year old body. Also, Tom Riddle didn't know about Harry, etc. until Ginny told him. I think that he, if he took a corporeal form, it would look like and have the memories and magic of his 17 year old self.
     
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    That makes sense. I didn't think about that, he doesn't have the knowledge of his future self, he has to get it from Ginny. So if I wanted to have Riddle be as powerful and knowledgeable as his older self I would have to have him go search out the Shade of his older self and merge with him. That way the younger Riddle learns everything his older counterpart knew.
     
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    That will be a bit difficult to pull off, but I definitely want to read it at some point. How are you going to have Harry survive -if you are- if Tom Riddle actually accomplishes his goal and is regenerated? He has the wand and Harry has a sword. Fawkes? Kind of lame because Dumbledore would be all over him before he even got out of the chamber. Well, unless you had a back entrance.
     
  7. Spanks

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    It would be pretty hard to have Harry escape. I guess Fawkes can go get Dumbledore and bring him to the chamber. It would lead to a nice duel between the two.

    As for Riddle escaping; when a person builds something underground, like a room, the constructor always makes a secondary exit in case of cave-ins. He could escape through that.

    But I wanted him to escape some other way. If you watch the anime Naruto, the character Orochimaru escapes from some situations by sinking into the ground and traveling underground, I wanted to do something like that.
     
  8. Gabrinth

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    I don't know. Tom was probably good at seventeen but probably not transofrm into mud and travel within the earth good. Also it was only after Tom left Hogwarts that he learned the bigger dark stuff and came back all transformed and shit so at seventeen I doubt wholeheartedly that he has any chance against Dumbledore.

    He probably wouldn't even have to fight Dumbledore in the first place though as Fawkes came later than the scene you are hoping to change. Would you make it from Tom's point of view? Because then you could off Harry and make it realistic. If your hoping to do it from Harry's point of view than younger Tom being ressurected and Harry somehow surviving to be hated by the Weasleys doesn't exactly sound like a bundle of fun to me.
     
  9. Spanks

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    Yeah, I figured Tom would get his ass handed to him by Dumbledore, the only way I can see Tom escaping is by distracting Dumbledore and running. That is why I figured that the new Tom would go and search for the Shade Voldemort that Harry killed as a baby and do something to obtain his knowleadge, something like merging with it.

    The Weasley thing crossed my mind, but I don't think I would use that becuase it has been done too many times. If anything they may just need some time to grieve before Harry spends the summer with them.

    I was also wondering, Voldemorts bodily transformations, they are because of him splitting his soul right? If that is true; the Diary is just a fragment, so wouldn't Toms' body start to change to look like he should with only a small portion of his soul? Like he did when he went for the DADA interview. Dumbledore said after each Horcrux he changed in appearence. OR would he look regular since he was absorbing Ginnys' life force?
     
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