Thread for what you thought of the book in general. I'm going to assume that people who click on a thread marked "spoilers" in a forum marked "spoilers" don't need protection from spoilers. Anyway, what did you think? I thought the mystery of Harry's killer was done very well. I can honestly say that I wasn't expecting it to be Molly at all. I actually thought it was going to be Harry himself. Lea's three hints all fit Harry - he's acquainted with himself, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands (Red Court) and was in the service of someone greater than he (Mab). I'm now wondering if in fact those three hints were talking about Harry, as he was the person who arranged his own death, or about Kincaid as the person who pulled the trigger. If Kincaid, I wonder which being Lea was referring to as the being Kincaid serves. Ivy seems the obvious answer, but she could have been referring to Kincaid's historical master, Drakul. Or Harry himself, though there's something of a question mark over whether Harry or Kincaid would win in a fight. Kincaid, after all, is someone even Ebenezer McCoy respects as an enemy, and McCoy is much more dangerous than Harry. At least in the traditional sense. I guess Dresden might be considered more dangerous in terms of how much plot armour he has. But anyway, I loved the moment where Molly was revealed to have had a part in his killing - though she wasn't exactly his killer, as the "Big Reveal" initially made it out to be. Moving on, there was lots of good characterisation on the Harry end, though I had been hoping for some other kind of fun advancement, like him ending up eating the Corpsetaker's power. I mean, he expended a lot of his essence as a ghost in fighting the Corpsetaker. Does that mean that power is now gone forever? Or now that he has a body again, will he be able to regenerate it? I was fairly satisfied with the ending, though I had thought for a moment we were going to get a Harry stuck in Hell. Which would have been fun. A breakout from Hell. As always, nice to see more of Uriel, though the Christian mythology in general still makes me uneasy. Not because it's there, but because it seems more and more that capital-G God exists and is pretty much the God of tradition - all powerful, all knowing, etc. And his followers also seem to be pretty fucking powerful too. Dresden remarks that Uriel has the power to destroy every planet in the universe. With such overwhelming power in place, and certainty that it exists, and that it exists on the side of the good guys, the whole story seems utterly pointless. I mean, if you knew for sure that Christianity was true, then you know a) all you have to do is be a Christian and everything will work out for you and b) the good guys will eventually win. There's no peril in a story in which God exists and has legions of followers who are also stupidly powerful. Not unless there's some threat to God too e.g. an Outsider capital-G God. But even in that case, Harry is so massively insignificant compared to them that there's no story there. More and more it seems that Butcher is writing Christian fantasy fiction. We know the story is heading for an apocalyptic trilogy. I'm beginning to worry that this is going to culminate with some full-on Christian fiction like the "Left Behind" series, albeit with wizards in it. As always, I was annoyed at Butcher projecting himself onto Dresden and the general nerdy fanservice. I swear, he turns Dresden more and more into a stereotypical nerd every book, and the rest of the cast along with him. All the references to pop culture/nerd culture which the character really has no business knowing. Has Dresden ever been on the internet? When and how did he see Star Trek? Sure, he might see the occasional film at the drive-in. But I'm fairly sure those places don't do show seasons of Star Trek. And how come Molly is suddenly such a fan of Star Trek that it's an integral part of her mental landscape? It's just like in Changes, that whole retarded "What character in LotR are we?" conversation. WHY IS THIS IN THE BOOK?