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Mountainous Mafia #2: Murder in Vanilla Town

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Vira, Sep 10, 2017.

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  1. Asmodeus

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    Ah well it seems as though he's fallen off here since mid-day.
    How sure of this meta are you?
     
  2. fontisian

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    I think it's slightly scum indicative.
     
  3. Asmodeus

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    @fontisian hey friend I'm sure you must've forgotten or clicked it accidentally but you'll want to remove that thumbs up from that post that I won't name because it's been a few minutes and it's still there and the host did clarify that they don't take kindly to the usage of that feature
    Maybe quote it and agree instead? Idk just unthumb it before you get thumbed for a silly thing like that
     
  4. fontisian

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    I don't know which it was, I think my cat walked on the phone. One sec.
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    Ok, found it. Were good.
     
  5. Asmodeus

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    Cool cool not like anyone can read into a cat anyways.
    Owait that's what you were doing earlier with my catpics ;)
    Kidding, kidding. I'm just teasing cause I'm tryna sleep and it isn't working
     
  6. fontisian

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    Hahaha omfg last thing I expected but soo good
    Charlie's a meme now <3
     
  8. Jan

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    I will read comment and do things when I wake up. Did too much stuff with allstars folk and I am dead tired now.
     
  9. Jarizok

    Jarizok Auror DLP Supporter

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    I have some catching up to do.
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    Hmm, yes, "check this game to see how Fonti and I wolf" is crap. You guys've been around the block enough to maybe be capable of more than 1 exact strategy.

    I don't buy the rest either, but it seems I'll be spending time defending myself again so whatevs for now.

    As to my reads (as of the time of the list):

    Rubi's basically a carbon copy of his WH9 self. Owner's market Rubi was a bit robotic coming back to things and WH8 was closer to that in scum form. I haven't seen anything concerning from him, so confident town for now.

    Miner's not a copy of himself because he's been trying different styles for the last 4(?) games now. However, scum!Miner has misplaced confidence and bravado, and usually a couple of buddies/sparring partners in the thread for that sweet interaction. He's in his own little corner doing his own thing now. That's very much not scum!Miner imo.

    Fable is where I always put him. Really though, this group with Asmo and Delphine, they're all doing reasonable things with nothing pinging me. I have suspects elsewhere, and no such feeling of semi-OKness for Fluff and GH, so they're fine for now. Don't want to lynch them right now, so light town.

    Fluff is where you guys go " But you said this is his town meta, so you have to townread him!!!!". That's crap. Yes, Fluff's a low poster. Yes, his scum game I've seem he was more active. So that's his meta, that's just out there. Why the fuck does that mean he's town here? If there was ever a playstyle that's easy to fake, not doing anything would be the one. So him not having done anything to make me read him town leaves him null. I later said I'd have expected him to throw in a line or two somewhere because there's usually some kind of regularity to his sparse posts though, and the time for one felt like it had come and gone.

    GH hadn't done terribly much, and I have 0 on him to start with. Just null.

    Beru's coasting hard. I get not being in game mode quite yet. We were all feeling that at the start of this game, it was a bit slow. But it feels like more than that from Beru, like even their own posts aren't good enough to get them into it. Which, admittedly, they're pretty bad. Something just feels off there, a disconnect in mindset and confidence level.

    Fonti I felt good about, until the fake Miner thing. I was already suspicious of Jan, and noticed a difference in how they were acting towards each other compared to other games (ie, they weren't interacting at all this game). That's plenty of suspicious behaviour for me, and the fact that I've yet to land on the right side of a Fonti read makes it easier to reverse there.

    So there. 89 post catch up inc. (89? Thank god this game is so much slower than the last 2/3.)
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    Really, no roles in Mountainous? Good thing you mentioned this, Jan being so new, he might not have known.

    If you say it was a joke, I might believe you, but I don't get it.
    Hmm, so you started out scumreading me, and now magically reasons for it start trickling in? Convenient. Also, bound to happen if you're looking for them. You say I'm tunneling for making 1 post about thinking someone's scum, but all you've done this game is say "Jari is scum" without backing it up. That's a lot more like a tunnel imo?
     
  10. Beruru

    Beruru First Year

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    Jari, you're missing a meme (and also the context of that post).
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    It would be a tunnel if I could find reasons for you to be town.

    ... But I can't find them. Sorry.
     
  11. Jarizok

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    Please read!

    I like this post. I can buy GH having this thought (people have obviously been thinking it of me for a while, it's also true) and checking it should indeed show that I case people for others most of the time, since I'm alread of that mindset. This is an interesting difference with what Rubi said later actually, about me talking myself around on people sometimes.

    My process:

    I have a scumread on someone from feels and particular posts.

    I reread from Iso and make the case following the ISO chronologically.

    If the case doesn't hold up to my feels, it shows, and I can reverse midway through. I've also been known to power through in earlier games because I had the thing and didn't want to seem too... uncertain? Not confident?

    If it does hold up, it can read like a narrative, like I'm trying to make that person SEEM scummie. I thought they were scummie, and I'm grabbing at things to substantiate the feeling.

    This is very different from the "from scratch" cases a Newcomb or a Reg makes, and what people here are likely to follow.

    I'm glad I could finally clear this up, if not for any of you than for myself. I've been struggling with this a bit.
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    Okay, so Jan's explanation /could/ be true.

    However; we have a post. Possible reasons for the post are either 1) the spew and everything we've had going on, or (2 coincidence. If there's a motive for the post to be easily detected, why chalk it up to chance?
    We should lynch Jari because we're going to lynch Jari. Oh, also Delphine and Fluff. We should totally lynch everyone I can get away with.

    You supposedly have an actual scumread on me, and the best reason for lynching me you can come up with is this?
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    Some unusually harsh criticism from you Rubi. I disagree. Explained earlier why the reversing thing sometimes happens, and it didn't happen here because it fits.

    Not helpful, but really, if I just wanted to lynch someone I'd have gone for anyone else before Jan.
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    To round up, preciate the level head Asmo, but I'll be around to fight the battle myself.

    I quote Fluff's sig with your name inserted there.
     
  12. GeneralHankerchief

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    @fontisian I found something:

    I made this post about halfway through the game back in January and was town.
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    My very next post in that game (a post or two down the page) provide the follow-up.
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    Appreciate the insight, Jari.
     
  13. Delphine

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    I also found GH's tone there notably detached, but it seemed out of place to me. Why do you think it's town indicative?
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    This case is very stream of spaghetti at the wall? Like, particularly wherein I quoted, it's context deaf from Jan's later explanation of the reads and what fonti posted immediately afterward to Fable (do you buy those or does it strengthen your case?)

    I like this, though.
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    Like, it's a little nugget of seemingly really wanting to be listened to. It's cute.
     
  14. Jarizok

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    Gimme a sec to find the post it was about, I lost ISOs again.

    The reason for Jan and Fonti not interacting with each other is legit. If Fonti really was reaction testing with the Miner thing, which is not unthinkable, she could easily be town. Don't think Jan's interactions with you make him less scummie.
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    I'm always cute. Look at my avatar! Cuddly.
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    That entire GH post feels like he's forcing himself to post anything at all to be involved. That in itself could be scummie, but it's townie in that there's no angle to it. It has a footnote feel to it, a wanting to be part of the conversation but just not really feeling it yet. Scum would just fake it I think.
     
  15. Delphine

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    I don't understand why this gets posted except to try to get townread, and I don't like later on how many words get wringed out of it later on.

     
  16. Miner

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    Jari has traditionally made some pretty outlandish cases as town. And TBQH I really don't think he makes the "Please Read" post as scum.
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    And with that I'm back to being afk until like 30 minutes before deadline
     
  17. Delphine

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    Ooh, relevant meta.

    Except the meta is discussed in a way flowier manner? Like, yes, that sounds like a townie might go about explaining a reaction test and building upon it conversationally - that's not what it's sounded like in either case in this game.
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    Fake it?
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    Quick note on my activity since I have a minute before my session resets - turns out I'm going to my SO's parent's house for the weekend so I'll be able to be more active on D2. I otherwise have 50 min library sessions that
     
  18. GeneralHankerchief

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    I was talking with people I knew in that one + it was around D3 (D4) of a very intense game. For someone who bothered to do the dive I feel like you should know that the context was pretty different.
     
  19. Jarizok

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    Fake it as in, sound less detached, more in the flow, stand out less.
     
  20. Vira

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    Mountainous Mafia #2 Votal 1.11

    Jari [3] - Delphine, Beru, Font.
    Jan [2] - Fable, Jari.
    Fluff [2] - GH, Asmo.
    Beru
    [1] - Miner.
    Font [1] - Rubicon.

    Not Voting [2] - Jan, Fluff.

    With eleven players alive, it will take six votes to soft-lynch and nine votes to hard-lynch!

    Day One ends on September 14 at 3pm PST.

    Six hours left!
     
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