I'm going to just try and detach from this game almost completely outside of small posts from hereon, this isn't healthy.

I agree with very little of this fwiw, I have NH more likely to be mafia if Fen is mafia too, not if Fen is town so the "1 in there" I strongly disagree with. I don't have anything that has NH/Tsaiah as unaligned nor do I town read Tsaiah -- do agree her inactivity is now NAI and should be looking elsewhere, contemplating moving to Fenwicked but I won't move my vote until I leave today and when I do my vote will stay wherever it is until EOD. I don't see any reason why there's 'only 1' in Nego/Citrus/Kai, no anti-aligns in there too.

 

Okay, I have a tsaiah read now.

The main thing is that they come across as extremely nervous. Stanari, is that a thing for them regardless of alignment?

 

Why is NH/fen 1 mafia as opposed to 2? I'm assuming as opposed to 0 is predicated on either or being scum-reads but I don't see the logic beyond that

Tsaiah is probably town + NH/tsiah has 1 mafia = ???
Why that unalignment? Beyond the fact that all you're saying there is NH is mafia.

This entire blurb boils to fen + tsaiah town, NH mafia except all the logic is missing and that conclusion doesn't even come out of the post obviously. Clarify pls

 

Jan/Vaimes not hugely likely, yes, agree with Newcomb that I think it plays out differently if they're together but haven't ruled it out as im possible. I mean, sure, there's probably 1 scum somewhere in my town reads, I don't think it's more than that though and can weed that out as the game progresses? Can you explain the Beru lazy meta in one sentence and what's moved Vaimes up?

 

Why do you have him more likely to be mafia if fen is mafia?
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Beru is carefree.

Vaimes is carefree.

 

Beruru is slowly losing stock again, and I won't be particularly amused if it continuously does that with bolsters every now and then when pressure occurs.
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@Gemma
Pick me pick me, I quoted your posts too!

 

You asked the same thing as Jan and I'm working on it, calm down.
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Also, this is my process of figuring things out, not of giving you the answers, so don't be silly about it please.

 

I think it could be a thing for both alignments. There's a decent number of worlds where she isn't as town, and probably some where she does a better job hiding it as scum.
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I disagree strongly with Beru and anemically with Vaimes.

 

This is a pretty bad read but I don't think it's the way that you read a partner who is being dumpstered.
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Wait, I just remembered that I think I played against tsaiah when she was mafia in a game on MU a while back. Okay, I'm going to read that game because I have vague memories about her game there.

You don't think Beru is carefree but you think they're town for different reasons?

 

You should definitely read that, actually, she doesn't have a lot of posts but the tonerange is more similar than Office.

 

I can't find the thing that I thought was unaligned about NH/tsaiah which means it probably only existed in my own mind. Oh well.
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This is the part where I remember that oh yeah I'm not actually allowed to put the insane ramblings that go on inside my mind into the game thread because other people have brains.
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tsaiah's ISO feels like an upside down hype smiley.

 

That's a very evocative description.

 

My lynch preference yesterday was: smiles > tsaiah > Miner > Kai

My lynch preference today is: smiles > tsaiah> Miner > Kai
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In other words, I have no one that I actually want to lynch outside NH.
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Okay, I have not played with tsaiah. Sad wilt-y noise.

 

Found the way he went about coming back into the thread and analysing the game, particularly re; the Fenwicked in 738 to make sense in a world where scum are in trouble and have little thread presence/control and are knowing that losing a member just starts a momentum that they can't particularly recover from so he's trying to save a partner. I think the reasoning behind the Fenwicked stance fits that sort of thing and not a "Protecting/getting cred for defending a townie" type thing moreso, the response to Stanari in 920 sort of felt like the same sort of thing. The "Sure he could have been bussed 'BUT' ~vague non specific reason why he might be town~" is how I've seen scum treat partners before. There's also another element to this that you'l just have to to accept as RAISONS since I don't think it's healthy to mention here but yeah, I don't have them as anti-aligned at all. Not saying if we lynch one, they flip scum to murderize the other instantly, but I'd certainly be looking at them.

Bleh to the carefree explanations, don't find it accurate re; Bears play here either, actually strongly disagree with it.

 

She replaced out of Hydra Game 6...way before you replaced in, which I may have forgotten >> is that what you were thinking of?

 

Also I think I'm good to lock Stanari in as town after going through her ISO?

 

I think Beru is very far from carefree but I can see the shape of them being town, for other reasons, yes.
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Congratulations!

 

You're so. Slow.

 

Really? I sure liked it when I made it.

 

To be completely honest I just didn't want to write words and that was the easiest single word that came to me to describe the lack of muddy intentfulness that they have when they're mafia.
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No, was different game. I can read that game too though!