Agreed with Taure, and I find it strange that people are even having trouble seeing what was so unnatural about the way they set that scene up. I'm completely fine with the idea of an all woman scene doing something awesome, but they literally had them continuously slide in from off screen and it didn't even make sense for some of them to be there, let alone singularly congregated together in one part of the battlefield. Others have mentioned Shuri but there's also Mantis, entirely unarmed and unarmored - is she just running around trying to put enemies to sleep with her hands?

I think there was something awkward around the way it was edited in general to be honest in comparison to some of the previous examples of long panning shots of groups in other Avengers movies.

Edit: @Ched I doubt Tony would snap Gamora, at that point she'd betrayed Thanos to help Nebula and Quill hadn't she? I imagine the infinity gauntlet is capable of making discernments like that when Tony is thinking something along the lines of 'destroy Thanos and all his forces'. Plus like I mentioned earlier in the thread, Quill was running a search for Gamora on his screen (the one he and Thor fought over) implying he believes she's still around somewhere.

 

Alternate realities. Whenever they went into the past of their own, it immediately split off. When they went forward, they were going forward and over one reality.

Well that was the theory I had before Cap went back for Carter. That really fucked things up.

 

Not so much in a "If a reality does not have the Stones it will fail" way, but more a "If we do not have these powerful weapons to defend ourselves we will fall" way.

 

Saw it. Loved it. Not gonna bother with much else.

 

@Shinysavage when Spidey meets up with Ned, I assumed Ned also got snapped and now they're back. Snapped people got returned as they went, same age, at least that's my assumption. If Ned wasn't snapped, then either they fucked up with him still in high school, or he dropped out, or it's a college with very high school-like lockers.

Gamora was charging with the good guys against Thanos' army in the final battle, she was clearly already having doubts about Thanos in 2014, given that this was the year she joined up with Guardians against Ronan (one of Thanos' guys). So I can buy the Mind Stone being able to tell the difference and not counting her as part of Thanos' army for Tony's snap. Recall that AoU suggested the Mind Stone itself was like an AI.

State of the world should be an absolute mess what with 4 billion people suddenly reappearing with no memory of the last five years. Spidey's next film was described as taking place right after Endgame, so I expect at least a token mention for worldbuilding purposes.

Since Marvel is already here, she should be kept strictly to cosmic scale threats in future films. I wouldn't buy her in any conflict of lesser weight than Thanos.

I think I'll feel more longing for the loss of Natasha than Tony. Iron Man had a rich send off and Thanos was a personal nemesis for Tony more than any other Avenger barring perhaps Thor. If you're gonna write out arguably the biggest character in your cinematic universe, there was no better way to do it. Natasha and Clint are the only two of the OG 6 who never had a solo movie, or even a team up movie just for them. Yeah, they were by necessity outliers in a superpowered team, but still... I'll miss her. Nat was an A-class supporting character.

 

The fact that Quill is searching for Gamora at the end is a clue. He's aware that Thanos killed present version and both he and Nebula were probably close to the past version of her on the battlefield to be aware if she turned to dust with the rest.

My interpretation is she survived, but didn't want to stay with the Guardians who are strangers to her. Wouldn't be surprised if Nebula actually had information where she went, but keeps it to herself.

 

Yeah but there's reliable time travel tech now, so if Stones are needed again, they can borrow them from the past again.

 

I could do without seeing her wooden acting and flat as a board ass again. She’s terrible.

Beyond that, fucking spectacular movie. Thor Lebowski will live on in infamy.

 

If they just had him show up on the platform it would all be clear. However in the true tradition of this board I’m going to say the Ancient One helped him out. A wizard did it.

 

So after trying in vain to avoid any spoilers, finally managed to see it today. And have to say, I feel overwhelmed... in a good way. Still waiting for it to all sink in I suppose.


"I am Iron Man." Indeed

 

So am I to understand that this went nothing like the comics? None of the Celestial beings showed up.

 

I'm really interested in OG Captain's Mad Adventure.

What Timeline did he settle in? What role did he play there? Did he wake up that's timeline Captain America? Did he fight Hydra with his future knowledge etc

Also there is a timeline where Hydra thinks Cap is a double agent.

 

Watched Endgame today. Will type out more sophisticated thoughts on the movie later, once I've had more time to think about it (and less drunk), but for now let's just say that I think this is the epic of our times, the modern answer to those world-heroic stories like the Iliad and Odyssey.

 

Wait..there's confusion over gamora? I thought it was pretty obvious she and Nebula peaced out and the next guardians movie will be them hunting for her.

Yeah...it somewhat suspends disbelief that the world can go back to the "status quo." Unless of course Hulk's snap restored infrastructure etc.

Y'all. Imagine the insurance companies. People show up and their houses/cars etc. were blown away.