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How would you rewrite Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Arthellion, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. Arthellion

    Arthellion Lord of the Banned ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    So for NTT, I figured I'd ask this question. How would you rewrite the first Harry Potter book?

    I'm specifically curious how people would write it...without changing any of the later books? What plot holes would you fix? How would you change the tone if at all?

    Then also, there is the generic, how would you change it without being constrained by the later books.
     
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  2. Blorcyn

    Blorcyn Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    First things first, and this is really trivial, but I’d change the magic to be in keeping with the later books. No Dumbledore flying to London. No Snape/Quirrel chant-off.

    Also, I’d put something about magical cores in one of the Professor’s introductory class speeches and so prevent the rise of the greatest muggle Dark Lord fanfiction has ever known.
     
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  3. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    Didn't he use a broom though? I don't think he was Voldemort flying, or did I miss the point of what you're saying?

    In regards to the OP, I'd like to see more magic. I feel like there are so many under utilized things. World building for one. I'd love to see more of the wizarding world. The world cup gave us a glimpse, but I'd be more interested in seeing it earlier on. Transfer students from other schools, and the like.

    Re: More magic. I know that first year is a lot to expect in regards actual skill, but I'd have like to seen more ambient magic around the school. The floating staricases and trick stairs, and doors that were only doors on certain days were just a brief glimpse that was never used again afterwards. The novelty and newness as seen through the eyes of Harry was kind of lackluster in the later books, and even in the later half of PS.
     
  4. Glimmervoid

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    I'd start with the title. "Sorceror's Stone"? Doesn't really do it for me. Kind of weird and doesn't match the latter books. Maybe something with a bit more historical flavour. Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone maybe.
     
  5. Blorcyn

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    I thought he used a broom, but I also think that it doesn’t gel with apparition which we see in later books, or flu travel, or portkeys.
     
  6. Zombie

    Zombie Black Philip Moderator DLP Supporter

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    But if Hogwarts prevents apparition then brooms or portkeys would make sense. I would say its cracked up to Dumbledore's eccentricity.

    That'd be a downvote if I ever saw one.
     
  7. Arthellion

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    I think the one thing I would add in general to the first book is more worldbuilding and a better system for magic. I know that's not the style of Rowling and I'm not saying you have to go full Brandon Sanderson, but more concrete rules on magic and the wizarding world background would've done wonders for later things in the series.
     
  8. Ched

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    I’d be scared to change anything out of fear it would suddenly mean the series didn’t take off and all that sweet sweet money wouldn’t be coming my way.

    The chant off doesn’t bother me because it’s LV and Snape, both of whom are supposed to be ‘powerful’ though at different levels. But if we’re never going to see much like it again I’d rather adjust it here.

    Provide enough context for the obstacle course that it doesn’t seem so blatantly like it was set up perfectly for first years to teamwork their way through. I’m okay with people still having that reading of it if they insist, but make it more ambiguous. Same for why the Stone wasn’t in Dumbledore’s desk under a Fidelius - don’t need to tell us why, just hint that it was intentional.

    Make the Wizarding World feel bigger. Even a two paragraph summary from a class Harry is in or a Hermione lecture would do. Could easily use History of Magic to provide this too. Even a distracted line like, “Binns was going on about the shamans of South Africa, who used chants instead of wands, when Ron finally passed the note back.”
     
  9. kira and light

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    For sure the obstacles put in place by the professors to keep the stone secret

    They are just idiotic even able to be overcome by first years and a door guarded by a cerberus which can be overcome by a first year spell...

    Also Dumbledores last minute points to Gryffindor I personally find this kind of funny but I think this plus the stone protections contribute in large part to his perception as the Gryffindor partial, master manipuator.

    Imo the first books were much more aimed to young children instead of teenagers so Rowling just wanted the good guys to be rewarded and beat the Slytherins but it would have been better if they received awards for services to the school like Voldemort because it kinda reflects very poorly on Dumbledore.
     
  10. Zombie

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    Lets not introduce fanon speculation into this.
     
  11. Blorcyn

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    @Ched I think the sad part is, when looking at drafts and notes from that book of HP exhibition trivia and early versions of philosophers stone, A History of Magic, lots of little lines like that or bigger scenes that had that sort of extra world building got cut away.
     
  12. Zombie

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    I feel like this is a matter of hindsight. Sure it makes sense after the fact, but at the age and time when you read it, did you honestly have that thought in your head? I had some vague sense of, well, this is quite the adventure for a group of kids, I wonder what's gonna happen next.

    Something I just had the though of wanting to see changed would have been the absolute disparity in terms of wizards of Dumbledore's caliber. Surely there were others that were just as good as he was. Maybe not as old or notorious, but the're never really highlighted. It also lends itself to all the older threads we have where we're ranking the HP cast in terms of power. We're only shown a brief glimpse of their abilities, but is those glimpses all that comprise the character?

    So, a more distilled thought would be: I want to see the entire HP cast have more depth. There are small things you can do to accomplish this. I feel like even characters like Snape remained 2D in the end.
     
  13. Ched

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    Yeah, actually. I read it for the first time at about 17 because it was in the car I happened to be in for a drive. It wasn’t mine and at the time I wasn’t into reading kids books.

    I remember actively dismissing the entire book and series because it was just so damn dumb about things like the obstacle course. Book was a lot of fun otherwise but clearly it wasn’t worth anything more than a bored-while-stuck-in-car-read. Typical kids story crap that doesn’t make sense.

    ((At seventeen I was sick of books that talked down to me or over-simplified. Had a hell of a chip on my shoulder about it.))

    But then it wasn’t Snape at the end. In a typical childrens book I felt it would have been. That’s the redeeming quality that got me into the series that I later came to love.
     
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    I feel like the chant-off makes sense considering they were trying to be discreet. I also like that it's not as useful in a live duel.
     
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    Depends on the way you want to go, at least for me.

    If you want to keep it more of a children's' story and less in line with the later tone, I would say make things a bit more "magical" at Hogwarts and not simply quirky or different. Don't make the mystery quite so obvious from Dumbledore's beginning speech. Maybe show more characters or interaction outside of Gryffindor and a few Slytherins so we get an idea of how they are actually different or act. Nix the whole Binns situation, either getting rid of history or make it an elective like say Arithmancy.

    If you want to make the book a bit less fairy tale and more pre-teen/teen level, change up some of the mechanics of the world more. Keep the magic more in line with Goblet of Fire or later, maybe make Quidditch a little bit less broken in terms of design (or make Harry less of a natural prodigy), and offer some sort of better explanation for why the stone (or any artifact really) is being kept at Hogwarts. You can definitely keep the Snape/Quirrel-gotcha reveal, but make the turban-face thing a bit more believable as a secret.
     
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    I'd expand the cast a bit. Give personalities to some of the lesser-known students.

    I'd make Hogwarts bigger, with more teachers and students.

    Malfoy would be a little less of a punk or at least be a little more clever with his insults. He's so bloody obvious and rude I can't imagine anyone in Slytherin would like him. All he is presented to be is a rich bully.

    Oh, and make catching the Snitch be 50 points and the end of the game, not 150.
     
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    Have the Troll kill Hermione. Use this as a wake-up call for Harry and Ron.
     
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    Make the magic more in line with later books.

    I'm not sure how to fix it, but the traps need work.
     
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    I'd remove all instances of the Dursleys being cartoonishly dickish. Petunia swatting at Harry with a frying pan, locked in the cupboard. This is so hurt/comfort/abused Harry fanfiction would cease to exist.
     
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