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JoaT^2 15er - A Mafia Game

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    I think you've been playing well this game honestly, but I also don't have a clear memory of what exactly you've done (because I don't have a good memory, not because you've been invisible). Your push on tom is whatever, everyone wanted him dead I don't think that's on you in particular at all.
     
  2. Gemma

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    I was referring to past games with the wolfsiding super hard thing.
     
  3. Gemma

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    I don't understand what you mean by this. "On the nose" is how I'd describe something like this:
    Explain what you mean in relation to the Waco post?

    Yeah, this all is why I pulled Waco down to the bottom of my readlist after the Cuth flip. It's probably reason enough for him to have to always die this game, but I don't think it's impossible for him to just have a really bad looking read as a villager, and I think there's maybe room for the argument that if he was comfortable being as strong on defending Cuth as he was in 484 then it doesn't super follow that he'd then slip into the pattern he does later.

    I think tom's strong feelings were about the day after that, when Cuth actually got lynched, not when it went onto Jari. Haven't looked closely to try to see what he was talking about yet, but it's probably not going to be the kind of thing that does much for me even if I do end up seeing it.
     
  4. Gemma

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    I can't fault you for that.
     
  5. Gemma

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    Oh, right. I forgot about his VLA thing.
     
  6. Regfan

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    @Gemma I think EoD is tomorrow at 2pm our time, like 25 hours from now, not today.

    Thank you, is something I thought but didn't want to voice to bias others, but I agree.

    I think this is probably a good thing/good sign though. Like that we've all stepped back and came to the same sort of conclusion, even if we all got there slightly different ways.
     
  7. Gemma

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    The stuff about Sloth, yeah?
     
  8. Vaimes

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    About why I’m scumreading fontisian: because when I have too many townreads, it usually means font is scum.

    I’m town. I don’t really think Waco or Dels is the last wolf. And if people don’t think it’s Cobalt, then it means people seriously need to reframe their gameview.

    I feel like if I die, people will go from “I’m certain Waco and Dels are town” to “oh there’s definitely scum between them.” Square peg round hole kind of deal. Obviously the last wolf has a halfway decent plan to win, and I imagine this game will be going to final three, so get ready for that.
     
  9. Gemma

    Gemma Sixth Year

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    Oh thank god.

    I was super stressed for a moment there and feeling regretful about taking yesterday off.

    Reg, would you mind going over your fonti read for me? Doesn't have to be a full rundown, but like. I'm actually not confident enough in my townread there to bet the game on her, if we misyeet today and I'm faced with 3 people in Cobalt/Waco/Dels that I all think are ~town I'd like to have your thoughts on her down on the page if that isn't too much to ask.
     
  10. Vaimes

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    Also the rumors of me TMI‘ing tom town, please eat me. He was a little over the top but everyone was shitting on him in return and I didn’t care for it.

    I didn’t empathize with Cuth much because I barely know him. I’m sure he’s great though.
     
  11. Vaimes

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    And I felt like the way he was getting pressure was more from because people didn’t like his attitude, and I think the last wolf was capitalizing on it because it’s easy to push. If you want to play the emotions game.
     
  12. Regfan

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    Yeah, I'll do that later today when I finish work.
     
  13. Gemma

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    Hugs
     
  14. Vaimes

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    We get three yeets?

    If I live, Cobalt > fontisian > do deepwolf rereading in final three depending on who’s alive.

    If you kill me, I don’t know what path you take afterwards, but you need to have the Cobalt-or-font-is-scum conversation.
     
  15. fontisian

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    Von, my question is has your read on me changed over the entire game?
     
  16. Vaimes

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    I think about this a lot, but Dels has come off as so genuinely ~by himself~ for the whole game.
     
  17. Vaimes

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    Certainly.

    I’ve only actively talked about scumreading you, but there were times where I townread you because I thought I was being paranoid or unfair, or to be diplomatic because Reg felt strongly about it.

    But now I don’t really care anymore, I have stronger townreads elsewhere.
     
  18. Vaimes

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    The threat of being yeeted isn’t going to change anything. My legacy is to kill fontisian and Cobalt, the end.

    If I somehow end up in final three, I’ll at least be in a position IRL to not be this dismissive.
     
  19. Vaimes

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    Bedtime. Take it away, night crew.
     
  20. Gemma

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    @Regfan I actually. Hm. I don't know, fonti's posting this page / last page just... doesn't feel like she's really here. I can see her going through all the correct thought processes and stuff, but I don't get the sense that she's actively working through her the game in her own way and arriving at her own conclusions. Her Vaimes doubts are, well, they kind of come across more as TMI than her struggling to get a read on Vaimes, and then she just snaps there on Vaimes based on his post about the nightkill, ehhh idk. My townread on her day 2/3 or whenever it was, I've already gone over how that should have been a nullread and not a townread, I misplayed that because I was emotionally compromised. Her play and tone has been really all over the place, she eventually settled into something more "her" which I was townreading because her tone the last time she was a wolf with me was so stilted, but she's had several scumgames since then, it's entirely possible that she was able to finally find her feet in the game and show a much more developed voice. I'm having a lot of misgivings and I don't want to be like, unlocking the game or whatever but I just don't feel like Cobalt/Dels/Waco are wolves, Cobalt/Waco have bad things about them sure but what villager doesn't at this point in the game, Vaimes can be mafia by PoE sure but I don't wolfread him, and in the world where he's town? Meh. I just feel like I slid into townreading fonti for kind of provisional and bad reasons and never really did much work on the read since because you said you were townreading her and she had the Cuth antialign, I've been continually feeling less good about it as the game has progressed, she keeps doing little things that sort of make me headtilt, I have this niggle that Amy was playing as if she had someone deep, I don't know if I'm just experiencing some stupid paranoia or what but I have bad feelings about her being the game winning clear here and I shouldn't be having bad feelings about that? So talk to me about it? Also... I need to do a proper reread of her because I haven't actually done that yet.
     
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