I actually liked Neville throughout the books, but not to the extent that I would read a Neville-centric story.

 

Which is more than anybody else did.

In fanfiction, Neville has so much potential to turn dark or kick-ass. He'd make a great side character - not as a friend of Harry, but as a feared warrior who does his own thing.

 

You see it as causing trouble I see it as recruiting new fighters for the cause. Had Harry failed, Neville and his group would be the next generation who would fight Voldemort.

It's just too bad that Harry was the main hero and this is a children's story. Had JKR had any real balls Harry should have died as a martyr for Neville who would be the one to finish the job. (many years later of course)

 

Had Harry failed the magical world would be doomed. Simple as that. I too wished for Harry to die, but I realised if he did, nobody would be able to defeat Voldemort. You can give Neville a hundred years and he will still not reach the level Voldemort is on. Remember that Voldemort took on the few remaining powerful witches and wizards like McGonagall etc and kicked their asses singlehandedly.

You may have some strange obsession with Neville, but come on, face up to reality. He's brave and courageous and whatnot, but not particularly talented or powerful. Even Harry, who by all accounts is a more talented/powerful wizard than Neville, only triumphed because of the Elder Wand and JKR's totally fucked up theory of wand domination. Had Voldemort picked any wand, any other wand than the Elder Wand, Harry would definitely perish.

I know JKR has, throughout the series, given you the wrong idea that being brave will see you to success and triumph, but facts are facts. Neville is brave, and is very good at Herbology. So what? What is he going to do? Use a Devil's Snare to throttle Voldemort? No, that wouldn't work becaue Voldemort is possibly the world's best Legilimens and would see what Neville is up to the moment he comes into sight. If Neville pulls out a wand he will be annihilated. It doesn't matter if he trains for fifty years, because even if you take into account Voldemort's slowed reactions due to ageing, the gulf in power and talent is simply too wide to breach. I'd give Nev five minutes at most before he dies.

 

Lucullius I think you are giving Neville too much credit for lasting five minutes. My guess. Voldemort would crush him in a 1-2 minutes. He was playing around with Minerva, Kingsley, and Slughorn. All of whom are portrayed to be exceptional in their abilities. What fucking chance does Neville Longbottom have?

As for Neville taking Harry's place after he is dead. It's utterly preposterous, Harry's been through more shit than any other character. He has developed aptitude for facing Voldemort and Death Eaters. Neville wouldn't last very long that much I'm assured of.

The most Neville is good for is a side-kick, or someone who goes his own way and becomes a vindictive bastard towards DE's. Though to have him face Voldemort is absurd.

Homer

 

You are making Harry up to be some kind of power house which he isn't. Voldemort lost because he was incompetent. He will lose again if the focus of the story changed to Neville.

 

Harry's mother's protection left him with blood protection. Voldemort used that same blood which means Harry lives as long as he does. Neville doesn't have that unless you have Neville as the BWL. The prophecy also mentions Harry being an equal and having the power the Dark Lord knows not. Therefore Neville isn't the Master of Death or Elder Wand so his chances at defeating Voldemort are 0%. Voldemort wasn't incompetent he was arrogant. He lost because he had Harry's wand. If he chose any other wand it would kill Harry or Neville. The situation won't change because Neville isn't destined to be the Master Of Death.

Also Harry is somewhat competent and powerful. He drove over a hundred Dementors away with his Patronus. Killed a thousand year old monster at 12. Won the Triwizard with some help, but he won. Faced twelve very dangerous DE's with 6 school children behind him and almost beat them. Faced a Dark Lord and killed him. Harry was very lucky I will give you that much, but he still accomplished all those feats.

Neville's done none of that stuff. In fact he fucked up at the Department Of Mysteries royally by knocking Harry's wand out of his hand. He really has no experience with fighting Voldemort and DE's.

You are welcome to write your fic in fact I encourage you to do so, but make it believable by remembering the fact Neville isn't the subject of the Prophecy. Don't make him a God by defeating the most powerful wizard alive(Voldemort) just because he can kick ass. So could Dumbledore look where it got him.

 

It's not everyday that I ask someone on DLP this, but God, how dumb can you get? Or did you even read the books at all?

Voldemort lost...because he was incompetent? You make me laugh. So an incompetent wizard can defeat the most powerful surviving Order members/teachers as easily as brushing off a fly? What would that make Neville? A goddamn no-good useless Squib?

Harry is no powerhouse, but he is certainly more talented and powerful than Neville. If Neville faced off with Voldemort, he will die. In a few minutes flat. If Harry isn't powerhouse, then Neville of all people is most certainly not either. But Voldemort is not just a powerhouse, but the most powerful wizard alive (or at least in Britain). End of story.

I'm tired of repeating myself, so just take a good long read at my earlier post. And use your goddamn brains before posting shit like what you did. But if you want to remain delusional, go ahead. Because that's what you are, from what I can tell.

 

I thought DLP was a head above the average fangirl site. I was wrong but even you got to see that Voldemort turned out to be a complete joke.

 

No, it is actually your head that is below ours, approximately level with Neville Longbottom's pelvis.

What raises DLP's head above the average - in fact all - fangirl sites is that we aren't fanboys. You've simply transferred idolization of Ginny Weasley to Neville Longbottom, and came here expecting the same from this forum. There's no transfer. In the collective sense (freaks do exist) the forum gives every character its due. No more, no less.

 

Go read the Saving Conner series. Check out Indigena Yaxley. I'll even give you a link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2836413/70/Wind_That_Shakes_the_Seas_and_Stars That's what I imagine Neville as doing.

 

Yes, Voldemort is quite a poor villain, but in terms of magical power, he is so far above Neville's level that even if the latter trains for a hundred years, he can never hope to defeat Voldemort. Surely even you can understand this. If you can't, then I'm afraid the average IQ level of DLP has dropped quite significantly since you became a member.

YOU are the complete joke for proclaiming this: "He will lose again if the focus of the story changed to Neville." Surely you realised that Voldemort lost his "duel" with Harry only because Harry was the true master of the Elder Wand. I've stated this before, let me do it one last time. If Voldemort had picked any wand other than the Elder Wand, Harry would have died. With the Horcrux connection between Harry and Voldemort shattered and his holly wand destroyed anyway, his narrow escape in the aerial battle won't happen again. The Killing Curse would have gone on unimpeded (cannot be blocked non-physically) and killed Harry.

If Neville was in Harry's position? Without the protection of such deus ex machina, Neville won't even have a chance. Perish the thought. You can laugh at Voldemort for being written to be rather stupid in some of his actions (GoF comes into mind), but if you seriously think Neville can defeat him, then all I ask is this: What crack have you been smoking? Because it's either that, or you're reading a completely different book from the rest of us.

I urge you to read the books carefully before you come on here and spout utter rubbish like Neville being able to defeat Voldemort.

And Belerdorhan, what you imagine him to be doing is just that, your imagination. It's not reality, but fanon. In canon, Neville Longbottom is a wizard shown to possess extraordinary amount of courage, but is otherwise rather average in power and intelligence. Most of his actions (especially the one with Nagini) can not only described as brave, but also rash, and poorly thought-out (that is assuming he even thought through what he was doing).

 

I can see Neville defeating Voldermort... if you go completely against canon, ie into an AU far removed from the books. Even then I would never think it would be because of raw talent, but constant work on his part, something like Unsung Hero, only with Neville instead of Harry.

Canon Neville would be screwed before he stuttered out a "hi". While he does have his good points he's nowhere near that good.

By all means write your story, but I would recommend making it very AU.

 

Exactly. And if you go completely against the canon, anyone can defeat Lord Voldemort. In a massively AU world, Ron Weasley would be able to defeat Voldemort. Hell, Colin Creevey or Ernie Macmillan would be able to as well. Hermione would be kicking his butt for shits and giggles. But note the phrase, "massively AU world". It's not reality. It's not canon, but pure dreams/delusions of fandom. In canon, Creevey, Macmillan, Longbottom and Hermione would be killed so fast it wouldn't even be funny (Actually, it would, but I digress). That is considering they can even get past the more powerful Death Eaters like Bella, which I quite doubt.

 

Indeed. But thats the only way this guys going to get the satisfaction of a Super!Neville story.

All things considered I would like to see Voldie killed by Mrs. Norris. It would amusing....

 

That's inspiring...

Harry huddled in a corner, back pressed up against the stone. He could only look on in horror as Voldemort picked up his wand and swished it, just as Harry had in Ollivander's store so long ago.

Instead of red and gold sparks which jumped high and produced a feeling of warmth, this swish created dull black lines and the same cold presence as dementors.

Voldemort's lips curved into a sick imitation of a smile, and he turned towards the few remaining survivors of the Hogwarts Massacre.

"Avada Kedavra," he said quietly, almost lazily and Filch dropped to the ground, lifeless eyes staring up through a hole in the ceiling.

Voldemort laughed mercilessly and stalked towards Harry, Harry's wand raised high in the air. There was no laziness now, all his concentration was on Harry as he prepared to cast the third unforgivable.

A dark brown blur streaked past Voldemort's legs, heading towards the fallen caretaker, but tripping Voldemort on the way.

With a high and unmanly shriek Voldemort landed on his stomach, eyes staring toward the ceiling. Any normal human would have died from the broken neck, but thanks to his 'improvements' Voldemort was just paralysed, and so was kept for the rest of time as an Auror training dummy.

Filch sat up, and clasped his cat to his chest. The-man-who-lived and the-cat-who-defeated-you-know-who lived happily ever after, and Harry, who spent his enormous family fortune on the fight against Voldemort, ended up taking Hagrid's place as gamekeeper. Hagrid didn't need it anymore, as he became a Wizarding porn star and Narcissa Black's toy boy.

The End