Challenge Era: Would work post-GOF, post-OotP or post-HBP.

Summary: Harry realises what a bad life he has. He blames God for his woes, and decides to fight God in all his forms for the rest of his life. After many years of research into the matter and generally growing up and coming into his power, Harry discovers a way to breach the gap between worlds, and starts a massive war spanning many worlds in an attempt to destroy God, His Dark Materials style.

How it ends and pans out is up to the author.

You could make the resistance against God a futile effort, and could end the story with Harry being defeated and bound at the feet of God, yet still refusing to capitulate and taking a moral stand against the authoritarian regime that is God, ending up with him being thrown into hell.

Or you could end it with Harry killing God (and taking his place?).

Or whatever you can come up with.


Variables:

Religion: Use Christianity, make up your own for the Wizarding world, do whatever you want. Maybe the current thread on God and HP in FanFic discussion can help you.

Voldemort: He could have been defeated and this takes place after that, or Harry could join forces with him against God. The "other" in the prophesy could be God...

Crossover: Is variable. You could make it a crossover in that it only steals a few themes and ideas, or you could increase the crossover and have more HDM elements. Maybe Harry could join Lord Asriel? To stop God's side from being too weak I'd probably make Angels more powerful than Pullman makes them.

 

Damn, it's been a really long while since I read His Dark Materials.

Anyway, in order for the story to be interesting, Harry must have enemies. I'd rather have for example Voldemort trying to destroy God and the boundaries between worlds; Harry realize this and decide to stop him... that is until he learns that God isn't as good as he used to think, and then search for a way to destroy them both, with the help of Luna Lovegood... and fit somewhere in there the Dust which will help them somehow to achieve victory.

And, maybe, make Harry not-so-dark this time, so we get to see a few Pullman's themes from His Dark Materials such as love, Harry discovering 'innocence', etc.

Aside from that, I don't really see how to make a real and believable crossover.

 

The idea of Harry and Voldemort ganging up to fight God is amusing, but it is entirely possible that Voldemort is one of God's Agents. After all, the Magisterium shows just how radical people can be with religion.

Fanatical Christian Tom Riddle is visited by an Angel who still works for God, who tells him of great gifts he will be given to take cleanse the Earth of Sinners. This "Gift" is actually Magic, but he'd never before used it in his life (accidental or not). Seeing the sins of the muggle world at large, he grows to detest Muggles, and as such begins his immortal quest to rid the Earth of those who sin.

I've just had athought- in Lyra's world human's and witches have daemons to represent their souls whilst the Armoured Bears have their Armour. In Will's (ours) their isn't a physical thing that can be connected to our soul, and the Mulefa have the wheel-pods to represent theirs.

It's entirely possible that a wizard's and witch's animagus form is that which their daemon would be.

 

Entirely possible. Another interesting idea would be introducing Dementors to worlds with external souls.

 

I always thought Dementors were similar to spectors.

 

Maybe a war on both God and Lucifer--perhaps a Constantine HP crossover?

 

Why not make them two names for the same evil? For that matter, why not have Harry become Lord Asriel?

 

I could see this taking two directions:

1) The crossover occurs at a young age. Perhaps pre-adolescent Harry stumbled upon a window into Citta'gazze, reached a world with witches, and developed his talents with them?

2) Crossover occurs after Harry defeats Voldemort. He'd be at the prime of his power, respected, and in posession of lots of resources. Perhaps he'll go on a crusade to destroy death, as I believe Lord Asriel once referred to it. It can be made canon-compliant if the deathly hallows are somehow given a special significance, etc.


Either way, this is a really fascinating idea.

 

If we go post-DH, Lyra and Harry have each collected a set of three powerful items. Harry has the Hallows, and Lyra has the Book-Title Items (The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, and The Amber Spyglass). The number six is an arithmantically significant number, but seven is the most powerful. What if Lyra and that kid with the Knife meet HP, compare shiny magical toys, and realize they've got 6/7 of the power to destroy Death (the malevolent entity, not the biological event)? The first parts of the story can be post-canon for both, but then they meet, probably in Citta'gaze. Compass, Knife, Spyglass, Cloak, Wand, Stone, and...?

 

This is made of condensed win. It would, however, require a more down to earth rendition of Lord Asriel (Harry), to make a story following him more interesting. I suggest that Harry should gather his forces through a combination of charisma and judicious use of the Imperious curse, as opposed to pure charisma as in HDM.

 

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Ive had ideas on several ways to start a story like this. And while I'd enjoy writing them, I'm more interested in finishing my next Dresden Chapter so: Damn you Taure. Damn you to hell.

 

I've wanted to write a HP/HDM crossover for so long, but I can't seem to be able to make it work.

If it is set after The AmberSpy glass, then isn't the authority distroyed already? It would need another angle, somehow the same but differant... Religion still being the theme and all, otherwise it would just be re-writing His Dark Materials.

It could always be done with an AU Harry Potter... Maybe Petunia and Vernon take Harry to Church from a young age. A bible bashing Harry is created, one who hates magic and everything to do with it. (it being evil and all) You could some how span that to disrupting the universe... Maybe have Harry go on a quest to find The Authority to ask him to get rid of his magic, only for him to find that the authority is distroyed already and maybe try and take his place... or he could run into others and slowly learn the truth about how the authority was. I'm not sure, I'm just rambling of ideas. A young Harry goes on one of those learning missions full of fighting and wars... the link in his brain could even notify Voldermort to the lack of authority and Voldy could want to take over....

The idea of Animagus being a form of your demon occured to me also and it also raised another question. If it were true and a young wizard or witch, below the age of puberty managed to become an amimagus would it mean that their form would not be fixed?

 

I think it would be best to go highly AU, keeping totally canon compliant to all books in both worlds would destroy all conflict. I'd start off early in the time lines, and make sure to make some changes to keep things interesting and fun.

The original idea is outstanding, I'd definitely read it.

What if the Killing Curse works by severing the link between a person and it's demon? Just wondering.

 

Then it wouldn't be the killing curse, but the daemon-cutting curse. Asking by what process the Killing curse kills people is a category mistake. It's just a curse with the effect of making a person dead. It's like asking by what process the Jelly-Legs Jinx works - there isn't one, it just makes a person's legs jelly-like, by magic.

With that aside, people who have had their daemon's separated don't die immediately like the killing curse kills people immediately.


Also, I may take this idea up myself. Maybe with the Harry-is-Lord-Asriel twist.