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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Methene, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. Drake

    Drake Seventh Year

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    I think Tinn has given most likely scenario out of all. I'm also interested in this fic that you've written this all up for, do you have a likely release date? And what's it about?
     
  2. Tinn Tam

    Tinn Tam Review Goddess Retired Staff

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    ... "Likely release date" sounds like a big joke as far as any of my stories/chapters are concerned. Here's what I can say: the story in question, Reed in a Storm, is supposed to be released after I'm finished with my currently active WIP (6 or 7 chapters to go). It'll be post-DH, epilogue disregarded, and Harry/Gabrielle.

    The rest of the plot is a little complicated -- although there's a first draft of the prologue somewhere in WBA. Have to get off the comp now, but if you search "Reed in a storm" as a thread title you should find it.

    EDIT: Here it is. First draft, been edited and beta'ed since then.


    Oh, and Methene: lol, "Mitterrand"? Did you choose the name (ex-French president) on purpose or...?
     
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  3. Methene

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    I was looking for a French surname, and the ex-president was the first to jump to mind.

    I am looking forward to seeing your portrayal of Veelas in your story. The association of Veelas with Amazons seems viable although I don't see Veelas having the same martial attitudes. Perhaps power through different means, eh?
     
  4. malaga

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    What if the veela gene is a secondary trait if they have the Y chromosone?

    This would lead to male or half veela, if a full female (XX) veela bred with a male (XY) veela then they had a boy, it would have none of the characteristics of the veela (allure, fire ball throwing, avian form) but would look like a normal (though probably handsome, as even without allure, veelas would be beautiful) human being.

    If then this boy bred with a human, and they had a girl, it would be a quarter veela, like Fleur.

    The only flaw is that we've always assumed that Fleur's mother was the part veela. But why? Sure, she's a beautiful blonde woman, but I don't think that there has been evidence of her being especially alluring, and if a male veela loved a human, then she'd have to be gorgeous for him not to pick a veela over her.

    Damn, I probably should have spent less time on this and more on my Fleur/Harry story, but I have writers block! Please don't hit me with the cane Methene!
     
  5. Ascania

    Ascania Second Year

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    Or maybe the veela-gene is incapable of expressing itself in a male and stays dormant. To all means and purposes (except breeding and producing a female offspring that shows her veela ancestry again) the son of a veela is human.
    Gets rid of all this half-veela, male veela moronitude.
     
  6. Methene

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    It could be the opposite of hemoglobin. If I am correct in my assumptions, the gene is carried by women only, but it only manifests itself in males. I seem to recall that from a movie about Anastasia, but feel free to contradict me.

    I think Fleur's mother being half-Veela, with her grandmother being a full Veela is ingrained into our minds due to fanon. I don't think canon is actually firm on this. I have to check the Lexicon about it.

    No worries Malaga, take your time with the story...
     
  7. Tinn Tam

    Tinn Tam Review Goddess Retired Staff

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    From the description of Fleur's parents, I'd say it's almost certainly canon (which, at least, proves my interpretation wrong).

    And what you're talking about is hemophilia -- a genetic disorder said to be "sex-linked", transmitted by women (and males, if they survive long enough to get married and have daughters, who will be rarely sick but will carry the mutant gene), but normally only males develop the disease. Anastasia's younger brother had that, and if I recall correctly, Rasputin wormed his way into the good graces of the tsar's wife by curing him (or causing his symptoms to improve, at least).
     
  8. Skeletaure

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    On the subject of Veela, many people seem to have forgotten about a large part of their nature.

    Though they are of course very beautiful all the time, and their presence encourages men to make ridiculous claims (Ron inventing a broomstick that can fly to Jupiter), it's only when they dance that the full-blown effect of their attraction comes into play. Notice that Harry is not effected by the presence of Veela (he doesn't make any claims about inventing broomsticks) but he is effected by their dancing - he was going to jump off the top box at the Quidditch World Cup. And this is the guy who can resist the Imperius.

    Personally, I'd like to see the dancing in fics more (or at least in fics with Veela in).
     
  9. Warlocke

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    You can't forget two important details, though.

    A: The sheer number of veela present at the World Cup. If one single partial veela, like Fleur, can transform many of the hogwarts males into babbling idiots with her mere presence, then what would a whole group of them do to Harry?

    B: He wasn't aware of what was happening at the World Cup, nor did he know what a veela was; not until afterwards. There's a big difference between resisting something you're expecting and falling prey to something you didn't know was there. Really, if Moody had cast the Imperius on Harry without Harry being aware of it, might Harry not have shrugged and given in to the impulse to jump on his desk? If he didn't suspect his mind was being infiltrated, why resist?

    I don't think we have enough evidence to assume that dancing is part of the veela allure. Not any more than it is for ordinary female allure in general, anyway. I mean, what's sexier; an ordinary woman waiting in line at the bank or that same woman doing a blatantly sensual dance?
    The simplest answer is that the veela at the Cup 'turned on/up' their allure when they started to dance as part of the performance.

    It's possible that the dance is the real source of their allure, but I wouldn't make the leap to saying it's canon or anything. On the other hand, if an author wants to make that a big part of the veela in their story, there's certainly no harm in it (unless they write a crappy story, but that goes without saying :D). Hey, more dancing veela can't be bad, right?
     
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