You guys are taking the shipping war a little bit too seriously. Calm the fuck down. Less shipping, more buttkicking for me, please.

 

Meciel can never be redeemed... She committed an unforgivable sin against God and therefore cannot repent, or seek redemption

So hot Harry/Meciel action can always happen

EDIT:

More ass kicking is always good

 

Needs more Meciel smut.

 

I have to say Yak, you do point out something very interesting. I have a feeling though, that even if Meciel did leave Harry, she would at least leave an imprint of herself.

 

I honestly don't think it's possible for Meciel to be redeemed. But the thought of one of the shdow copies being left behind has always confused me. In Dresden canon when the snake summoner got sepperated from his coin he gave no indication of a shadow being left behind. Same with Harry being seperated back in Denarian Renegade if I remember correctly. So what are the requirements for a shadow to be left behind.

 

It is something the fallen chooses to leave behind, and I remember Meciel leaving something in Renegade. For Dresden it was to entice him to get the real thing and for Harry I think it was just to help him get it back. I don't think the snakeman's fallen thought there was any chance of that happening for him.

 

My sentiments excactly, Shezza wouldn't be cruel enough to do that. Right Shezza? However, I will give credit to Yak for bringing up a good point. The thing is do you really think Amanda, who has a mere crush on Harry, is better than Meciel as someone Harry can have a equal relationship with?

Not only can it happen, It needs happen, I'm not beyond begging Shezza.

Good Point Sir! I will stop now, and eagerly anticipate the Umbridge torture.

 

O.O

Hmm. Seemed strange seeing everything from Dolores' point of view. Now if we could only get Harry's to clarify some things...

Nice update Shezza. Loving the fast update rate

Edit: Seeing how I am the first to reply, I simply must please my other half, made of all things fan boy.

Ahem.

HARRY/AMANDA FTW!

That is all. Pardon the screaming.

 

You know, I wouldn't really mind Harry/Amanda/Meciel. If he can't have just one, then let him have both.

Anyway, I think it was too obvious Harry's done it.

Now that I think about it... why do so many authors forget about Obliviation?

 

But he left the guilty wand - Malfoy's - at the scene of the crime. They have no proof it was Harry, and some small evidence pointing to Malfoy.

I find this extremely ironic after reading a page of people argue over the shipping in your story. If you can inspire that kind of feeling in your reader, then I'd say that you've successfully written romance.

I'd go so far as to say that DR/DK are the best romance fics I've ever read.

 

That is odd, but if she was obliviated here, that would defeat the point.

Harry wanted to scare her, and hurt her. He also wanted to get Malfoy in trouble. If she doesn't remember being attacked, then what would happen when she went back to look for the wand?Nothing. She would just notice it and return it to Malfoy.

I agree with you about the obviousness, however when your students all hate you, if someone throws a rock at you, you don't know who it was. The same applies here. Also, as she doesn't know about Meciel, so why would she suspect Harry?

 

Harry probably wouldn't mind, either, but Meciel most likely would. Unless they make Amanda their (love) slave or something...

Because he's a "Dark Wizard" in her mind (and in reality too, but she doesn't know that ), and because she doesn't use logic very often. Once she thinks a specific person did it, no matter what the evidence says, that person did it.
(That's the basic Umbridge character. I wouldn't dream of knowing what Shezza will make of her here though)

 

It has something to do with the development of the romance, I'm sure.

Normally an author states their pairing, and works to develop it.

Here, Shezza just teases us, by showing that the possibility for the pairing is possible, but nothing is definite yet. It helps the reader generate their own possibilities, based on their preferences.


I'm a fluff addict, and rarely have I wanted a ship to go this way, more than any other. So, yes. I guess DR/DK can be classified as a romance.

I support all that lnky has said.

 

I must agree that the way Harry's attack was done was a bit obvious. I mean sure, Harry did leave Malfoys wand at the scene but all Umbridge will need to do is interrogate Malfoy and learn that Harry conventiently "bumped" into him around the same time that he lost his wand. It won't take a rocket scientist to figure things out since Umbridge herself saw Harry leaving the dungeons(which will partly atleast confirm Malfoys story).

For that matter, why would Malfoy have left his wand behind. It is far too obviously a plant to frame Malfoy the way it is now. Maybe this would have been more believable if Harry had stuck around long enough to give the impression that he had to flee in haste or something like that? Maybe even let himself get into a fight with whoever would find him&Umbridge and pretend to lose the wand in a duel and then fleeing? Dunno.

This whole thing is especially unbeliavable since Malfoy does not have any real reason to attack Umbridge. He is a known opponent of Harry afterall who is Umbridges real target. Also Malfoy Senior has not been yet revealed as death eater and as such he is still in good graces with the ministry so Umbridge has probably not done anything to offend the younger Malfoy. Without real solid evidence it would be hard to swallow people truly believing it was Malfoy. In truth I would have thought that Meciel atleast would have come up with something more subtle that could not be so easily traced back.

For instance, why could Harry not have recruited Amanda and had her masquerading as him with one of Meciels illusions or something. If Harry had been seen in the middle of the great hall during the attack then it would have made it harder for Harry to be caught since he would have an alibi. You have already made it clear that Amanda hates Umbridge so I doubt she would have had problems helping. Or for that matter, if Meciel is so good at illusions like you have said then why did Harry not look like Malfoy during the attack?

I suppose after all the talk of covert operations and such I would have expected something a bit more clever/subtle from Harry/Meciel than just blasting Umbridge and leaving Malfoys wand behind. For that matter, what stopped Harry from doing something a bit more permanent? I doubt Dumbledore would be all that horrified if Harry had left Umbridge with say a permanent limp or something like that. Harry certainly would not have moral problems doing that and I cannot see Meciel stopping him.

I dunno. Maybe you have somekind of clever and unexpected followup planned in the next chapter that will explain everything. But right now, I hate to say this, but the way it is now, Harry's attack does not seem all that brilliant.

 

Shezza:

It's important that you understand that "romance" is not just inclusive of flirting, teasing, mushy talk, and acts of love. You show that Harry (at some level) is caring of Amanda, and that Meciel, (at some level) loves Harry. This alone is enough to "satisfy" romance – and that is if we do not include the teasing/flirting that occurs between Meciel and Harry, and the obvious infatuation Amanda has with Harry.

What I've seen in this series so far is that you are capable of writing subtle relationships. Harry's not snogging anyone. He's not throwing himself before death to save his loved ones –– we're not even really sure how much Harry really cares –– this is superior to the common "romance" of most stories.

Much of the time, the transition from friendship to intamacy is invisible.

 

What exactly is Amanda's status in Hogwarts? Sure she's not some kind of american ambassador but I'd have expected Umbridge even with her racist little brain to understand not to unduly antagonize her. Amanda does have a powerful family after all not to mention the obvious prestige issue. The most ancient school of Hogwarts treated honoured guests like trash?

 

Amanda's just a transfer student, she's not an honored guest at all. Just an ordinary student.

 

And she is a muggleborn

 

Yeah, that could be part of it. The other half is probably her "trying to impress Harry" by pissing off somebody he hates. Umbridge probably sees that and is looking to hit Harry from that angle.

 

I wonder what Harry would really think about that? Would he be pissed at Umbridge for using "his" torture doll? After all Harry seems to take a bit of joy out of roughing Amanda up during their training sessions. Or would he be disgusted with Amanda for being stupid and getting in Umbridge's detentions?

Or would he laugh himself silly that she is "trying to impress Harry" ?