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Dexter!Harry and Conquer!Harry

Discussion in 'Challenges' started by mbond98, Apr 23, 2008.

  1. mbond98

    mbond98 Seventh Year

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    The Deposed Dark Lord of Negrep´s Challenges 1 & 2

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    Challenge #1 :

    Summery: Based on the TV show, Dexter. Harry is raised to hunt and kill criminals.

    Rules (flexible -- most are just for quality-control):
    * Either Dumbledore raises him, gives him to Moody, or an OC. The parental figure must be flawed, physically and mentally.

    * Harry is an Auror, and maybe works in the magical equivalent to forensics, but it MUST NOT resemble the TV series in ANY OTHER WAY. EDIT: After seeing some comments, I agree: Harry the Sociopath would be awesome, and is an exception.

    * Harry DOES NOT feel guilty about killing people, but may feel guilty about not feeling guilty.

    * Harry may be in any Hogwarts house you wish, or attend another school.

    * This MUST take place DURING or SHORTLY AFTER the Second War with Voldemort. Think how people act; are they afraid about the Death Eaters, and other killers, disappearing?

    * Harry must be METICULOUS in covering evidence. Otherwise, he'd be caught easily.

    * Harry DOES NOT find his way back to the light. Ever.

    * Harry will slowly sink deeper, and deeper into madness. He may realize it, and the action may be attempting to stop this.

    * The story can end three ways:

    a.) Harry dies.

    b.) Harry is caught, thrown into Azkaban, and does not escape. Ever.

    c. ) Your own. Please fill with blood.

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    Challenge #2

    Summery: Harry seeks to rule the world.

    Rules (flexible -- most are just for quality control.):

    * Know your geography.

    * Include strategy, i.e., don't fight a ground war in Asia.

    * Invent some technology for both sides: broom fighters and bombers, ships, subterranean vessels, whatever strikes your fancy.

    * Don't be afraid to kill off main characters.

    * Harry will probably need allies.

    * Divide and Conquer. Veni, Vedi, Vichi.

    * Invent some gory battle spells.

    * Destroy some cities.

    * Have different branches of Harry's military.

    * Is Harry doing this out of righteous anger? What are peoples motivations?

    * Describe views from the front lines, and the other side.

    * Spells are latin for a reason; the pronunciation and meaning won't change. The same is not true for English or French. Search 'english to latin translation' on Google when you make spells.

    * #1 rule; be original.

    * #2 rule: get a Beta.

    * Harry doesn't have to succeed, but he has to come close.

    * Harry is sane. He wants to rule because of ambition, unlike in Harry's Madness, where the explanation is 'cuz haiiry went mad'.

    * Harry may start with political domination, but it eventually dissolves into military conflict.

    * Harry 's war must start in England.

    * If all else fails, think this; What would DLP say?

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    I'm not much of a writer, but I really want to read these. If, by a stroke of luck, you respond, please post a link here.

    4/23 : Added addendum to a Dexter rule, expanded Conquer.
     
    Last edited: Apr 24, 2008
  2. Lyndon Eye

    Lyndon Eye Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    So, challenge 1 is basically Harry with Anti-Social Disorder?

    Could be interesting, especially if you tell it from a viewpoint inside Harry's head, where you can really explore his (ir)rational thought processes.

    Challenge 2 is incredibly broad and lacks any sort of detail. You may want to refine it a bit.
     
  3. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Harry as a sociopath is something I have been thinking about for a while now, but I can't get my head around his thought processes enough for me to actually write it. Guess I'm not sociopathic enough to understand him :p.

    Sounds interesting though, and it would be a good read if it's done right.

    Aekiel
     
  4. Mindless

    Mindless Big Boss DLP Supporter

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    Damn straight. I'd love to read a real killer!Harry, as oppose to Evil!Harry or some such. Someone who doesn't take pride or pleasure in killing you; they simply kill you, no regret, remorse, or emotion.

    Ninja Edit: 700th post... And I'm still an Order Member. When does that change, anyhow?
     
  5. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    The first task sounds really cool. I'm a big fan of Dexter and I sense goodies coming this way.

    The second one is interesting, but it lacks something.
     
  6. Apothem

    Apothem Third Year

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    So Harry wouldn't be a vigilante, like Dexter? You say that he wouldn't find his way back to the light, ever, and yet, by killing criminals rather than innocent people, he is light. It would only when he sank completely into madness, that he would kill innocents.

    I may take a stab at the first idea, though. I'm not certain if I could write it well, but I'll give it a shot.
     
  7. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    Just because he kills dark people doesn't make him light.
     
  8. Apothem

    Apothem Third Year

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    Choosing to kill those that deserve it, rather than unleashing his wrath upon innocents isn't light?

    He makes a conscious choice. It's not just a huge coincidence that he NEVER kills innocents.
     
  9. Krogan

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    This is pretty interesting but I swear Ive seen this challenge before on here somewhere
     
  10. mbond98

    mbond98 Seventh Year

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  11. Apothem

    Apothem Third Year

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    Ah, okay, I get you. Anyways, part one of chapter one Dexter!Harry is in Work By Authors.

    And, I meant the same thing.

    I'm leaning towards him having a battle with himself, and his insanity, and winning. He'll not stop killing, but he'll be able to live a relatively normal life, otherwise.
     
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  12. mbond98

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    You've certainly challenged yourself. Psychological thrillers are, quite possible, the hardest stories to write. Recommended Reading: Stronger than Hope.
     
  13. Mechanicalchrist

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    mbond98 Seventh Year

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    Drat. I apologize to Seraph.

    P.S. Mechanicalchrist, have you ever had the pleasure of meeting Robo Jesus?
     
  15. Grubdubdub

    Grubdubdub Supreme Mugwump

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    Let's say Mad-Eye is in between light and dark. Sure, he will kill dark people with no remorse, but not if is there's a choice. Harry however, or at least Dexter, have no intention of putting them in Azkaban. He kills because he is a psychopath, and chose to kill dark people because the way he was raised.
    He is not light, but he is on the light side... does that make sense?
     
  16. lucifer

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    I think I remember hearing that psychopath/serial killers, have a kinda mental void, that they go into so they can function in a society.
     
  17. Solomon

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    Nah. Antisocial Personality Disorder is actually pretty simple. Sufferers of it just have no conscience, no guilt. That's all the disease really does, except somehow make them charming.

    I really need to ask my Psych teacher to tell me precisely how the disease makes them charming.
     
  18. Dirk Diggory

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    That's oversimplifying. It's closer to an extreme form of narcissism, like they are unable to view others as beings equal to them and therefore regard them like we regard ants.

    And it doesn't make them charming. Most of the APD people I've met have been rather shockingly unpleasant individuals. A subset can use their distance from normal feelings to manipulate others when they want something, though. Dexter is a really awesome character but not very realistic.
     
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  19. Solomon

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    Uh huh. I'm going to go ahead and trust my psych teacher over you. Person I know with a doctorate in Psychology > random guy on the internet in regards to this kind of thing.
     
  20. Longinus

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    It`s veni vidi vici ;)
     
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