Voldemort definitely killed Frank personally.

He had Peter kill Cedric with his wand, since Cedric's shade came out of the wand when the Priori Incantatem happened.

 

EDIT: Sion beat me to it >_>

Bertha Jorkins would have to have been done by Voldemort to create the Horcrux, so we know for certain that baby form Voldemort did do more then plan, if Frank Bryce doesn't convince you.


On the subject of the chapter, I can safely say that not much happened. I realize not much was supposed to, merely an observation. Dumbledore asking for help from Harry seemed a little contrived since they are not supposed to have any relationship whatsoever in this.

Fleur's depression was a bit here and there - realistic in characters, but not what I've pictured of her thus far - so I'm a bit yay and nay with that. Overall, it is inconsequental unless Fleur does become emo after depressing herself about Harry continually, which, I hope, is something nobody ever does. I have more faith in the author to not do that, so all is good.

Seeing as this was a mainly set-up/in-between/filler chapter, we'll have to wait to see the importance of the non-Barty Crouch Jr. related sections.

Can't wait for the next one.

 

Uh...I always wondered...

How could Voldemort raise a wand if he was essentially in a baby's body?

 

Because it's a piece of hollowed out thin wood?

I'm more curious about how he was able to use some of the stronger spells without jeopardizing his freaky little baby body.

 

Because the casting of spells does not depend on the strength of your physical body but upon your magical skill, which Voldemort has a great deal of? Voldemort's mind was still completely intact - it was only his body that was weakened.

 

One would think that a person's magical core would grow as they physically mature though, or else there'd be no need to worry about when one started schooling, or when someone 'magically matures'.

Whatever it is in canon, I am running off the theory that, while in his little conjured homunculos of a body, he is unable to perform any amazing feats of magic, much like the killing curse or the cruciatus curse. So Pettigrew is gdoing everything for him.

In that sense, he was probably better off as a spirit or shade, but heI think needed to be in some sort of body to make sure the resurrection ritual was a success.
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His core is the only thing sustaining his wannabe-Chucky body, though. You would think that that would drain a considerable amount of his magic and concentration to booy. So, once again, I'm with Joe on this particular issue.

 

Were you familiar with my views on magical theory, you'd know that I possess a pathological hate of the idea of magical cores, and do not follow the idea that a wizards magic is quantifiable, and thus cannot be drained.

I would say that a wizard can no more run out of his wizardry than a Muggle could run out of "Mugglery". Magic isn't just a power a wizard has access to: it's part of who they are.

Also, I don't think it is Voldemort himself sustaining his physical body. From what we see in canon, it's Nagini's milk.

 

I would point out that you seem to base your story on a magical theory that ignore magical maturation. Harry is intellectually gifted and therefore magically gifted is how it seems to work. He can perform 7th year material with the body of a second year (or whatever).

For a Muggle, physical and intellectual maturation are partially independent, and if one were to become physically crippled, they would not necessarily be mentally so. It is obvious though that part of the point for Voldemort to have the crippled body is to be able to do magic, and have a more stable form than if he were possessing someone/thing, as well as for the ritual, which is only useful later. I think its clear the spirit form is the worst for him, but I can't see that the body is actually needed for the rebirth.

"I was as powerless as the weakest creature alive, and without the means to help myself... for I had no body, and every spell that might have helped me required the use of a wand..."

"I sometimes inhabited animals - snakes, of course, being my preference - but I was little better off inside them than as pure spirit, for their bodies were ill adapted to perform magic..."

Of Bertha Jorkins: "She told me many things... but the means I used to break the Memory Charm upon her were powerful (...)"

"Wormtail was able to follow the instructions I gave him, which would
return me to a rudimentary, weak body of my own, a body I would be able to inhabit while awaiting the essential ingredients for true rebirth... (...) I was soon returned to an almost human form, and strong enough to travel."

Also, I think Taure has a point on quantifiability. In any case, thinking of magic as some sort of water reserve with a steady replenishing source is very simplistic. The two obvious models we can refer to are physical and intellectual ability; it can also be entirely different. I can't recall any instance of a wizard being 'out' of magic, or magically tired.

 

No offence, but I don't much care what you think in regards to someone's magical core - the fact isn't relevant.

Muggle's have muscles and physical stamina, which is why we can't sprint at our top speeds for a kilometer, it's not possible, we'll tire out.

Magic has no physical presence, so it's hard to 'tire' out like our muscles would, or burn like our lungs would, so there is the concept of a magical core. I don't think it can be exercised like muscles or stamina, but each person has a unique amount of 'magic' in their core to exercise. If a wizard or witch were to use their magic for too long, they should tire out. Magic, in my opinion, is an alternate, or special, source of energy that should be limited in that it isn't endless and needs time to recover ones tired out (like a muscle).


What I'm trying to say is that their magical reserves don't 'run out', the wizard or witch just tires, like we would if we worked out for too long. Even if that isn't how it's seen in canon, it's how I see it in my story - AUs can be awesome like that.
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I'm gonna send your own comment right back at you: I don't much care what you think in regards to someone's magical core - the fact isn't relevant. I'm going to add that it's also incorrect though.

If you want to read more.

 

Yeah guess, I was off base there. Haven't read GoF for years and years. Still seems a bit ridiculous to me though that he can cast spells in his midget Homonculus form. Where does it say he turned Nagini into a horcrux there? I don't recall. Maybe I should get around to reading DH again...

 

You can throw my comments back at me when I post on a thread regarding your story, saying that I don't care for the theory in you put forward. At the moment, you've posted your 'alternate' theory regarding a topic I've got my mind set on, therefore, I don't care. I also don't care that you don't care about my views.

HP canon is not a story filled with very much magic-based action. Single spells here and there are showed to us being used, but not very often in action scenes. The only time I can really think of an exciting action sequence was in the Ministry with Dumbledore dueling Riddle, and even that wasn't for very long, so how do we know that one cannot suffer from exhaustion from casting too much magic in a short period of time? Much like one becomes physically tired from running a marathon.

The idea of someone being able to cast magic forever without becoming physically tired just doesn't make much sense, and it doesn't read well in a story that is definitely going to have a lot of magic based action scenes.

Am I saying that there must be a magical 'core' then? Probably not, just magic, nothing more, nothing less. I'm saying that there's more a physical and mental effort required for one to exert enough energy to cast spells.

Their 'magic levels' never decrease (like mana), instead, they just get tired from the constant mental and physical strain from drawing on one's magic, and need time to rest before continuing. As I said earlier, like a Marathon runner.

As I said, you can disagree with me, it's your right. I just don't care, it's not going to change anything.

 

That was in an interview, post-DH.

It certainly isn't, because you haven't actually included anything about magical cores (or magical theory in any real detail at all) in your story. So as far as Knowledge is Power canon goes, magical cores don't exist either

 

Ok on a more serious note than everything. I definitely think that Harry should get some fucking coke at his final feast at hogwarts..........I mean im just throwing that out there......Dumbeldore should do that for him. What do you think?

 

I hope you mean coca cola, because involving drugs, tabaco, cigarettes are never anything but unbearable failures

Cigars are acceptable.

 

I think that it would be a useless addition, that's what I think.

 

Wise Kai Shek is wise, that's what I think.

 

Quoted for Truth

 

Not bad, contains load of cliche-scenarios but still a pretty good read. The author might want to work on the summary though. It sure as hell turned me off the story when I first saw it....but that just might be me being me. *shrugs*

I just read my way upwards on this page, and I say, I agree with Taure about the nature of magic....though I always thought it more akin to skill and stamina.

I mean the more you work out, the better you are and the longer you can keep doing what you're doing. But after a while you will get exhausted. So it is with magic. Skill and Stamina.