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Rob Knox aka Marcus Belby is dead

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Methene, May 25, 2008.

  1. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Murder in general is pretty common in London, from what I've heard and seen on the news. It barely goes a week without some young person being killed in 'gang related violence'. Hell, I still remember a drive-by shooting of two young black girls with a submachine gun down in (I think) Manchester.

    Aekiel
     
  2. Xiph0

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    This kind of sucks, but there's a general rule of thumb they teach you in Basic - and that's basically that no one wins in a knife fight, the victor only loses less, aka, if both parties have knives you're pretty much going to get cut up - just hope you're not the dead one.

    There's a story that prior to the restrictive gun control measures they came out with, you could pretty safely walk through Harlem unarmed. The reasoning was muggings weren't nearly as common as they are now because there was a mentality within the community that everyone was armed in some way, and no one wanted to risk getting shot with a pocket pistol for a purse - take from it what you will, but I think it's something the UK is seriously lacking in.

    M.A.D on a societal scale.
     
  3. enembee

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    I'm a girl? How so?

    The fact that I think the world is a much better place without dicks who carry knives makes me a girl?

    Go felate a bayonet.
     
  4. Murton

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    Any WoW is too much Wow.
     
  5. Mirkwood

    Mirkwood Seventh Year

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    Sadly I agree after seeing what it did to someone at college. Some guy was top grades and then he found WoW and stayed at home playing it lol.
     
  6. Marsupial

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    You know, I should probably be offended by that, but I don't really meet the 'twat' qualification, so it's dropped to simple irritation.


    I carry one of these at all times, unless I'm at an airport. School is not an exception to that. If need be I can have it out, open, and ready to use in about 3 seconds.

    Yet, in the past 24 hours, I haven't killed, injured, maimed, or even threatened anyone. I never have, nor do I plan to.

    Just today, however, I've cut string to grid off unit squares, notched datum-point corner posts, cut 3x3 metre squares out of heavy plastic, and removed bamboo braces and duct tape from a half-assed attempt someone made at fixing a tent. Take a wider time frame, and I've used it for many more tasks. I carry a knife on a daily basis because I use a knife on a daily basis. Don't knock a perfectly good tool just because a few twats stab a few other twats every so often.

    Keep it up and I'll stab you, bitch. :rolleyes:
     
  7. J22

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    The government should base weapon carrying privileges on IQ, anyone above a certain IQ gets to carry a weapon. The higher your IQ the better your weapon. Chavs with small wooden sticks, Einstein with a Bazooka.
     
  8. Humbolt

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    That's a horrible idea. I've been told that I'm pretty smart, but I have a horrible temper. Most likely I would end up killing someone.

    In a perfect world we wouldn't need weapons at all. But since this isn't one I'll stick to a pocket knife.
     
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    Not at all what I meant. I meant people who carry knives. Not legitimately use them. As you well know.
     
  10. Tehan

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    When it comes to fighting, you can't put someone down with a knife without killing or crippling them. And in a lot of places going at someone with a knife gets you an automatic upgrade from assault to attempted murder. If you must carry around a weapon for self-defence, grab one of those telescoping batons. They're nifty.
     
  11. Marsupial

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    My point was that I carry a knife quite nearly everywhere regardless of whether or not I think I'll need it. I do admittedly need one reasonably often, but I carry one despite that, not because of it. Will I need my knife if I go to the grocery store? Doubtful. Is it in my pocket? Yes.


    Tehan:

    Point, but it loses something when both quotes are from the same person.

    In any event, both quotes are equally true; both are equally demonstrable. I would argue the 'tough guy' characterization though; the fact that I am capable of getting a knife out quickly (which is credited mainly to a rather nice knife; very little is actual skill on my part) doesn't mean I do so on a regular basis. It's pointless. For legitimate tasks, I'm rarely in that much of a hurry - it would be rather bad for my fingers if I was - and, in the event that I actually need protection, I'm pretty well fucked regardless. Even if I'm better armed than my attacker it's markedly easier to give in to a criminal/mugger's demands; the contents of my wallet are worth quite a bit less than court costs and a lawyer's fee.

     
  12. Tehan

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    ...my point was that they both came from the same person, you blinkering cockslot. Saying you can go from 0 to stab you in the face in three seconds, and then that you only use said stabby implement for cutting inanimate objects... schizophrenic, or trying to have your cake and eat it too?
     
  13. Marsupial

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    ...or possibly using contrast to make a point?


    Motivation aside, I'm pretty sure most of humanity is capable of reaching into a pocket, pulling something out, and flicking their thumb. Try it. Pull out your keys (or any other random object you have in your pocket), and then move your thumb half an inch left. See how long it takes you. There was a reason for this:
     
  14. Tehan

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    Then why mention it? Besides, aren't switchblades banned in a bunch of states over there?
     
  15. Darius

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    I don't see a problem with what he said...He can't talk about the practical uses of a knife and being able to open it quickly in the same post?

    Ok then...news to me.

    Not bothered that this guy died, just hoping they'll continue the trend and kill of everyone from the HP cast.
     
  16. Mirkwood

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    Hopefully grints next, hopefully he dies by a blimp crashing into him.
     
  17. Hari Seldon

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    Mmmm Some guy can't exercise self control so WoW is a bad?






    And Yes Any Mechanical knifes ( Spring Loaded ) or gravity dependant ( flick open ) aren't legal as far as i know.
     
  18. Skeletaure

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    Firstly, what kind of weird shit do you do at school?

    Secondly, most of the above tasks could have been done just as well, if not with greater ease, with a pair of scissors. Yet I don't see you carrying scissors around. In addition, most of the above tasks aren't really normal things that one gets up to in an average day, so I can only conclude that a) You do weird shit on a daily basis or b) you go out of you way to end up in situations where using your knife would be useful.

    Conclusions: You don't really need a knife, you just think it looks cool. Its apparent "usefulness" is just an excuse.

    There is no denying that in some jobs/lifestyles carrying a knife around is helpful. If you're Ray Mears, for example, and can construct a small city using only bamboo and a large knife. An average city schoolboy, however? Doubtful.
     
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  19. Xiph0

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    Actually, knives are multi-purpose and easy enough to stick in your pocket for whenever you need it, and *shock shock* some even come WITH scissors! Amazing, I know.
     
  20. Marsupial

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    Switchblades are illegal 99.9% of the time. Unless I'm greatly mistaken there's a loophole in the law if you've had one arm amputated, but that (fortunately) doesn't apply to me.

    A knife doesn't have to be a switchblade to be easily opened though, simply well designed and well taken care of. I use one with a knob on the blade for easy opening, and I keep it well oiled, thus all I need to do to open it is flick said knob left and slightly up.

    As to why I mentioned it, I repeat: I was using contrast (potential/actual) to make a point.

    Any knife which opens automatically is illegal, ie switchblades. IIRC, side opening spring assisted knives are legal, but not fully spring loaded ones. Switchblade style blades are illegal in both fully spring loaded and spring assisted forms. I have no idea what laws are here regarding gravity knives, but they are illegal in many places. The distinction in most cases, I believe, is that any knife which requires some manual pressure by the user on the blade is legal; all others are not.

    Archaeological field school for the summer makes a knife actively necessary. During the fall/spring semesters, studio art courses make it rather useful as well, particularly in sculpture courses. I actually did an autobody course in high school as well, (my car was/is shit, and I didn't want to pay for body work), and a knife is the single best tool on the planet for rough-shaping plastic filler.



    In order:

    You can't notch posts with scissors, and the bamboo deal was in such a position that scissors couldn't have reached. The string, scissors would've been easier, but the nearest known pair was about 100 yards away. The sheet plastic was legitimately heavy stuff, and, while scissors would work, they would dull much quicker and are much harder to resharpen when they go dull.

    Scissors have a tendency to stab you if you carry them in your pocket.

    I'll take choice 'a.' Believe me, I'm all too aware of it.
     
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