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electronic malfunctions in canon

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Jeffrey Strausser, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. Jeffrey Strausser

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    OK I've read in quite a few fanfictions that magic causes electronics to malfunction. Now I'm just wondering if anyone can tell me if this is true in canon. I don't remember there ever being a mention of it. So is the whole magic causes malfunctions in electronics a canon fact or a fandom creation?
     
  2. Jenkins

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    Is canon. Hermione says so in the 4th book when they're talking about how Rita Skeeter keeps getting stories on Harry. Harry mentions electronic bugs and beaver-bitch does her 'Haven't you read Hogwarts: A History you dumb fucks?' thing.
     
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    Only if there is ambient magic in the air.
     
  4. Blaise

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    In b4 Magical Theory whores.
     
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    Fix'd.

    /filler
     
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    I have a question. If this is the case why isnt the diagon alley part of london and black hole for electronics?
     
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    When I saw the headline I thought this thread would involve a news story where someone was claiming that when firing a canon it malfunctioned because of faulty electronics.

    Sidenote- Talk about your run-on sentences.
     
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    I could have sworn the electronic disturbance thing only happened in places of extremely high concentrations of magic (that is, only seems to happen at Hogwarts).
     
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    The ambient magic thing is actually Canon. Electronics only fail in places with lots of magic in the air, like Hogwarts.
     
  10. Jeffrey Strausser

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    What about places like wizarding homes? They wouldn't have as much magic as Hogwarts, but places like old manors might have old magic if they've been in the family for centuries. Do you think wizarding homes would have the same effect or is it only places of huge ambient and active magic like Hogwarts or the ministry?
     
  11. Aekiel

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    You're improving :D.

    If I'm remembering this right it doesn't mention ambient magic at all, just that the places where electronics fail are magical places, which has several meanings that fit better with the magic system than ambient magic (which we never see nor hear of in the books). Look up any of Taure's posts on this for a more in depth explanation.

    Also, don't we have a 21 page long discussion on this already? With a better spelt title too.
     
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  12. Jeffrey Strausser

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    Alright, thanks for the help. I'll check out Taure's posts
     
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    "All those substitutes for magic Muggles use- electricity, and computers and radar, and all those things- they all go haywire around Hogwarts, there's too much magic in the air."

    Quote taken from GOF. Hermione mentions the phrase "magic in the air" which I took to mean as ambient magic. She never said that it was the magical place itself that caused the electrical disruptions. It was the heavy magic permeating the air that caused them. As Hermione is well versed in Hogwarts: A History, I think we can take her word for it.
     
  14. Jeffrey Strausser

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    Sorry I don't have perfect grammar all day long or know that I can't pluralize(Oh yeah it's pluralized not pluralised oh great one of spelling and grammar) fanfictions(I've seen the word used enough). Also, sorry I don't triple check my forum posts.

    And I did a search for electronic malfunctions and magical effects on electricity and after many pages I didn't get a discussion on it so I posted the question. I saw a big thread on magical theory which seemed to be about how magic worked, not its effects on electronics. So no I didn't see a 21 page long discussion on it. Oh and I fixed the other typo for you. Though my title wasn't spelled wrong. electronic malfunctions in canon is spelled correctly. Sorry I didn't capitalize or make it a sentence.
     
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  15. Aekiel

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    Damn, my mistake on that, though electronics have been covered several times in the magical theory threads. Now onto the critiques.

    1) Pluralise is the British English spelling of the word.

    2) Just because it is used on a forum does not mean it conforms to grammar rules >_>.

    3) I don't triple check my forum posts either, but I still manage a good standard of spelling/grammar.

    4) Technically, spelt is just another form of spelled and as such can be used in its place. I'll admit I wasn't sure which to use so I just chose it arbitrarily.

    5) I meant punctuated properly, but I digress, I made a mistake. Capitalisation (British spelling) is something that is generally drilled into your head somewhere about the age of seven years old, why ignore it?
     
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    Also, remember in DH when Hermione casts those protection spells around the tent and Harry notices what looks like "shimmers from rising heat" or something. So yeah, protection spells like that probably are the same thing, and fuck up their '97-equivalent-iPizzles. Tape players or 8-tracks or whatever barbaric technology we used back then.
     
  17. Jeffrey Strausser

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    Alright Aekiel, I get it. My grammar isn't perfect, but neither is a lot of people's. Capitalization is a basic form of grammar and I didn't use it in my thread title. British spelling is fair enough, but I'm American and apparently the spell check for this site is as well, that's what pointed out those typos. I understand the grammar naziism. I hate stories with bad grammar and spelling, but I think it's a bit ridiculous to be that anal about a few mistakes on a thread. I admit I was asking for it in the wizard vs muggle thread, I thought it was a dumb discussion so i trolled it, but this was a serious question that I couldn't find an answer for when I searched. I read several pages of the magical theory discussion and didn't see anything about electronics in there. I just saw a bunch of stuff about how magic works and where it comes from. I'm sorry I didn't find what you seemed to have. I'll look harder next time.
     
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    It is....I mean to say that in diagon alley electronics probably don't work. Outside of the wards around the alley, I doubt there would be enough magic to cause electronics any problems.
     
  19. Aekiel

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    Actually, I'm only criticising because you seemed like a troll and I wanted to annoy someone :p. Anyway, I'm going to bed now so I'll stop. I'm not normally the grammar nazi on here. Just try to use proper spelling/grammar more often, we have a pretty strict system here so that the quality of members/fanfiction doesn't deteriorate. We even have a spell check for that very reason.
     
  20. Iztiak

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    Apparently a mod thought he seemed like a troll as well.

    Goodbye Strausser. :p
     
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