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Discussion in 'General Fics' started by Agnostics Puppet, Nov 10, 2008.

  1. Galleon

    Galleon DA Member

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    Very, very cool concept. I'm hoping Harry tells the Potter twins to shove it though. There's something about their characters that irks me.

    Still, I haven't looked this forward to an update in ages.
     
  2. Innomine

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    ORIGINALITY.

    Let me state that again, HOLY SHIT, ORIGINALITY.

    Wow, just for the idea, i'll read this to the end, something new is so welcome.

    Harry's parents come back, and they don't immediately love him and hug him and its all happity go fuckity time.

    YAY.

    Edit: Oh yeah, 4/5 from me. May move up to 5/5, when I see where it goes. But far too early to start it off with a 5/5 imo.
     
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  3. Goddessa39

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    The truth is that I don't really like it. BUT WAIT! It is a good idea for those who aren't stuck in their ways of thinking of Harry as, well... Harry Potter. I'll check back again and reread it. Very good chance that I will love it then.

    The idea, while not totally the absolute king of Newdom, has taken a refreshing turn. Hermione isn't shunning Harry, though there are plenty of arguments that could throw her either way. At the end, however, there is something promising for "Harry-as-in-the-child-Potters".

    I hate Dumbles. Wouldn't he have known their kid's name? And what about Moony and Padfoot??
     
  4. Lord Osiris

    Lord Osiris Auror

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    4/5 easy, this is oddly refreshing and enjoyable to read. Though its only one chapter i like the pace its set, if it keeps up should make for an awesome story.

    Im curious whether or not he'll keep the name Harry Potter, though i suppose technically he cant can he? Well i recon i'd get a laugh if he goes by Tom Riddle, would set up a nice little plot device, something like what Riddle could have been. Or he could just kill them all and keep the name Harry Potter.
     
  5. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    It's a refreshingly original premise that had me putting a story on alert for the first time in a year.

    Although the writing is a bit simplistic, it was barely noticeable (the way it should be).

    5/5
     
  6. Fimbulvintr

    Fimbulvintr Seventh Year

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    That's an important point I'm trying to elaborate on. At this point in the story, Harry cannot realistically reject the Potters' offer of help. Although I agree that there is something about the Potters' characters..... It could just be a side effect of knowing that the Potters had an easy life compared to Harry's crap he's had to endure. I'd rather not presume about chapters that haven't been posted yet, so far the Potters seem like nice people who've treated Harry relatively well and rejecting their help just makes Harry an asshole no matter how you look at it. After all, all the shit Harry's had to deal with isn't really the Potter's fault, they just wanted to protect their children. Harry-Golem-with-a-soul was an event they could not have foreseen nor have been informed about.

    Although I have to reiterate my previous belief that a satisfying ending cannot consist of OBHPF (One Big Happy Potter Family). Also, unless a serious change in the characters of the Potters occurs, we can't really justify wishing them ill (no matter how much we may want to). It would be tantamount to harming a family who have done nothing but to love and protect their children.

    I'm still rooting for Harry/Chloris.
     
  7. LuxDragon

    LuxDragon Fourth Year

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    It's certainly different from most fic's out there. Baja is a talented author, but for me, it's kinda hit or miss. Either the fic is really good or really crappy.

    Personally, I think he's making Harry into a huge EMO. I agree with Under_score, the pace needs to slow down or Harry will probably end up slitting his wrists.

    Adding to the fact that James/Lily were both in Gryfindor, how does all 3 kids end up in another house? Boggles the mind. Right, original.

    2.5/5 from me.
     
  8. Lucullus

    Lucullus High Inquisitor

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    So who's the Prophecy child now? It can't be Real Harry, since he was never marked by Voldemort. Is it still Golem Harry?

    And I was wondering, which of them is more powerful? Their child, a boy borne of two magically powerful wizards/witches, or the Golem, which they apparently pumped loads upon loads of magic into, which also possesses a piece of Tom Riddle's soul and who probably is still the Chosen One.

    I'm thinking and hoping it'd be Golem Harry. I don't think I like the Potters too much in this fic.

    But it'd be nice and funny to see Voldemort going after the real Potters, who, as powerful as they may be, is simply no match for him in a fight, whilst ignoring the Golem, who can then have the time to slowly develop his skills and power.

    In fact, I wonder how Voldemort, when he returns that is, feels about Golem Harry given that the latter is actually more 'him' than a Potter. He has the blood of a Potter, which I'm guessing as he is made from their blood, but the soul of Voldemort.

    But anyway, one of the most brilliant and original ideas I've seen thus yet. For that alone, it deserves a 4/5 right off the bat.

    Edit: I think I recall someone here on DLP coming up with a similar idea, but made it into a Challenge rather than writing a fic. It had something to do with Harry being nothing more than a clone of the real Harry Potter or something.

    Don't be a fool. Canon Harry would have probably ended up in Slytherin if he hadn't pleaded with the Hat to change it's mind despite having two Gryffindor parents.
    I get the feeling this might be heading for a H/Hr pairing. If that doesn't happen, H/Chloris might be a possibility.
     
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  9. psihary

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    While the plot is good and it definitely has the potential of turning into one of the best WIP stories out there, it could just as easy turn into the worst angst/fluff scenario ever.

    I haven't read anything else from the author, yet, but then using cannon!Harry character, it's quite easy to imaging a story forming around the 'poor' boy... golem... or whatever they classify him as, fight to prove himself as a human but then in reality, as the author already wrote in that chapter, in the end he will end up in the department of mysteries for more 'thorough' examination. Knowing the Ministry and the people ruling the magical Britain, the only way of escaping that fate is leaving the country. And that is... not an ending I think I'd really like to see.

    I'm surprised at the lack of suggestions "let him join Voldemort, at least he might treat him like human" in the reviews so far. Anyways if Voldemort comes back in the very same way as in OoTP then aren't we having a situation where Voldemort and Harry are practically the same thing... albeit one of them being uglier than the other?

    Anyways, my opinion is that whatever way the story takes, it will be impossibly angsty. In the end Harry Potter(golem) will not, could not be accepted in the Wizarding world and I can't really see it as something I can enjoy.

    Still, for the first chapter a 4/5 for the idea alone.
     
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  10. Richard

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    GolemHarry is still the only one who can kill Voldemort. He's been marked as the prophecy stated. He's equal in power to Voldemort, as the prophecy stated. Unless the author changes the prophecy wording, then it's probably the canon prophecy.
     
  11. Atyan

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    I definitely like this story. The idea is pretty original, but while I think there was too much monologue and too little narration, I still like it.

    Another idea: What would happen if the real Harry Potter is killed by
    Voldemort, but after his death, it's exposed that he's the Golem, while
    "our" Harry is the real one?

    4/5

    Atyan
     
  12. Lucullus

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    I doubt the author would choose that route. It creates too much unnecessary complications.

    But I think there's a real possibility in Real Harry being killed off. Because, he is for all intents and purposes merely a more powerful version of Neville Longbottom. Both were candidates for the Prophecy but were ultimately passed over in favor of the Golem. In short, they are dispensable. Golem Harry isn't. Because of this, Dumbledore will never let the DoM get their hands on Harry. Or at least over his dead body.

    I luled at the students and wizarding society shunning him for the real Potters when Golem or not, he was still their saviour.
     
  13. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    I just have one thing to say:

    Vivi!Harry FTW

    5/5
     
  14. Lincos

    Lincos Professor DLP Supporter

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    How the fuck do you all like this pile of shite?

    And the prophecy can't be about Golem Harry.... he wasn't "born" as the seventh month dies or to parents. You are all just thinking about the main part (being marked) and not the rest of it.
     
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  15. Archer

    Archer Fourth Year DLP Supporter

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    Well it certainly looks interesting enough, but I can't really say anything about it until I see more.
     
  16. Fimbulvintr

    Fimbulvintr Seventh Year

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    Yes, golem!Harry could have been. The word 'born' does not automatically mean parents. Ideas and philosophies can be 'born', that doesn't mean two people had unprotected sex and created it. You're taking parts of the prophecy too literally. As for the seventh month dies, we don't know when the golem was created, for all we know, the Potters made it at the end of July exactly one year after the real Harry was born.

    Also, golem!Harry was created from real Harry's blood and flesh, he just initially lacked a soul. He was created by James' and Lily's work, so one could say that the golem was "born to those who have thrice defied him."
     
  17. Lucullus

    Lucullus High Inquisitor

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    Quoted for truth. Besides, if Golem Harry isn't the Prophecy Child, no one is. And the story wouldn't be as interesting otherwise.
     
  18. Maleficium

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    I'm imagining Golem Harry raping Voldemort for the rest of his soul in some Pinocchio moment to become a 'real boy.' Yeah, that's Harry's power the dark lord knows not. The ability to recycle his soul and use it for a life not as full of genocidal douchebaggery and minion torture. Oh, the Mortal Kombat quotes to be made! Your soul is MINE!
     
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  19. Blaise

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    ...If there was no prophecy child, there wouldn't be a prophecy in the first place. If Golem Harry isn't the prophecy child, then it's either real Harry or Neville, as neither of them have been marked yet.
     
  20. Lucullus

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    Except the Dark Lord already marked Golem Harry, giving him the scar and all.
     
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