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Dangerous by Blacklotus - M

Discussion in 'Trash Bin' started by jpdt19, Mar 24, 2009.

  1. jpdt19

    jpdt19 Fourth Year DLP Supporter

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    Title: Dangerous
    Author: Blacklotus
    Rating: M / NC-17
    Genre: Dark, War.
    DLP Category: No idea. Dark Hermione?
    Pairing: H/Hr (tentatively)
    Status: In Progress
    Summary: After ten years of self-imposed exile, Harry Potter heads home to a wizarding Britain once again embroiled in civil war. Except this time, the Ministry is claiming that the new Dark power is Hermione Granger.
    Link: Dangerous at GrangerEnchanted (requires account)

    Post DH tale, disregarding the epilogue,where Harry went into self imposed exile post the events of the last book. Hermione, outraged at the continued Pureblood supremacy and new Wizengamot, which refused to immediately take efforts to free the muggle-borns in Azkaban, gradually starts to fight fire with fire, becoming the Mudblood Queen, at the head of her own dark group. Harry, sought out in desperation from his hiding, comes home to find England yet again divided and at war, only one of his best friends is now the enemy.

    Very High Quality. Incredibly engrossing story, split largely between Harry and Hermione's perspective. Not so much a Dark Hermione, as an adult and embittered Hermione, whom has come to effectively hate and blame Harry for what went wrong. I would extremely recomend this. Superb story, highly believable plot, and still showing enormous quality even after 12 chapters.

    5/5 from me.
     
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  2. Khazad-Dumb

    Khazad-Dumb Loves the Gay Porn DLP Supporter

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    Looks interesting enough. The fact that I've never heard of the site that it's on and must register to join it kinda sucks. I'll post a review once I finish it.

    I've set up an account that I'll share with DLP users.

    Username: DarkLordPotterForums
    Password: fuckyoubioplague
     
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  3. DarkAizen

    DarkAizen Professor DLP Supporter

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    Thanks for the user General, saved me the trouble to make my own.

    About the story, I dont really want to start reading it, I checked out the author`s bio and I found this:

    "I'm a university student and I've been writing HP fanfiction for about a year. I have three HG/DM stories over at Coloured Grey:"

    I`m gonna wait for someone else to read it and give some reviews before I start myself.

    I am scared of finding Mary Sue instead of Granger.
     
  4. Richard

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    I read a few chapters of it myself. I have to say the characterization is very well written. Harry comes back to Britain after 10 years, the purebloods are putting muggleborns into prisons for no reason, and Hermione is assassinating the pureblood bigots. And Harry is...well, Canon!Harry, pretty much a dipshit in the beginning of the story, but its a very slow process of him becoming a tad smarter. I'd give it a 4 for the excellent characterization she's written.
     
  5. Don_Macas

    Don_Macas First Year

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    I would like to thank the general for his username, I hate to register for sites that i will never visit again and for the time it saved me.

    I started to read the story because the summary attracted my attention but I don't like canon!Harry which is exactly the one who makes an appearance in this story, that and the pairing preferences of the author (HG/DM) takes 1 point straight off.

    I will edit this post once I finish reading the story.
     
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  6. Dirk Diggory

    Dirk Diggory Seventh Year

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    It started out very interesting. In chapter 5 it fell off a cliff completely, with massive Hermione Sue (including her "regal beauty") smacking idiot canon Harry around relentlessly, complete with bashing him about how he bawwwww mistreated her in canon. Naturally all the reviews for the story consist of "U GO GRL".


    Mega fail. 4/5 for decent writing - 3 for one of the worst examples of Hermione Sue I've ever seen = 1/5.
     
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  7. ParseltonguePhoenix

    ParseltonguePhoenix Unspeakable

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    Thanks, General Custer, for the membership info.

    As for the story, I've got to say I'm very impressed with it. The writing itself is on par with Nuhuh's and Nonjon's work, even if the material itself is pretty damned different.

    Characterization here is superb. The author took canon HP characters--some we love and some we hate--and gave them all growth as characters, with varying causes for each change. There's a bitter resentment for Harry in some of the people he'd once called friends. Consider that your best friend, one youd lived, worked, fought, bled and cried with throughout a very trying part of your life up and leaves you when it's over. The guy decides that you're too strong a reminder of all the shit you went through together, and he can't handle even your presence. I'd imagine that most of us, if we really cared, would snap.

    Other circumstances are explored as well, and a few issues that I've (and other DLP members, too, I'm sure) wondered about for a while. What kind of lasting damage would be caused to the psyche of an 11 year old girl who'd been exposed to the twisting of a deranged piece of soul that tried to devour her? The idea is briefly touched upon. What would have happened if Hermione's parents had done something or gone somewhere totally unexpected after she'd obliviated them? Also touched on, in flashbacks at least.

    Yeah, Hermione is very powerful here--we already knew she was extremely intelligent--and a lot of people won't like that. The word 'wandless' was used once, and that's also something people wont like.

    Hermione's caustic comments to Harry about his treatment of her at Hogwarts doesn't feel like a sob story here, or that she's saying it to Harry purely for 'bashing' purposes. She's letting him know that things between them have changed, and drastically. And she does it in such a way that it causes a little pain in Harry's gut with each comment. She's manipulating him, and doing it masterfully.

    In conclusion, many people will probably be interested only until they see how powerful Hermione has become. Normally, I'd be one of them, but in this story it feels like it adds something, rather taking something away. It's the most solidly written fanfic I've seen by any non-DLP author in at least a year.

    5/5
     
  8. Dirk Diggory

    Dirk Diggory Seventh Year

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    Powerful... and so beautiful... and charismatic... and witty... and possessed of a "genius IQ"... the problem is not her power. The problem is that every other character in the story is only there to be horribly flawed and weak to better emphasize her perfection. The only difference between this and Harry-the-heir-of-Merlin-and-the-Founders fics on ff.net is better grammar.
     
  9. Dr. Strange Lulz

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    Every chapter seems like some huge moral debate between Harry and somebody else, I got tired of it after chapter 5.

    For those who intend on reading this, note that Harry is a fucking pussy.

    Basically this is the format of the story.

    Harry talks to somebody: Thinks Hermione's methods are horrible
    Harry talks to Hermione: Starts sympathizing with her cause
    Harry talks to somebody: Thinks Hermione's methods are horrible
    Harry talks to Hermione: Starts sympathizing with her cause
    Hermione fucks Harry (Because she wears the pants in this relationship)

    This is not fun to read.
     
  10. Richard

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    That sounds about right. He was pretty much a dipshit, throwing accusations around, (or assuming a lot of things), and was pretty much Canon!Harry in the smarts and being a pussy department. I skipped a few chapters myself, and went straight for the last one.
     
  11. Warlocke

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    How can this story be described as having great characterization?

    Hermione would be a complete Mary-Sue, if not for the fact that not everybody loves her.

    Let us see, shall we?
    • Harry lays eyes on her for half a second before thinking she's more beautiful than ever.
    • She can do wordless, wandless magic.
    • She can control fiendfyre.
    • She apparently got a power boost in the aftermath of the battle for Hogwarts that's as mysterious and tenuous as any super!Harry powerup.
    • She's right, right, right.
    • When she's wrong, it rarely has any consequences for her (most sues have a knack for falling in shit and coming out smelling like a rose).
    • She knows all.
    My main beef with the story isn't even how powerful Hermione is, it's how worthless Harry is. He should at least be able to verbally defend himself from Hermione's remarks, rather than sit in stunned silence, and he ought to be able to do more than stare in awe when Hermione starts to cast spells. For fuck's sake, he does teach magic for a living.

    Instead, when she leaves he is described as being "In awe. In fear." and "Impressed, humbled, terrified."

    Really, Harry isn't a complete dullard. He already knew that Hermione was aware of his presence in the UK, so for him to make his first words to her, upon her appearance in his completely unwarded and undefended room, “How did you know where I was?” “How did you get in?”, is really sort of the height of stupidity.

    Whatever...

    You can say 'But Harry is true to canon' all you want, but then how does that explain Hermione? Sure, canon!Harry pretty much is a knucklehead who doesn't see the point of expanding his spell repertoire beyond Expelliarmus and Protego, isn't much for book learning, and tends to prefer believing what he's told to thinking for himself.

    At the same time though, canon!Hermione was an unbending, self righteous, harridan who, instead of making something out of herself, chose to become another Weasley Womb for a boy who treated her like shit and who, if Harry was guilty of being lazy and unambitious, was on the same level as a brain dead protozoa... if brain dead protozoa were prone to treating their best friends like dog shit on their shoes.

    So it is safe to say that both Harry and Hermione lost quite a bit of their luster by the end of book seven.

    If Hermione gets to be an all-powerful superwoman and leader of her own cult of personality, then Harry should at least not be an easily swayed dunce with the magic skills of a first year student.

    Just out of curiosity, was "Give yourself in" just a typo that got missed in the editing phase, or is the author truly unaware that it's "Give yourself up" (or is this a regional thing)?

    The real shame here is that, for the most part, the writing is really great, but the super!Hermione/dumbass!Harry drags it down.

    I didn't like Ron/Hermione because I thought she deserved better. Is this better?

    The author said, and I quote, "I should also be clear that this is not a Betrayed!Hermione fic – she is not a victim of stupid and/or malicious friends who turn against her at the drop of a hat."

    That's very curious, because the first thing Hermione does upon seeing Harry is belittle him and make cutting remarks about how he gave her the cold shoulder over the Firebolt incident in friggin' third year and then blame him for the current woes of Wizarding Britain because he left.

    Sounds more than a little like she's feeling like betrayed!Hermione to me, even if the story isn't as formulaic as your typical 'betrayed' fare.

    The jab about not listening to her and getting Sirius killed was just petty, low, and out of line, considering canon Harry acquiesced to her and exhausted all immediately available avenues of confirming Sirius's presence in #12, and was in fact told he was absent by Kreacher.

    Perhaps the most offensive thing about this story is the fact that Harry (the lead male in the story) is portrayed as the stereotypical male with a one-track mind. He finds what Hermione is doing to be offensive in the extreme, he realizes that she's always been leaning this way with her vindictive and destructive behavior, and then he ignores all of that, not out of loyalty or former friendship, but because he's suddenly warm for her form.

    As a male, I say: Gee, thanks a lot.


    Meh. It looks to me like another fic is going on the 'It had potential, but...' stack.

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    And thank you, General Custer.
     
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  12. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Sounds like something I would hate.

    And not necessarily because I hate Hermione. I don't care for the usual drivel at Portkey, because I know I will hate it. This is different. This, I could have liked -- were it not for the retarded characterisation, that is completely unnecessary to boot, since it adds nothing to the story. And that is what makes me really angry.

    It is written well and the plot interesting, no doubt, and then came chapter five. Here are the highlights (and I won't even touch on her "regal beauty", since we all know that it's b/s):


    Wait, what? He should be thanking her for countless hours of nagging, grating on his nerves and being jealous once he actually did it himself, and better than her as well?

    Also, have a look at the books again, bitch. There are countless instances where both praise her ("Genius") and thank her, but that wouldn't fit in here, so it's conveniently forgotten. And of course Harry doesn't know about the Wizengamot, and Hermione has explain it to him. After all, we can't pass up an opportunity to show Hermione's brilliance through Harry's dumbness.

    And of course, he can't tell her that, and is instead shocked and without answer:
    Then, we have Perfect!Hermione:

    How lovely. Now shut up and make me a sandwich.


    Ah, and there we go -- my favourite non-argument. So, how about Hermione went behind the back of her supposed best friend, after he basically told her that he was alright with whatever risk there was and that she was please not to go to McGonagall? Then again, Hermione was never good at listening to others once she thought she was right, mmhyes?

    Line that cracked me up, then:

    Hahahaha, you stupid bitch. WTF? Harry was her only friend -- because he alone was patient enough to endure her. If it was me, I'd have told her to GTFO around Third Year.


    Aaaaand we're back at Perfect!Hermione -- of course, Perfect!Hermione can't be shown for what she truly is. So, for times when even the most rabid fans can't overlook her actions: it was all TEH POTIONZ. BEEP! (Wrong answer, please try again.)

    Hmm. Actually, this is new. I haven’t seen that excuse so far.


    LMFAO, she's still bitter he beat her. Ten years later. Then again, it was one of the greatest moments in HBP. Every. Single. Potions. Class. But of course, Harry can't keep up with Perfect!Hermione:

    Yeah. Punching bag.

    This is stupid. As others have said, Harry (and I guess, everyone) is dumb, in order to make Perfect!Hermione shine. Because, of course, since when it's darkest night, you can even see a dim candle easily, amirite?

    So. 3/5 for writing, +1 for an interesting plot-line, -1 for H/Hr, -4 for Dumb!Harry, and -9000 for Perfect!Hermione.

    It's under -9000, folks.
     
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  13. Demons In The Night

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    Secs ftw!

    2/5 only for grammar.
     
  14. mathiasgranger

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    Well, sadly it doesn't take much to look back at canon and see how weak and inept Harry was, especially in the final two books. It makes Harry a very uninteresting protagonist in the final two books, with little to no re-read value at this point.

    Stories like this exist for the simple reason that Harry was, a weak little bitch in canon at the end. Everything he did was orchestrated by others, each of his successes dependent on help from unseen allies coming out of the wood work.

    Do I see this Hermione, taking hold from what we know of canon, no. Hermione lacked one thing that she is given here in this fic, she was an emotional retard in canon. Incredibly book smart, but without an adequate release for it in an emotional sense. People like Riddle, they have an emotional singularity that leads them to their place, for Riddle it was his overwhelming hatred and spite for those he believed beneath him.

    I wish I could enjoy this story more, but I just can't get over stories where the author wants canon characterizations, to fit into places where they don't work.

    Since I read HBP when it first came out, I understood one thing, canon characterization truly went out the window in making an enjoyable story to read. Post-OOTP stories or earlier in the canon timeline, remain the most interesting simply because, the characters were most interesting at that point in time.

    Story rating= 2/5 for conceptual issues...5/5 for technically solid writing.

    Final rating 3/5, with no intention of reading again.
     
  15. dmacx

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    The writing style is very good, but the story is killed by the massively mary sue Hermione and CompleteAndUtterFuckingPussy!Harry.

    5/5 for Hermione's characterization. I can see really her doing this. Nova is SPEW on steroids.

    -4 for a absolutely worthless Harry. Why not give us a badass Hermione and Harry?

    Also, while I hate Ginny far less that most on DLP since I really haven't read anything with her in it, this Ginny had me wanting to put a rusty railroad spike through her fucking head.

    1/5
     
  16. Lucullus

    Lucullus High Inquisitor

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    Not even going to try this. I think the reviews here paint a pretty clear picture of the fic. H/Hr may be one of my preferred pairings if done right, but pussy!Harry is an instant turn-off.

    Also, Hermione being on par with Voldemort and Dumbledore is an utter joke. No amount of suspension of disbelief will do here.
     
  17. LuxDragon

    LuxDragon Fourth Year

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    Genius IQ my @$$. Einstein had genius IQ, but that didn't mean he new every damn thing about physics.

    Whatever grade passes for fail here. 1/5 doesn't even cut it.
     
  18. Anme

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    I was extremely hopeful when I read the first chapters. Later on I got a bit frustated but I don't think that the characterization is that much off.

    The 'prove' that she was a massive Sue is mostly her saying that she is brilliant which just proves that she is a bitch. I read in a response to a review that the author said that he/she made a few flaws larger in Hermione than they were in canon. He/She doesn't see her as a Sue.
    Hermione is unfortunately way too powerful which is a turn off.

    Harry is not that much away from his canon. He doesn't have an idea what to do and he is easily influenced but the author did say that Harry was not that much less powerful than Hermione and also that Harry was going to undertake some action soon.

    I don't think it deserves the library right now but it's not bad and still has some potential. Writing is very good.
    I'll probably be following this to see where it goes.

    3/5

    I actually liked Ron (or at least his characterization) a little bit in this fic.
     
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  19. thapagan

    thapagan High Inquisitor

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    This story is one of the better explorations of a post war magical england.
    I just read the last two chapters and did not find Harry or Hermione That hard to take, but last month when I read the first 10 chapters I was not happy with War Torn PTSD Harry! and thought Hermione was over the top.

    It is a good set up if Harry is going to fight Hermione, but I feel the story is leaning more to Harry joining her, and take over the world( insert cackling).

    Still I feel it is one of the better HP fan fic stories being written now.
    4/5 lets see how it plays out and hope for the best.
     
  20. silverlasso

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    Ugh...I want to like this, but everything everyone has already commented on makes this story fail. It isn't even so much the fact that there's Perfect!Hermione; to me, having Harry be such a pussy ruins the entire thing. Eh...2/5.
     
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