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Complete The Best Revenge by Arsinoe de Blassenville - T

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Skeletaure, Jul 22, 2009.

  1. Dr. Strange Lulz

    Dr. Strange Lulz Denarii Host DLP Supporter

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    I fucking hate Hufflepuff!Harry Stories.

    Maybe this one will change my mind.
     
  2. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    While I agree with you, can you honestly tell me you didn't see this happening... at least 5 chapters back?
     
  3. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    lol, me again.

    thought it was funny
     
  4. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    You know what else is funny? Me banning you for abusing one of the new features. I would find that absolutely HILARIOUS.
     
  5. Demons In The Night

    Demons In The Night Chief Warlock

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    Totally not funny.

    Buzz killer.

    *sulks*
     
  6. Agnostics Puppet

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    Youre right. That was funny.

    On topic; Im liking this fic a lot, and Mentor!Snape fics usually make me want to throw up a little. Harry being in Hufflepuff is a bit of a downer, but hopefully it wont detract from the fic as a whole. We'll see.
     
  7. Illution

    Illution Seventh Year

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    With the newest chapter, the story becomes a Snape-mentors-a-'puff-Harry story; yet it still remains brilliant.
     
  8. Howdy

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    I was a big fan of this up until the Hufflepuff placement, which seems completely wrong given the author's characterization of Harry.

    From where are we supposed to get the idea that Harry craves hordes of friends? And if this is the case, wouldn't an eleven year old want to go to where his good friends are already?

    Also wasn't a fan of the author's James bashing. I get that much of the story is told from Snape's perspective, so in that sense it's good characterization, but having his Hogwart's trunk full of girls' underwear? In his home? Next to his wife's?

    It's to be expected that Snape thinks of James as a stupid pig, but to confirm it in such a way seems unnecessary and contradictory to what we know from canon. Plenty of good people loved James Potter, yet the author apparently doesn't want to reconcile that in this story. James was apparently just great at fooling everyone.

    Aside from that, I've enjoyed the story so far, but am wary about the future. Hufflepuff!Harry doesn't fit in this story.
     
  9. RustyRed

    RustyRed High Inquisitor

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    ^ Agree with everything.

    That's the problem with Snape mentor stories--you have to bend over backwards and twist every other character in knots to make Snape seem like he could be a good guy. Buuut he's not.

    On the other hand, I'm also enjoying this story, but this guy called Snape is pretty much an OC in my mind. Meh. Another detraction is that fics that play with the Malfoys/ Mizzundastood Death Eaters deck kind of annoy me.

    One thing I've noticed about this author is that they seem to have a much better grasp on how children actually think and act than a lot of writers. I can't really remember the last time I read a 'year one' fic where Harry actually plays, instead of being a miniature adult.
     
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  10. sincostan

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    Awkward constructions and poor imitation of Victorian English.

    Btw, what's the new feature?
     
  11. Innomine

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    Meh, this is far far too slow for my liking. I usually love these kinda stories, but its just too slow. 2/5 from me.
     
  12. Kinser

    Kinser Fourth Year

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    Having read to the current point in this story while I must say that I am surprised by the Hufflepuff sorting, I don't think that this will change the story over much.

    In fact I do see several advantages from it. Hufflepuff has no clear rivalries with any other houses as far as the canon is concerned. This would make having friends within all of the houses easier. Of course this could also be said of Ravenclaw, which is where I thought Harry would be sorted to as he seemed to be a bit more studious than your average 11 year old.

    That said, I still think the story is on track and retains its 5/5 rating.

    ---------- Post automerged at 18:33 ---------- Previous post was at 18:25 ----------

    Actually there are several rather good slash fics that are out there. I highly recommend Lightning on the Wave's Sacrifices arc. That is slash and Twin BWL fics and I thought they were all well written, with good technial execution characterization etc. In fact in some cases there were fewer plot holes than in the canon.

    However there is no such thing as a worthy Harry/Ginny or as I like to think of them Harry/Whore fic. The simple reason that there is already such a fanfiction out there. Its called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.

    Yes I am one of those who thinks that JKR just decided to scribble anything down after OOTP. She got tired of trying I guess and had to fill her contract. And by that time HP had become so branded that she could have written anything and bam people would have lapped it up. Oh wait Half Baked Plot and Deadly Horrible already proved that.
     
  13. Kai Shek

    Kai Shek Supreme Mugwump

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    Ahh, I see.

    So you're an idiot?
     
  14. Kinser

    Kinser Fourth Year

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    Actually I would say anyone who didn't subscribe to that theory would be an idiot. I mean seriously JKR wrote 5 novels with very few plot holes in them but the last two have plot holes big enough to dive the Hogwarts Express through?

    That is not a failing of technical execution. It is the author being utterly bored with her series and under contract to finish it.
     
  15. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

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    I'd call a person stating assumptions as though they were fact an idiot. I'd go so far as to call them retarded.
     
  16. Kinser

    Kinser Fourth Year

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    Sree with all due respect, I have yet to see a better explanation. I could be wrong. However, it is not an assumption to point out the obvious plot holes in the last two books. And, it is not an assumption that she had a contract to write seven HP books.

    I'm not saying that HBP and DH were truly horrible (trust me I have read much much worse), but in comparison to her other work, they clearly were not her best novels.
     
  17. Rahkesh Asmodaeus

    Rahkesh Asmodaeus THUNDAH Bawd Admin DLP Supporter

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    I beg to differ. HBP was decent if not for the romance aspect of it. Deathly Hallows was far better than Chamber of Secrets or Order of the Phoenix. There are plot holes in everything. Even she admitted it. When all's said and done though, it remains a children's book and should not be judged by normal fiction standards.
     
  18. Kinser

    Kinser Fourth Year

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    Sree both points would be a matter of opinion. It is my opinion that DH and HBP were not as good as OOTP or GOF. The addition of the romance factor into HBP made the book worse than it other wise would have been. Not to mention Hermione changing from a "genius researcher and text whore" to a babbling idiot who was only thinking about Ron's willy in the course of less than two months was a little more than contrived--and probably over two years late if it could have been believible.

    Second yes there are plot holes in every book. The plot holes in HBP and DH are much more obvious, much more annoying and much much bigger. And there was no attempt to even close them like happened in the plot holes in the previous books.

    Thirdly I do not after having read all seven of the HP books multipul times and also the suplimental books (Quidditch Through the Ages, Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them, and Tales of Beetle and the Bard) consider the series to actually be "children's" literature. If I were a parent--and I must make clear that I am not--I would not allow my children to read the books until they were at least 10 maybe 11 if not older. As such I would classfiy them based upon the themes of the books themselves as "teen" literature if not "young adult" with the exception of the first two books of the series.

    As such I do not apply the same standards to the HP series as I would say War and Peace by Tolstoy. One is a classic, the other is popular literature.

    And furthermore my honest opinion is that the first five books were better generally than the last two.
     
  19. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    It's clear that JKR was never interested in world building.

    The reason so many people dislike HBP and DH is not because the books got worse per se, but because they represent a major divergence in what we as a readership sub-fandom desired from the series and what JKR desired from the series.

    We wanted a hardcore fantasy with a heroic main character.

    JKR wanted a fable about love, death and sacrifice.

    For many of the earlier books, it looked like what we wanted and what JKR wanted might coincide. But HBP and DH gave up on presenting Harry as hero, and instead focused on a different aspect of the series.

    So yeah. It's not so much that HBP and DH are bad. It's just that they went in a direction that we did not want - similar really to how H/Hr shippers feel about how the series went H/G.
     
  20. Agnostics Puppet

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    In the storys defense, there really wasnt all that much James bashing. Like you said, this story is told mainly from Snapes perspective, and thus it will be colored by the greasy man's way of understanding. Even so, when Harry asked about his father, Snape bit his tongue and said "Your father was not without his talents." Coming from Snape, thats about as close as you'll get to a compliment.

    As for the trunk, perhaps its fanon twisting my way of seeing things, but I would imagine that James and Lily didnt have much time to sort through things before getting hot and heavy into the war. In this fic, it looks to me like they just sealed their trunks up and stashed them in some corner. We dont know any of the story behind the trunk.