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Strategic Retreat by anolfrik - T

Discussion in 'Trash Bin' started by ip82, Mar 1, 2006.

  1. oldmagic

    oldmagic Seventh Year

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    many of you have alot of good points. it's just that hogwarts is just that, a school for kids to get education. unfortunatly the steriotypical of houses and how they should act just went way too far. i mean if an oc came to england from america that has no such thing as houses or sterio types and the oc was sorted into griffondor or slytherin there will be alot of prejudice going on. the oc will think that the everybody takes things way too seriously with the house rivalry and really wouldn't know what to do, especially with all the insults that will come his way because he is in a certin house.

    what the authors keeps forgetting is that they take hogwarts and the houses way too seriously that leads to cliche's. there is a world other than hogwarts and i'm pretty sure that hogwarts isn't the best school in the world.


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  2. ip82

    ip82 Prisoner

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    I'm not sure I like the idea of Harry going back to meet the founders.

    Besides it being clished, overused and illogical, that would also ruin all the progress Harry had made thus far. What's the point of him hiding from Dumbledore, strugling with learning in trunk and trying to break the blocks on his mind, if he's just gonna get sent back in time and have all his problems solved in a relaxed and easy-going enviroment... That's just an easy way out (same as Dobby the all mighty super-friend, actually).

    Much better (and logical) plot would be for Harry to escape from the Dursleys and travel the world, hiding from both Dumbledore & Riddle and seeking help from world's renoved wizards. Judging by the progress this story has taken so far, I feel that something like this would make much more sense, than yet another founders twist amongst the thousands of others.
     
  3. sirius009

    sirius009 Minister of Magic

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    yea all the cliches are making me almost vomit, come on dobby is like the dog that humps harry's leg and won't get off, and how many people are going to write some pathetic thing where harry stops time or where harry uses a time turner..
     
  4. ChuckDaTruck

    ChuckDaTruck Overlord

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    I agree. The founders time serves to just put Harry back in a school/laid back environment.

    It removes the pressures of time, and besides that, is overused.

    If anyone could travel back so far, do you think Voldemort, or anyone else wouldn't have done so already? And if Harry stumbles upon it (something I hate) why him? Wouldn't others have investigated this?

    I don't know. Keep it in the present. As for Super!Dobby, then you're forced to explain WHY house-elves are enslaved if they're so powerful.

    We have see no evidence at all in canon. (We've seen Winky drag Barty jr., Dobby seal the portal to 9 3/4, and Dobby do the bludger, and Malfoy sr.


    I imagine house elves can clean, pop (house elf apparation), cook, and have telekinesis (to put things in their proper place). Think about it. Dobby used telekinesis to change the bludger, seal the door, Winky used it to drag Barty, and Dobby used it to push Malfoy Sr. It can all be explained. That's how I see house-elves anyway.)
     
  5. oldmagic

    oldmagic Seventh Year

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    good argument right there. never have thought of that.
     
  6. daterza

    daterza First Year

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    Re: Timetravel

    even if you it`s done for that purpose I think there are many other ways of having harry get a personality rather than send him through time.
     
  7. Olfrik

    Olfrik Seventh Year

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    Re: timetravel

    Hm.. you really have me thinking there....
    I dont like these childrens stuff, with Harry blushing over girls and trying to fit in with the others but I find it a rather interesting idea to have Harry as an independent adult, not as the defense teacher, mind you, and neither as some super hero order of the phoenix leader. I rather like the timetravel idea, because, as stupid as the house rivalry and splitting is, it might have made sense at the time. And I find it rather hard to find any decent founder time fics. there ist the "crumbling pedestal", which I really like and this "era of Hogwarts". I find the others rather too cliche and all this stuff with training his powers and then go back and kickass... Its most often written like a little childs tale with lots of fluff and Hogwarts as the centre of the earth, which it certainly isnt. So maybe I'll do a poll.
     
  8. That_Boy

    That_Boy DLP Elite DLP Supporter

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    Wow never thought of that before, it makes a lot of sense. Are there any other examples of House Elf Magic.

    Are you planning on sending Harry back to Hogwarts in the founder's time? Or just to that timeframe without revolving around Hogwarts?
     
  9. ip82

    ip82 Prisoner

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    I just don't see why everything has to happen with the Founders - that's like 40 years period in the 5000+ years of history... what are the odds of everyone ending there?

    If you really want time travel, send him to some other time and place... or, like I said, ditch the time-travel thing completely.

    If the whole point is to have him develop character, send him to work as a slave to some master in Shaolyn or some other place like that... or become a part of an european criminal underground... etc, possibilities are endless...

    Many boys have become man without having to visit the founders :)...
     
  10. ChuckDaTruck

    ChuckDaTruck Overlord

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    You REALLY want to do it...Send Harry to Caveman times. There he invents fire, is worshipped as a God, and teaches people how to communicate. Because its prehistoric, by the time he leaves, they will have VERY little documentation.


    Can't you see it.

    Harry: THis is a wheel. Look, it rolls.

    Cave People: Oooooh!!!

    Cave Man #1: Arg, ugh.

    Harry: Yes, you could say tumbling is another term for rolling.



    DO IT!! If you're gonna do time travel, at least make it different. I mean why do all fics take place during Hogwarts being founded, or its early years. We're talking about ALL TIME HERE!!!!
     
  11. Scrittore

    Scrittore Groundskeeper

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    So this story is an Harry!independent one.

    The major difference from many in the genre is that this is Post-GoF.

    It's four chapters before it was abandoned.

    Right off the bat, there are other words to describe someone being clever other then Slytherin:

    So then he goes to Harry bashing Ron and Hermione for being "Gryffindors." Then he calls for Dobby, gets Dobby's help, and plays the charade of being "their Harry." Of course, both Ron and Hermione are insensitive and Harry is having plenty of epiphanies.

    Then Harry meets a Snake outside, and it calls itself..Ray. *Facepalm*

    First off, What the fuck. Secondly, learn magical traveling? Train to Run? Does Harry not know how to use god damn legs? :confused:

    Did the author have this in mind when writing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpgq8tabXOg

    Oh, and of course, Harry gets a magical trunk. Here's hoping he gets trapped in it.

    Someone taking Canon too literally. Sigh

    Harry goes down to the Chamber of Secrets of course to use the parts from the basilisk!

    O.O, do I even need to comment?

    O.O, do I even need to comment here too?

    Harry and Dobby then proceed to go through Harry's new trunk and fix it up.

    Harry and Dobby sharing a bedroom..

    Accio what? What the fuck.

    Two binding curses on his scar? 2-1 says one of them is Dumbledore's while the other is Riddle's.

    O.O

    Okay Goku! err Harry!

    Conclusion: What. The. Fuck. Harry Potter and the Magical List of Cliches. There was honestly no reason for Harry to run around, the characterizations of Hermione and Ron were forced among many other problems. The grammar wasn't perfect either, and this story just reeked cliches as mentioned.

    This story gets a 1/5 and a wish from myself to be taken out of the Library.
     
  12. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    It's the name of a book in Harry Potter. I think it's actually Moste Potent Potions or something, though. Either that or it's a made up name I've seen used more than once. But yeah, it's the name of a book.

    Nothing too hard to understand there.

    As for some of those cliches, back in 2006, they weren't exactly cliches. Gotta keep that in mind when reviewing it more than three years down the track.

    A lot of that shit just doesn't stand the test of time.

    Most of that shit was pretty painful, though, even back then.
     
  13. Innomine

    Innomine Alchemist ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I think the question is though, should we start deleting all the old stories that no one likes anymore?
     
  14. Andro

    Andro Master of Death DLP Supporter

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    Right, but how tolerant should we be of these cliches? We can't let fics gain immunity by virtue of age.