... you'll shit brix.

Ahhh, the 80s. the Dark Age of common sense and hairstyle. :facepalm

Good song. Awesome song but at the end of the music video, you'll see what I mean.

 

It's in a shirt and tie.

 

Cute dog.

/filler

EDIT: Oh yeah, good song too.

 

Haven't heard this in a while not a bad song and its about 29 years old give or take, so whats so special about it? and please don't say the dog.

 

Girl, I am disappoint.

 

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And I hate this fucking song. I live above a bar, frequented almost exclusively by 20something white people who believe that good music simply doesn't exist after 1990, and 40somethings reminiscing to the days when these songs had first come out. This shit, and fucking "Don't Stop Believing" by Journey, get played religiously. I knew I would get in a bad mood when I clicked that link, so I can't even really blame the OP, but...

Fuck this song. Fuck this song in the ear.

EDIT: And fuck that little dog, too.

 

The problem is that they're overplayed in most settings, and that Rick Springfield's song catalog is pretty crappy (seriously - he's got maybe two or three other good songs before dissolving into a slurry of mediocrity and shit) - I think they'd feel bad if they didn't play something by the guy.

Now I hesitate to defend those '20somethings' who only like 80s-and-older music (primarily because I'm sort of one), but I've got say with complete objectivitiy that most 90s music wasn't nearly as good as the stuff that came before, at least in terms of hard rock. Other than Nine Inch Nails, Meat Loaf dropping his best album in his career, and whatever the hell Nirvana was doing, rock got shitty in the 90s, and hasn't really improved much in the 2000s. The last two decades have primarily focused on the rise of a 'pop' genre and mainstream acceptance of hip-hop and rap. I can imagine that's more your thing, Blaise, which begs the question: why the hell are you living over a rock bar?

 

True enough, but Journey's song catalog sure as hell isn't. Yet religiously, "Don't Stop Believing" gets sung along to by off-key drunken toolbags.

Boo. Boo and hiss, sir.

Yeah, anything by Nirvana will send me into a rage (Cobain's overrated IMO, but that's a whole 'nother kettle o' fish), but the 90's had legit music. STP, Oasis, R.E.M., Eve 6, anything that Dave Grohl decided to do, Vertical Horizon, RHCP (though admittedly hit or miss), Orgy, Powerman 5000, Brian Setzer, Depeche Mode, etc etc. There's enough one-hit-wonders out there to fill a week's worth of legit 90's rock without playing the same tired shit over and over. And over.

And I listen to everything. My cousin put it best: if music is like food, wouldn't you get tired of eating the same shit every day ?

15-foot floor-to-ceiling windows, and a rooftop terrace with views of the Washington Monument.

 

Of course it is, primarily because 'Faithfully' and 'Lovin, Touchin, Squeezin'' are too slow to be played at bars, and 'Anyway You Want It' is too fast for most drunken idiots to sing along with. And the rest of Journey's catalog isn't really known widely outside of Journey fans (unfortunately). They're sort of like AC/DC that way - everyone knows the quintessential AC/DC songs, but the ones on the fringes of the catalog might as well not be there for the mainstream listeners.

Agreed, and my music tastes are much of the same wildly varied theme (my running playlist today consisted of Eminem, Chumbawamba, Porcupine Tree, Dragonforce, Poison, Tupac, the Backstreet Boys, and the Pokemon theme). But if we take a look at the four main 'outgrowths' of rock (punk, hard/borderline-metal, prog, and 'mainstream/pop/power-ballad/arena'), prog and hard/borderline-metal got the biggest revival in the nineties, and neither were much of my forte.

Maybe it's just me, but I never took to R.E.M. or Depeche Mode or even RHCP the same way a lot of prog/alternative listeners did, and I wasn't a huge fan of the direction they took most of the hard rock - it was very dark and moody, and it didn't have that manic awesome energy and optimism that characterized most of the 80s rock I liked. If anything, the metal scene had a 'lighter' theme to it in the 90s than the rock did (see, guys like Iron Maiden - they didn't take anything seriously back then (they still really don't) and they have a blast doing it). One reason I tend to like Nickelback more than I should, because they're a band that loves to fuck around and produce surprisingly upbeat tracks.

Partially it had to do with the song structure evolution and the gradual change from rock vocalists (who could shout/sing consistently with a very distinct sound - see David Coverdale, David Lee Roth, and Meat Loaf) to a more vocal-focused but less vocally-impressive rock singing. With that change, the scene of mainstream, accessible rock in the style of Poison and Survivor and Whitesnake and Journey just dried up.

And the punk scene? Strong during the seventies and still mostly strong in the eighties, it deteriorated and split badly into ska and punk-metal, most of both drying up pretty quickly before being revived in garage-punk, which in most cases didn't have the production or musical sophistication to really appeal to me (Green Day's only starting to get this, mostly by shamelessly ripping off The Who).

But I think you and I are looking at different things, Blaise. While there might be great one-hit wonders, I tend to look more for bands with consistently strong albums and song catalogs across the board, and so a lot of those 80s-nostalgia guys (both in their 20s and 40s). Back then, it was based on albums, not song selections for a playlist, so bands had to be a lot more musically consistent. And let's be brutally honest: the 90s rock scene didn't have that. The nineties were a decade of one-hit wonders in rock that I prefer to listen to (even the most hardcore R.E.M fans admit the band peaked at the second album), with very few exceptions (outside of RHCP (which remain inconsistent) and occasionally Oasis).

 

I just nostalgia'd. Hard.

 

You two just added a whole heap of win to an utterly fail thread. :awesome

 

Speaking as one of the targeted, I can say with some certainty that the Journey-mongers aren't remembering great albums, even if that was how they were packaged at the time. Those club-goers can't recall the album play- they were grooving on mix-tapes of the cherry-picked radio hits.

I was truly losing faith in the value of rock until the coming of Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Primus, and Faith No More restored the energy that was lacking in the late 80's over-produced pop-rocks.
You can't say they were vocally or musically simplistic, either.

One more thought- Metallica brought rock-metal into the mainstream like nothing before it. Sure, they take themselves too seriously (a decent dose of Fishbone can cure that...) but the impact can't be dismissed.

And then there was Tool.