Title: Master and Apprentice
Author: Tyrant of the East
Rating: T
Genre: Sci-Fi/Fantasy
DLP Category: AU/Crossover
Pairing: None
Status: Work in Progress
Summary: The common man is like a worm in the gut of a corpse, trapped inside a prison of cold flesh, helpless and uncaring, unaware even of the inevitability of its own doom... But some... Some have the ability to see beyond this prison. All they need is guidance
Link: Master and Apprentice

Well, well, well...

Harry Potter and Warhammer: 40k crossover. What can I say? It is the Prologue but give the quality of Tyrant's work, this shit is gonna be AWESOME!

 

Why did you put this in 'For Review' if it's only at the prologue? What chance does it really have of getting into the library, no matter how good the writing is, if all we have to judge is just over 1.3k words?

 

Dark-Stallion is right in that it's far too early to put it up for review, but I can see why you're excited. Tyrant of the East is one of the most well known WH40K authors in the fandom IIRC and his WH40K/WoW crossover is very good, even if it's a little lopsided.

My first thought was that a HP/WH40K crossover could be awesome. If you span it right, you could even make Harry the God-Emperor if you're willing to play with the backstory a bit and don't mind killing off the wizarding world. My hopes were dashed when I realized that this will face the same problem his WH/WoW crossover faced. The power levels are incomparable. HP magic can transform people, hide buildings and enchant concepts at its higher levels. Warhammer 40K has trillions of soldiers in each faction, with many having powers and technology that make them one man armies when introduced to almost any other fandom. One Space Marine has wtf!pwned entire armies by himself with limited weaponry and ammunition in his other fic, and in this one there's an entire battle-station?

I was a little confused and some quick research didn't really help. I know a bit about WH40K but I admit I haven't played the game nor read the books so that could be why it isn't obvious to me as it may seem to some of you. What faction was just introduced? Apophis is the name of a Tyranid Hive Fleet, but Prospero was a planet that belonged to Chaos and wraithbone is a substance used by the Eldar, so I'm confused. There is also a mention of a god, but those are fairly numerous in WH40K so that doesn't really narrow it down considering the apparently large number of factions present on the ship in orbit.

I think WH40K fans may enjoy it, but I doubt it'll make it into the library. Abused!Harry and the ridiculous power levels make it seem like it'll be fan wank for WH fans instead of something that most members on DLP would enjoy. Thanks for posting it though, I doubt I'd have found it until The God of Death was finished.

 

Being one of those few poor souls who has tried to write such a crossover, I can say it doesn't work. And the angle the author here seems to be taking is...odd. It looks to be a fic which will end up with Harry, probably called by another name, in a completely new situation, with nothing to do with the original books, destroying all connection to the books. So by the looks of it so far, not something I would enjoy or follow.

 

I think a WH40k crossover could work, but it'd have to be done VERY differently from this one. Any faction in 40k would rape the fuck out of most Sci-Fi universes. Against modern earth / wizarding Earth...bad things happen, even with just one Space Hulk. There's also the fact that this is Abused!Harry and will likely feature a Harry with a different name, in a different setting, with nothing in common with canon.

I can't rate it with nothing but a prologue, but I'm expecting it to be 2.5 stars at best.

 

The Thousand Sons. Clad in loyalist Heresy armour. It's going to be a guilty pleasure fic regardless of how bad it may turn out to be, or turn out to be a lost STC blueprint of awesomeness. The high quality of Tyrant's current stories bodes well though - need more of Confessions of the Wayward Son.

 

While I agree the power levels are incomparable, we really don't know where this is going. Tyrant could be planning on a timeskip/training montage, he might be taken into another setting, or there might be conflict on Earth, etc... Too early to judge.

 

Harry taken by Chaos? That's quite a novel idea. Every other WAR40K x-over (with other fandoms) I've glanced at, uses mostly Space Marines or the Eldar.

Harry as a disciple of Tzeentch would be so fucking sweet.

(It's strange that a HP/War40K x-over would surface, just as I'm buzzed by a plot bunny of Grey Knight!Harry, being ritually summoned back to Hogwarts 1995 to solve Voldemort problems. And the epic clusterfuck of epicness that would ensue.)

 

We've most definitely had this conversation before. Pretty sure it's in the HP/40k crossover thread, and I'm positive it got shot down quick as hell... mostly due to the memory erasing factor (combined with the aforementioned power difference)

I like my HP and 40k kept separate.

 

HP is so popular that it has been literally crossed with everything, not saying all of them are quality. Hell, I've tried a Sailor Moon/HP, a Ranma/Hp, and an Eva/HP X-over, and they all fell-flat on their asses due to quality being subpar. Some worlds are just harder to merge than others.

As to the story...I want to enjoy the awesome so many people have for 40K, but man I just can't get into the fics or the games or the fanfics. There's just something wrong with that universe that puts me off. I can't explain, really, I just can't get into to them.

So, writing was decent, but not for me. No rate. (Also, really earlier. Should of been in Almost Recommended Thread.)

 

As a guilty pleasure fic, this has my interest. As a straight up stand alone work, I don't know. There has been talk on the internets for some time about a WH40K/HP fic in the theme of Acadamia Nut's Thousand Shinji and The Open Door. Despite the abrupt start, ths might be something.

3.5 stars for sheer balls and for being well written. But only time will tell...

 

Second chapter is up.

I'm not entirely sure what to say about it. The Wizarding World is presented like a parody, and for some reason Harry is buddy buddy with the Eldar as well as the Thousand Suns, even though I'm pretty sure the Eldar and Chaos are on less than friendly terms.

 

Tyrant of the East usually puts out high quality shit, but the second chapter of this was just awful. Warhammer 40K should be an extreme out of context problem for the Harry Potter world, for multiple reasons. Power levels, etc.

This fic has fallen into the same trap other HP fics have fallen into. Given that this Harry was trained by one of the Thousand Sons, a psyker and sorcerer and warrior on a level simply unreal to the likes of Dumbledore or Voldemort, and his worldview is unlike any wizard or any other human being, why send him back to Earth and England at all?

It's that fanfic idea that really England and Voldemort and all that are the most important places/events in the HP universe. Because honestly, in WH40K/HP, 40K is infinitely broader in scale. Galactic scale combat and events vs. one rinky-dink island and terrorists called Death Eaters who would be massacred by 1 or 2 squads of Astartes.

 

I gave a 5/5 since I was such a huge fan of his other work and wanted to offset the low ratings, but after the second chapter, had no choice but to change it to a 1/5. You think a writer is too skilled, too talented to write something so shit, but then you're proven wrong.

Heinously, heinously bad.

 

Fixed that for you.

If the story used the Thousand Sons' interests and intentions with the HP world as a platform to reforge a relationship with the Imperium thus widening the scope of the plot, it would have been so much better - right now the direction seems so un-WH40k like in scale that the mere presence of long-term planners like the Thousand Sons and the Eldar are inexplicable. There's nothing to suggest that this world/story is interesting enough that an Inquisitor wouldn't just say "Sorcery!", point and then yell "Exterminatus!"

 

The first chapter did a complete 180 from the prologue. There were just so many things that made it great. Now most of you don't like this fic all that much and I can understand that. It just doesn't really work if you look at it seriously. But if hte author continues on in the same theme as the first chapter then it could work. Very, very well. When was the last time you saw a 40k crackfic?

Things like this are what make this story good. It would've been better if it was a serious fic and the author could actually pull it off, and it still might be. I hope it stays with the humor theme though. Otherwise it'll fall flat on its ass.

 

The new chapter is even more dire than I had expected it to be. The author seems, as has been previously said here, to be attempting to do a humour/crack fic...They are failing utterly at this. I literally didn't crack a smile through the entire chapter. The humour is pathetic, its what I would expect to find in something written by a child for special needs children.