Really?

I was a little disappointed in the resolution to this fight, to be honest - not that I expected it to be drawn out here, because frankly Itachi and Nagato are a little used up after they each got a massive fight. I just wasn't too thrilled to see the super haxx jutsu reemerge to sort of put to rest that they are indeed the ultimate moves.

For instance, Nagato can suddenly use all the paths at once? Even that robot one? So what was the point in creating the Six Paths of Pain again? I mean Naruto clearly states that his abilities are much stronger when it's Nagato using them and not the Paths. So what the hell?

While Itachi is always cool, I really did not want to see his Susano'o come in to play, especially to save the whole fucking fight. Kishimoto just basically reaffirmed the fact that ninjutsu you inherit through gimmicky eyes are always going to be superior to hard-won ninjutsu techniques you learn and create on your own, despite the fact that Minato's plan for Naruto was for him to overcome the Sharingan with some mix of the Kyuubi's raw power and his own ingenuity.

And that is why Minato is a boss and these guys are played out.

All I can really say is that I'm glad we can move forward with the plot now. That fight left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

 

He was a cripple that was why he needed the paths. Susanno is overpowered as shit but considering Tobi has the Rinnegan and he old eyes and six paths I think it's needed.

 

Nagato used the 6 paths of pain because his body was in such bad shape after Hanzo nearly killed him.

 

Lol, no.

Nagato was perfectly fine, if a little burned, until he decided to sync with Gedou Mazou. And I'm wondering if you guys missed the fact that he completely healed himself just by absorbing some chakra in the last chapter?

 

He didn't heal Edo Tensei healed Nagato. Oh and Nagato's legs were fucked up beyond use otherwise he would be running around with his paths like a boss.

 

The fuck is wrong with you Luckylee? It was blatantly shown that Nagato healed when he absorbed massive amounts of bijuu-chakra from B and Naruto. Edo-Tensei had shit to do with it, it just put him back together when he took massive damage, like from the Amaterasu and just now when Itachi cut off his arm. Nagato's appearance and physical condition being tied to his chakra was proven way back when he resurrected thousands of people and his hair turned white and he became even more skinny and haggard. This chapter just confirmed that the opposite is possible and that Nagato could have returned to peak condition if he'd just absorbed enough chakra, too bad Bijuu-levels of chakra is pretty scarce.

Oh and Howdy, the point of the Six Paths was to avoid being surprise-ganked like what just happened to him, the paths were supposed to make the enemy reveal all his tricks. Had he known about the Sake blade there'd be no way he'd let Itachi get close enough to use it, he's got more than enough long-range jutsu to get by. Although the speed of that attack must be pretty damn ridiculous considering he didn't see it coming straight at him..

How's the writing going btw?

 

I can't say I ever understood why he chose to sync with Gedo Mazo and turn himself into a living corpse (oxymorons, ftw). It didn't seem like a considered decision, given the situation. May be that Genryuu Kyu Fujin he used to attack Hanzo, Danzo and their men, could only be used through Gedo? And like Pirazy said, after he created the paths, he probably saw the benifits and decided to stick with it.

In any case, Nagato's role is done and we're well shot of him. As he is in this chapter, he's literally impossible to defeat with any normal skill or power. You can't win against him hand-to-hand, he absorbs all chakra and elemental attacks, has a robot with cannons attached to his body, can suck out your soul, can summon outlandish cretures endlessly, can resurrect the dead, and can control gravity. Itachi, Madara and Kakashi with their sharingan are probably the only ones who can end him directly (or perhaps Minato if he could place one of his seals on Nagato and even that is pretty esoteric).

I found it interesting that Naruto asked Nagato to teach him how to use his powers. Foreshadowing of Naruto's mastery of the six paths even without the Rinnegan? He does have the Senju and Uchiha powers in him...

 

How would Naruto have uchiha powers? The crow was just for brainwashing Sasuke.

 

He still has it in him. Maybe there'd be a way for him to use that chakra to complete the Sage's techniques. Wouldn't that be kinda the point? Madara has access to the powers of the Sage already, after all.

 

According to Madara the Rinnegan is the result of the blood of Uchiha and Senju mixing, and Nagato has been confirmed (by Madara) to be related to the Uzumaki clan.

It's not completely impossible for Naruto to somehow awaken the Rinnegan, depends on where in the family tree he is, and where the blood of the Uchiha was introduced.

 

I doubt it will happen and frankly, it would look rather weird to me to have Naruto permanently with the Rinnegan instead of his own eyes. Also, if Minato turns out to be a distant relative of Uchiha, there'll be hell to pay.

 

I can only see half the conversation because I have Luckylee on my ignore list. =)

Unless next chapter Nagato somehow gives Naruto his eyes before he vanishes completely, I don't see him getting the eyes, personally I would prefer if he didn't, but knowing Kishi he will pull something along those lines out from somewhere.

 

I don't think he will either, just pointed out that it wouldn't break canon if he did..

 

Beginning was good, middle was garbage.

Yeah, I can see that.

 

Lol, I guess I dislike that Minato's soo hyped up or mebbe I'm influenced from Fanon. \()/ Either way Minato makes me give a sour look every time he appears in the manga.

And I think the reason for making the 6 paths were two fold. First being sentimental, remember all the paths were former Akatsuki members who died. This was prolly Nagato's deranged method of keeping their memory alive. Another reason could be tactical. If the enemy can't find the real Nagato, then they can't kill him. The sole reason Jiraiya lost was because he couldn't find the real one, so I'd say reason well served.

But thats just guesswork on my part.

 

As far as Rinnegan and Naruto go, I don't believe that Naruto will get the eye itself.

Also, maybe I'm looking at it wrong but while the Rinnegan is formed by mixing the Uchiha and Senju bloodlines, the techinques used by the Paths themselves are a result of a unique chakra combination (Imagination or Yin to visualize what you want and Physical or Yang to make it real...or something like that, Madara explained it while fighting Konan). If so, then Naruto should be able to perform the techniques similar to the Paths even without having the Rinnegan - as long as he has access to that unique chakra combination.

 

The reason I don't see him getting anymore techniques, is the time, sure he has Shadow Clones, but realtime-wise, I think they only have about a weeks worth left for the war to finish imo, and I don't think that's long enough to learn techniques to that calibur.

Just my opinion though.

 

This chapter was awesome and hilarious both. Naruto face palming after his Rasengan on Nagato was great.

Another reason I don't see him getting anymore techniques is that he doesn't really need them. At this point, who realistically besides Madara (whose abilities we don't fully know yet) could beat him?

 

I was somewhat disappointed in this chapter. Mostly because how pathetic Naruto was here. I mean I don't mind if other characters get their chances in the limelight ofcourse, but I hate it when it comes at the expense of others we are supposed to root for. Naruto is supposed to be the main character and here he basically acted like a complete moron. Heck, he admits it himself even!

Trying to use Rasengan against Nagato, when he faced the guy before and KNEW he has the ability to completely neutralise enemy techniques. If he had two separate paths, both with the ability to disable the far more powerfull Rasenshuriken (and Naruto knew about both), then wtf did Naruto think an ordinary rasengan would do? Heck, why did he keep asking Nagato about it when it was obvious his mind had been suppressed. And if the Kyuubimode is supposed to make him superfast, why did he let himself get caught in the first place.

Or how about having to have Itachi the incredible rescue him and Bee both from certain death, and then having Itachi explain everything to him about how to disable the CT like Naruto was some retarded genin (oh wait...). And ofcourse it was Itachi who stoped Nagato pretty much alone, while Naruto and Bee watched in awe.

Basically, Madara has the rinnegan now, which means he has all those same powers and more. And Naruto is supposed to do anything to that guy? At the end of the chapter, I found the whole scene with Nagato almost laughable with the way Nagato trusted Naruto with defeating Madara and bringing about peace. Nagato would have been better off putting his trust in Itachi instead and telling Naruto to go home since he obviously is not ready for the big-leagues as proven by this chapter.

Apparently these kinds of pics are just fanart and not related to the manga at all, so this is not anykind of foreshadowing about anything. I admit the picture itself is pretty cool.
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Obviously because if Nagato had gone to Konoha himself, he would have destroyed Naruto in less than 3 seconds and the manga would have ended. Plot no Jutsu.

Yeah, I really hated that. What was the point of all those scenes with Naruto fighting Kyuubi to gain its power and training hard to learn to use those powers, when this chapter made it obvious that Rinnegan/Sharingan can make a joke of the whole thing. And how could this Naruto possibly have ANY chance against Madara/EMS!Sasuke?

My worry is that we won't be moving forward as much as you hope.

I mean Itachi is stil alive, and there is a real possibility that he is not going anywhere. If Kabuto could dismiss him, he surely would have done it already (since without him Bee and Naruto would have been decimated by Nagato). Itachi will probably join Naruto and Bee.

And ofcourse, since Itachi is an edo, he is immortal and invulnerable and immune to the negative side effects of using his eyes. You can probably expect a lot of Susanoo/Amaterasu spam from now on.

 

You say this as if it's a bad thing. And as if you hate Itachi.