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Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. Sirion

    Sirion First Year

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    Bump. So, new patch, Season1 Championship over!

    Also, I started playing this game a lot more this summer and I'm looking for people to duo queue with to get out of the mid-elo range!

    If you're interested, I'm Parkingmeter on the US Server.
     
  2. DvorakQ

    DvorakQ Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    Shezza's pretty competent and still playing, he's thedeadguy (us server). I'm taking a little break from the game :)
     
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  3. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Playing on the Eu server, name is : MistycEldar. Feel free to look me up.
     
  4. Shezza

    Shezza Renegade 4 Life DLP Supporter

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    Eh, wouldn't say I'm competent...still got a long way to go, imo.

    That said, look me up if you're up for a game. I'm always keen.
     
  5. Delirium

    Delirium Fourth Year

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    General/advanced advice

    Some stuff is misspelled, stupid auto correct on the device, can't fix it right now.

    If your team is winning all the lanes don't just push the turrets. Keep last hitting and killing the opponents; the second you push the lane and take the turret, it becomes easier for them to farm.

    Morse is not a good solo or champion except at lower levels, that being said feel free to experiment.

    One of the best top lane solo champions is Warwick. Go chalice + lucidity boots spirit visage plus cd runes and u have 40 cd and enough mana to sustain provided you have yellow mana per lvl regen runes. While people may distain chalice it is quite useful on some heroes.

    Also current meta is very much tanky deeps. Glass cannon vs tanky char with one Dmg item = tanky wins. Exception is vayne due to percent true damage.

    1) always always observe the behavior of your lane opponent(s), if they suddenly change behavior even only slightly be ready for a potential gank.

    2) on that note: ward your ass off, every time u go back grab one ward at least for your lane. If you have good lane sustain grab 2 or more. When I play heifer I like getting 4-5 each time since I'm generally pushing. Also if the opponent thinks you are warding their junglier may come through your jungle to gang you thus posing the river and your ward, so ward that too if u can.

    3)communicate with your team, team coordination wins, especially if you have ape unties.

    4) learn who is dangerous when: ex at lvl 6: akali, earths, kassadin, Leblanc (dangerous past lvl1), Annie, Caitlyn, lee sin, etc

    Learn why they are dangerous too.

    5) do not freaking chase smn across the map unless you are positive they are the only one alive, chasing = get baited more.

    6) TAB is your friend. Use it love it.

    7) except for specific champs, armor pen runes are better than ad runes. Ap runes should be chosen only on champs that heal more than they Dmg although even then mp runes can be better if you play offensively.

    8) fun builds that actually work (don't try these in ranked, ppl will rage)
    Tank teemo, ad son a

    9) do not build blitz ap, get sheen and manamume. Then get defensive items with mana.


    That is all for now, have fun
     
  6. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Tiger Udyr w/ 21/0/9 and AD Marks + Quints can 2-shot anyone under 550 HP at lvl 1 if he has ignite.
     
  7. Trooper

    Trooper Death Eater

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    Just downloaded and started playing 3 days ago(On my shiny new PC ^_^) . PPVee on the EU server if someone is looking me up. Also playing on Garena from tomorrow. >_>

    On another note is anyone playing HoN (I couldn't find the relevant thread, sorry.<_<)? It seems free to play on Garena but apparently costs $30 on their regular site...whats up with that? I was curious because a lot of the heroes seem to be almost full on carry overs from classic DotA and I am a regular DotA player.

    Its a bit jarring for a DotA player like me to play Lol where there's no distinction based on agi, str or int and the stats looked really strange when I first played it.
     
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  8. Illution

    Illution Seventh Year

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    Season one is ending this month and your rewards will be based on your rank, copper silver, gold, platinum. Also, here is the greatest League of Legends video of all time.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwzsXR4sM_Y
     
  9. Hero of Stupidity

    Hero of Stupidity Villain of Sensibility ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    So I was wondering , if anybody has an unused lvl 30 North american account which I could use to play with, because Jon wants me. If somebody has pls pm me.
     
  10. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    Just bumping this because I play league of legends quite frequently (username: churchy), and would love to play a couple games if anyone is interested. I used to be top .5% a long time ago, but I like to think I still do alright.

    Also if anyone has any questions about the game/mechanics/strategies/heroes, I do know quite a bit about theorycraft because LoL is my #1 nerd-hobby at the moment.
     
  11. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Heh.

    We'll be the judge of that. Add 'InariOfRaith' and we'll have a game sometime.

    Edit: Huh, 1.2k wins. I wouldn't mind playing with you after all.
     
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  12. 1and1is3

    1and1is3 First Year

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    Just started playing as well. No denies and creep blocking really threw me off. How do you control the lane if you are solo midding?

    There's additional stuff like runes and fortifications as well... Anyone mind explaining to me about ap and ad? I mean I know the basics, but which one scales better into late game?
     
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  13. Deviace

    Deviace Second Year

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    Dont bother with runes until you can buy the tier 3 runes otherwise your just wasting IP.

    AP is ability power, champs whose damage is based off AP such as annie/veigar/anivia etc ( champs whose main damage output comes from their casting spells) use AP items to add damage to their abilities.

    AD is physcial damage. Characters such as master yi/ashe/warwick or most melee characters depend on physical damage or AD to deal the majority of their damage. AD also adds to spell damage for some champs depending on what their skills scale with.

    Ill give you an example.

    Anivia ( Mage character ) you would stack alot of ap for her spells to do more damage since her auto is weak.

    Miss fortune. ( ranged AD ) you would stack attack speed boosting damage and crit gear.

    ID is Kempodude if anyone wants to add for some ranked games :)
     
  14. Beonid

    Beonid Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    In the games I've played, you'll generally get a good harasser in mid, to keep the opponent away from your creeps. You'll also often get junglers or a roamer from another lane coming to gank mid.
     
  15. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Churchy is profun.

    I approve of him immensely.
     
  16. stormfury

    stormfury Unspeakable

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    Think of it this way:

    In DotA or HoN, when you play perfectly, you kill your opponent.

    In LoL, when you play perfectly, you don't die.




    As for AD and AP, champions abilities scale with different stats. You CAN get massively more AP then AD for the same amount of money, but keep in mind that AD scales with both auto attack and your abilities, whereas AP doesnt effect your autoattack.

    It all depends on your role, and what your teammates pick. If you have too many AD or AP on your side, the other team can just build armor or magic resist items and shut your damage down too easily.

    The current pro metagame places a support (champion who builds gold per 10 items and has abilities that support the team without necessarily needing lots of AP) with a ranged ad carry (someone who will mainly be autoattacking for massive damage endgame) in the bottom lane, some form of AP carry in mid (someone with some form of CC who can burst out lots of AP damage), a bruiser top lane (a tanky champion with a lot of lane sustainability), and a jungle... roaming the jungle >.>

    The Euro/foreign metagame has dominated the americans in the latest tournaments, with having a more assassin-like ap carry mid and a gankier bruiser to allow for more chasing and an easier time in team fights to just walk right past the bruiser/jungle wall of the other team and kill their carries. For example, Kassadin and Akali are massively popular choices at the moment, and Kassadin basically carried IEM NY for every team that had him.


    Their are a ton of good LoL livestreams that you can find at clgaming.net that showcase basically the best LoL players in the world, if you want to get a better handle of the game watching instead of playing.
     
  17. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    This.

    SO much this.

    Rule #1 es Don't die.
     
  18. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    You can still deny, but in a much different way. If you are coming off of Dota/HoN this will be much easier to achieve. Keep track of the hp of both your minions and the enemy minions. When your minions are low on health you should know the enemy wants to come in to last hit. This is when you harass or use your body to force them away from the creeps to avoid being harassed.

    Keep in mind this only works if you have strong knowledge about how certain champion match ups play out. If you are just starting the game though, you may find that many people have no idea what it means to last hit and so you will start with a large advantage by simply last hitting where they don't.

    You can also deny cs by pushing your lane hard to their tower. Last hitting under the tower is rather difficult because towers throw things off and have no real pattern to their creep targetting. This only really works in mid because for most champs, pushing the lane past the river will mean that you get ganked by the Jungler. Once again, if you are just starting, you may never see junglers anyway.

    If you find yourself pushed underneath the tower, the key to last hitting is to recognize that melee minions require 2 tower attacks and 2 autoattacks to kill and the caster minions requrie 2 autoattacks and 1 tower attack to kill. This means that you need to hit every target once before the tower fires its first shot and once after it fires its first shot. The tower sometimes decides to kill the melee first and sometimes gets the ranged first so most of the time you will miss one or two simply by being pushed there.

    AD and AP are both great scaling stats. As a general rule, AD carries because AD carries. Spells have cooldowns while autoattacks don't. However, with the AD/AP system, pretty much any character can carry a game if they have a farm advantage. When choosing to build AD or AP, take a look at your character. Some characters have AD scaling abilities and some have AP scaling abilities. If an ability gets a damage bonus from AP or AD, it will list the damage dealt by the ability followed by (+xx) to list the damage bonus. The tooltip is light blue. If the (+xx) is in orange, it is an AD ability. If the (+xx) is in green, it's an AP ability. Some abilities scale off both and some characters have different abilities which scale off different stats. Figure out which yours is and build appropriately. If you have any questions about specific champions, feel free to ask.

    For AD heroes, as a general rule, straight attack damage>armor penetration>attack speed>critical strike>lifesteal.
    For AD heroes, you want to first build a damage item like Bloodthirster or Infinity Edge. Then build an attackspeed item like Phantom Dancer. From there you can either build more straight attack damage or build a second phantom dancer.

    For AP heroes, a strong build you generally can't go wrong with is Catalyst of the protector-->rod of ages-->rabadon's deathcap--->voidstaff.

    There are hybrid champions and weird champions as well. Shaco has scaling off of AP and AD, but generally you want to build one or the other. Akali and Jax have AP and AD scaling, and they make great use of hybrid items which have both AP and AD on them like gunblade and rageblade. Ryze is an AP caster, but scales off of mana, not AP. Sion only has two AP abilities, but AP sion is incredibly powerful.

    AP characters have a strong early-mid game but generally taper off into the late game. Oftentimes though the game can end before late game or have such a disparity that the APs can still carry. As someone posted, the metagame is AD/tank/bruiser top, AP carry mid, AD carry+support bottom, with 1 in the jungle. The justification for this is that a jungler gives extra xp and lane pressure (because the enemy jungle could come gank!). The AP carry and Bruiser need the solo lane XP because having a level advantage will make a big difference. AP carries get a lot of their damage just from leveling their skills. The support needs nothing and so can babysit, while the AD carry needs farm more than levels to carry because his items mean more than his skills. The reason for 2 bot instead of 2 top is so you can have more people get to dragon if the enemy team attempts to do it. Don't be a slave to this plan, and enjoy the fact that before level 30 you shouldn't have to deal with dogmatic meta slaves. After level 30, however, it's dogma time.

    As for runes, it is correct that you should wait until hitting level 20 to buy runes because the t1/t2 runes are shit. However, if you buy 5 tier 1 runes and combine them in the rune combiner, they make 1 t2 rune. If you combine 5 t2 runes, they make you 1 t3 rune. Since the process is completely random and the t1 runes cost as little as 15 IP, you can get a t3 rune as early as level 1 for as little as 375 IP. Considering some t3 runes can cost as much as 2000 IP, this is a great way to abuse the system and set yourself up with some t3 runes for cheap. It is completely random though, so you may get stuck with some of the niche runes or useless runes or get too many of the same rune, so be careful how much you use this.

    One last tip to take to the grave, is that wards are OP. They were the only item in Dota with a cooldown, so abuse the fact that they are cheap and unlimited in LoL. They will win games. A lot of people delegate the jungler/support as ward bitch, but you can see top teams in tournaments all pitch in for wards, because no wards are enough wards.

    Glad to hear it though your singed is trolltastic :awesome
     
  19. DvorakQ

    DvorakQ Seventh Year DLP Supporter

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    lols jon. You've actually learned it now? Took you long enough :)
     
  20. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    'Learned' is such a strong word....
     
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