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Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    ..Dotdotdot.

    People on Team 1:

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    Team 2
    Whoever wants to be on it. Depending on how people play and how much they can play together people will be moved in or out of team 1.
     
  2. gamingguru

    gamingguru Fourth Year

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    I can play basically anytime after 2 p.m. through thursday, and anytime at all the rest of the week. Just let me know.
     
  3. Cull

    Cull Second Year

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    Playtime is night time EST for me. I"m gone most of this weekend though if we try to get something started this particular weekend.
     
  4. goldenwolfeye

    goldenwolfeye Seventh Year

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    I've changed my mind. As a Shaco, I love the new jungle.

    The changes almost guarantee me or my teammate first blood.
     
  5. Mishie

    Mishie Fat Dog

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    Dear god I had the most amazing game last night, our tf was being a fail in mid and vlad was 10/0/0 before 20 minutes. Most of my team wanted to surrender because we had obviously lost but it was going to be my last game for the night so fuck you tf, you feed you get to have a shitty game. As such I just stayed in bot with zilean and laned against a fizz and the dumbest gragas I've ever seen, it's like he didn't know that his ult would push me away from the tower and stop me from taking pot-shots at him. Eventually shaco came down to gank and thanks to the fact that zilean and I were both paranoid and had been spamming wards, I melted him.

    Mid-game was basically me getting fed from small skirmishes and teamfights thanks to the fact that the other team kept on ignoring me, and when they didn't zilean would save the day, as such I slowly started to catch up to Vlad in kills. It didn't hurt that we always tried to have a big fight whenever vlad was far away.

    Both teams went for baron a few time but thanks to the fact that they didn't push hard when they had it and we did when we had it, we were able to push to their nexus and win eventually.

    tl;dr Fed Kog>Fed Vlad :3
     
  6. Redeye

    Redeye Penultimate Lurker DLP Supporter

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    Send me an invite to Team 2.
    I work until 4PM EST most days so anytime after that I'm free to play.
     
  7. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    People with seal of approval for duos:

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  8. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Must finish booting OS of comp so I can actually start playing without lag.

    Tis freaking terrible to play everything on low specs, no sound, and windowed and still only claw 20 FPS max in team fights.
     
  9. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Is anyone else not impressed with Volibear in jungle? I generally jungle as Skarner, who has a fast clear and a lot of hank potential. Comparatively, when the enemy team has Volibear and I am Skarner, I have never lost. Maybe I have only been playing unskilled people, but he isn't that impressive early game. He can be easily counter jungled (when I can find him) and the other team always has a significant lack of yanking power if they try to rely on him. Generally, by the time Volibear would start being dangerous, my team has enough momentum that we almost ignore him because he is low threat.

    Something new I've been doing on Skarner is not getting the armor and 5 health pots build at start. I've been using the regenerate 15 amulet and a health pot, plus the gold masteries. Once I get to 600 gold from jungle, I can b and get philosopher stone and boots, allowing me to be be aggressive with my ganking because the gold/time is a safety net, and when I do well I can get everything much faster.


    I wanted to ask how armor penetration works. Right now I'm using the two quints and my red for armor pen but I've had such success with the gold/time runes the quints look amazing. I'll try to post more data when I get home, but my runes are:

    Red: armor pen
    Yellow: armor
    Blue:attack speed (thinking of doing some kind of regenerate here)
    Quints: armor pen

    Mastery :
    Utility: gold, movespeed, and mana regen.
    Defensive up to spiked armor.
     
  10. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    That's mainly because the new jungle screwed everything up and made all AOE users into Kings.

    If it was still old jungle, Voli would be lethal. New jungle craps on way too many champions without either a fast and early gank or constant AOE.
     
  11. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Mmmm, Talon is fun. But he's too predictable.

    ---------- Post automerged at 05:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:01 PM ----------

    So what does everyone think of the New Sivir?

    Honestly, I'm just a bit in love. She hits hard, she's fairly surviveable, her ult is great for Teamfights, and her Spell Shield makes casters rage.

    I cannot tell you how much I love seeing Annie or Brand or Xerath cuss about Spell Shield in AllChat.
     
  12. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    Her teamfight damage is like halved just from the ricochet changed. Someone did some math on it, but it is a significant nerf.

    On top of that, boomerang blade and her ult were nerfed. Her ult is her only steroid, but it sucks dick compared to other AD carries because it is an aura effect. However, no one needs the attackspeed but the AD carry. Sometimes the bruiser/jungler might make use of it, but mostly it isn't going to do anything useful, the movespeed is great for initiating but so is a shurelias reverie. I'd much rather have the better steroids on 1/10th the CD like the rest of the AD carries.

    Boom blade got a .1 AD ratio increase, but honestly that's a 50 damage increase on the ability before armor if you don't hit any minions and have 300 AD. Because they changed it from magic damage to physical, it is severely weaker in the mid game. All champions have scaling armor, only 25%-50% have scaling magic resist.

    Furthermore, her base stats took heavy nerfs to compensate for her 75 range increase, even though she is still has shorter range than the majority of AD carries.

    Her spellshield is nice, and her new passive is -ok-, but she is still weaker than any of the other ranged carries with true escapes like Graves/Cait/Trist/Corki/Ezreal/Vayne.

    If you need pure damage, pretty much every AD carry is better. If you need aoe damage, corki/graves are better. If you need safety, everyone but kog is better. If you need range, pretty much everyone is better.
     
  13. The Berkeley Hunt

    The Berkeley Hunt Headmaster

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    Cannot play this game. Massive lag and connection problems for no reason. It suggests the firewall, which allows the game through no problems. When I got into a game, I lagged twenty seconds behind play for a minute and then DCed. Even the chat system is fucking up. And I know it isn't my internet, which works fine for everything else. Shit is fucking annoying.
     
  14. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    DING.

    Level 30.


    >.>

    <.<


    What now?
     
  15. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    Play more of the same until you are good with 2 characters in each role, tank, carry, bruiser, and support. Then go rape faces in ranked.

    Or risk elo hell and play ranked now.
     
  16. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    If you actually played ranked then you'd know that suggesting the former is a level 1 heresy punishable by immolation.
     
  17. Darth Disaster

    Darth Disaster The Waking Sith ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Why?

    /10char
     
  18. Gabrinth

    Gabrinth Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    I assume because that's what you should do, and that's improbable enough to jokingly be called heresy in any internet game where one is forced to deal with the terrible RNG intelligence machine that is genetics. :p

    Also, more on topic, Fiddlesticks jungle is my main, but the new jungle has pretty much broken him. As of now, I'm forced to get a Kage's and wait for seven minutes and the second round of blue to get level 5 1/2 and go hit dragon before my easy level 6 gank. Before the jungle patch, I was able to do that at 5 minutes by going golems/wraiths/wolves, blue pill, blue buff/rest of jungle/dragon.

    I could try and gank before 6, but now that's been ruined. If I leave the jungle, everything spawns before I come back, so I've wasted a lot of experience and gold if my gank fails.

    What I'm trying to say is that whenever I jungle now I have to hope to jeebus they don't have a good early ganker and that my lanes can hold well, because I won't be anywhere near any lanes until 8 or 9 minutes.

    Still, that means I've been trying out a wider range of champions, and that includes something I'd avoided before now: the ranged carry bot position.

    Could someone give me some tips for AD ranged? I've had good Vayne/MF games, but I do poorly as the game goes into team fights, and I'm really not sure why. I know their moves, and I can destroy in the early game easily, but it doesn't scale well for me.
     
  19. Wildfeather

    Wildfeather The Nidokaiser ~ Prestige ~

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    My English might be fail, but when comparing two things isn't the first the former, and the second the latter?

    Or I suppose you were being sarcastic but it didn't come across well...
     
  20. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    I believe you are correct Wildfeather, but take my signature into account when reading this.

    As for "Why" it is a heresy punishable by immolation, joining ranked without sufficient experience at level 30 is never a good idea. Before level 30, you will not often play against other level 30s and that ends up with you being quite a bit behind the 'metagame' as it were. Before 30, teamfights are less common than skirmishes, dragon/baron are unimportant, wards aren't bought, and creepscore sucks. Jumping into 1200 elo to start playing your ranked matches immediately will most likely see you shot down to the 900s. If you want to do well in ranked, keep in mind that 1300 is top 40% or something.

    If you want to start playing ranked, start playing normal draft first and improve your skills. Once you have a good idea on what champions are good picks and bans, what you need to keep in mind when building your team, and which champs can give you a decisive advantage based on their champion picks (Gragas/Janna hardcounter aoe-teams), you can start to consider trying out ranked.

    As for vayne in teamfights:
    1. Run cleanse/flash. Exhaust flash can work, but the new cleanse is extremely powerful compared to the nerfed exhaust.
    2. Never be in the fight first. Positioning is essential. Watch some Doublelift vayne games to see how a good vayne plays in the late-game. Vayne is all about knowing when to run and when to fight. If they are all chasing you, you run away and let your team fight them. If they mostly break off and you have 1 on you, you stand and fight. For the most part, relying on your team for protection won't work except in higher levels of play. Tell your team often and repeatedly: "Protect me so I can deal damage." Sometimes, this can make the difference of them chasing the singed and standing back to keep shaco off of you. The other solution is to never engage with your team. Wait for the fight to be well initiated and half-done before going anywhere near it, and just play cleanup.
    3. Don't use your stun or roll offensively unless you are decisively winning the fight.
     
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