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Surprisingly, I'm not so adverse to a Captain Marvel! Harry.
Would be pretty epic, actually.

 

I think you mean averse.

 

I was thinking about having ambient magic fuel his abilities - the world is saturated in the stuff, with 'hotspots' at places like Diagon, Hogwarts, etc. The trouble is mainly the whole 'God' thing, as you've both said.

This is my most major concern, at the moment.

Could personality flaws and problems help make up for such things?

I was thinking about either having Harry himself abducted, shoved into a tube and then 'worked on', or having Lily and James abducted, altered, and then have Lily knocked up with Harry - two halfs of the new genetic code in each parent, to create the final product.

It'd also make sense if there was something in each parents' DNA (e.g. James as a pureblood, he'd have the required traits from the wizarding world such as metamorphmagi/animagi in his DNA, because of how inbred they are, and Lily, for something else) that are required for the process to work to create a viable offspring.

Slow growth, I think, to stop the possibility of it rapidly descending into 'God!Harry' territory.

Aside from a few passive things, like fitness and agility (reflected in normal kids, basically), anything 'active' would slowly develop as he grows older.

Of course, on the flip-side, if he was somehow shot into another solar system where there was another, differing enviromental factor (like with Kryptonians and a yellow star), it's likely that he'd somehow be that world's version of Superman, differeing from how he'd be like if he were born and raised on (his native enviroment of) Earth. Or he could end up being so weak that a simple needle could kill him - who knows?

Most probably to have him stand out from other superheroes, as he's supposed to be what humanity would have been, had aliens not fucked with terrestrial DNA.

I'm not sure which route to go, to be honest; have him at Hogwarts, which would end up being a tighter knit version of the whole 'Smallville'-type story, or have him appear at Hogwarts sometimes, like in the (for example) Denarian series, by Shezza.

Each have benefits and drawbacks, most notably that being at Hogwarts would force some pretty good character development/interaction, but it'd limit his exposure to other heroes and metahumans, such as Kara, Diana, Clark, Bruce, etc.

Also, someone already tried linking Harry's scar with the DC Greek Gods: it was in a story where it's post-Voldemort, he's in Greece, Circe's the antagonist, and he's the descendent (through Lily) of the Amazon Queen's sister.

It's linked somewhere in this thread - I think it's abandoned/stolen, though?

 

I suppose it would depend on how it's presented. Knowing that he could be a uber-powerful person if he could only get over his desire to cut himself probably wouldn't be a good avenue to turn down.

Personally, if I had to write this character, I'd hide everything, leaving subtle hints along the way to revealing his powers/heritage. I think knowing that he's powered up in that way, the reader would constantly be expecting the scene when he comes into his own, and then being let down when it doesn't happen, whenever that is.

Did that make sense?

Maybe parsing his powers over time, as he grows older more are revealed ala Smallville. But we'd be entering cliche-land by that point.

 

One idea I saw a while back (I think it was in the World War Hulk storyline, but it has been ages since I read it), was infinite power, but only in minor increments.

Basically, the Hulk is on a massive rampage, killing and smashing and generally being a bit of a dick. Being the Hulk, he's tougher than normal, and so can stand being shot at, or stabbed, or having buildings fall on him. However, if a nuclear bomb were to be dropped on him at this point, he would die.

But instead of calling in a bomb, the army is called in. And now he's being shot at with high powered rifles, or having a few minor explosives being thrown at him. So he toughens up again, and withstands this new onslaught.

And then missiles, and blahblahblah...

The point I'm trying to make is that the character could have limitless potential, whether this was in everything, or a specific trait, or a series of mutations; but could only increase in small jumps, and only when required.

 

Here it is.

If you are going genetic manipulation on the parents, than I have some ideas for whom gets what. As James was a prominent fighter within the order, his ability would have to be kind of low-key, or he never learned to use it accept during high emotions. Perhaps they analyzed Vixen's animal pendant and imbued its essence within James. In him it could have just made him more efficient while changed into his animagus form or fighting werewolves. It could then show up in Harry as a more advanced talent due to the combinations of genes he would have, perhaps as beast speak, a multi-magus(multiple animagus), or enhanced metamorph powers(not unlike mystique from the x-men, he could change into any person or animal).

As for Lily, I have 2 ideas within my head. One is that they turn her into an Amazon, perhaps to see if the Amazonian women are merely more evolved versions of normal women, and the gene sequence doesn't blend well with her DNA. This gives her some minor strength and speed increase, but nothing major. When Harry is born something acts as the catalyst(genes he gets from James, or James' enhancements) giving him full access to the amazonian gene. The other idea I had was perhaps, because of the physical similarities, they seek to recreate the accident that turned Pamela Isley into Poison Ivy. It could succeed to a point and give her a knack for gardening. It then manifests itself in Harry as full control over plant life, and an immunity to toxins. Maybe they tried to give Lily both, and her body repressed certain traits that than become active in Harry.

Fact of the matter is, if I were a good writer and was trying this myself, Harry would inherit: Magic(Lily and James), Beast-Speak(JP), Multi-magus(JP), Botanical Control(LP), and perhaps agelessness from some repressed amazonian genes(LP).
Now he is strong, but not invincible.

Just my idea, however I fully recognize that you all have more experience writing than I do.

 

@Jorm; if you're going to power Harry's superpowers through ambient magic you could use that to limit his power in certain situations. For example, at Hogwarts, a place soaked in ambient magic, his powers are at their peak but in a place with little ambient magic his powers are correspondingly weak.

Another way to limit his powers could be to make them non-physical. So, he's a wizard and has some superpowers but physically he's still a weak human.


I've already read the story you mentioned from when it was posted earlier in the thread.

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So I'm thinking about buying DC Comics: The New 52 from Amazon. It's a compilation of issues and costs $90 pre-order. My question is, is it worth it?

 

I've sampled a good number of them, so my answer would be no, since a good portion of them aren't reboots. Pick the ones you'd be interested in reading about. In the long run it probably be less expensive.

Ones that stood as outstanding (in my opinion):

Suicide Squad, The Strange Case of Luther Strode, Justice League Dark, Voodoo, Teen Titans, Red Lanterns, Birds of Prey, and Red Hood and the Outlaws. Suicide Squad, is the best with artwork and story by far.

The Green Lantern comics, Batman, Batwoman, Catwoman, weren't really rebooted.

 

Thanks for the advice.

 

Animal Man was also really good, but a little retarded. Same thing with Swamp Thing just I personally didn't pick it up. Green Lantern: New Guardians, along with The Fury of Firestorm and Superboy, were also amazing. Batgirl is interesting in a weirdly retarded sort of way, Barbara now has her legs back. That is all i can think of off the top of my head, and by that I mean all the comics piled up next to my computer from the past to weeks.
Depending on how big your local comic shop is they might actually have the fourth or fifth printings of the first and second issues. I know in NYC that Midtown Comics by Grand Central Station has most if not all of the new 52 first issues.

 

God no, some of those are the fandoms most horrid cliches.

I'm not sure if the animagus potential is genetic (like metamorphmagi and, for example, seen in the Santi's fic) or a skill anyone can learn, like a Patronus charm.

If it's genetic, it's already there in James, with possibly anything else the Wizarding World has - Purebloods are all inbred, after all.

Didn't think of the Amazonians and any possible DNA there, to be honest; then again, if Harry was essentially a terrestrial animal/human 're-engineered' from scratch, wouldn't he have the genes that make Amazons themselves already, somewhere in his genetic soup?

The human body is remarkably complex; apparently, for example, the more you're exposed to pain, the more you feel it - the nerve endings actually learn.

A human with superior or a more complex genetic structure could have a lot of avenues to play around with; deprived of vitamin C? No problem! Apparently, one of our 'just-before-monkey' ancestors had a gene with actually produced vitamin C in the body - a mutation essentially disabled it, but it's still in our junk DNA, or something along those lines.

There was an Outer Limits episode years ago, that had a man -who had cancer- injected with experimental nanomachines; eventually, he became less and less human as the machines 'improved' him, in order to counter-act his almost Brother-In-Law's consensual tests, like having eyes grow in the back of his skull, jellyfish like stingers over his flesh to protect it, gills to breathe underwater, etc.

As you can imagine, it didn't end well for the bloke, or his fiance.

Very creepy shit.

Yeah; it'd also stride dangerously close to the thousands of piss-poor 'indie' Harry cliches seen on ff.net. Not a good area to dance around, methinks.

Sort of, yeah - I admit that I'd struggle with the implementation a bit; not so much the hints/subtext, but on how to use them effectively. Otherwise, the poor implementation would be just as bad as 'telling, now showing' his uber!humanism.

At the moment, I've broken it down into two 'lists';

Biological elements because of his 'superior' DNA over regular humans; basically, nothing magically powered, active or ambiently - plain ol' superior biology, courtesy of his complex genetic code.

The resources I'm drawing upon to display this 'superiority' are based upon human vestigality, stuff we've eventually 'sloughed' off during our evolution, and what logical improvements man -as a species- could have on various organs and stuff. That's the design direction I'm going for, basically.

Things grouped under the biological category would be like being able to see in the dark perfectly (his pupil being able to expand, allowing more light in), a third , protective eyelid , being able to see more wavelengths of light (that are normally just outside of the normal human visual spectrum), such as infra-red and ultraviolet, etc.

This would give him a great edge over regular ol' weak humans, but obviously not enough to be on the levels of a proper superhero, like Superman.

Things under the 'Super Power' category would things actively powered by magic; this includes things like spells (Harry Potter, Zatanna, etc) and magic supercharging his natural biology, like how rays from a yellow star unintentionally charges up a Kryptonian's DNA/body.

From what I understand, Kryptonian's bodies evolved the way they did in order to try and catch as much sunlight/rays from their own red giant as they possibly could, like plants desperately growing upwards in a rainforest to try and get to sunlight, and to survive their own harsh environment . This also means that they'd all be healthy and be naturally strong, physically, even when 'unpowered' by a yellow star.

Being exposed to a yellow star, which has a much more significant output, essentially supercharged their bodies as a side-effect of this evolution, giving them superpowers.

With Harry's 'humans that should have been, not the frail things generally seen due to vandalism' biology, I'm trying to create a unique parallel to this sort of evolution.

Earth is saturated in magic, and can alter terrestrial animal development, as seen in the origins of the Homo Magi.

Aside from being physically fit and adaptive due to Earth's less-than-safe past, 'uber!humans' would have evolved to utilise magic as a part of their fairly complex biology, like with Kryptonians and sun-rays.

However, because there wasn't a real shortage of magic on Earth, compared to Krypton's red giant rays and a yellow star's rays, magic actively ingrained itself as a part of their biology. "charging 'em up".

The only downside to this, is that if a uber!human leaves Earth's near proximity and goes to another planet that doesn't have magic or a near substitute, for example...well, not too sure what would happen - could be bad (like a Kryptonian becoming 'normal' again under a red giant), could be good (gaining power instead, like Kryptonians under a yellow star).

Uh, hope these ramblings provide some insight into the avenue I'm probably going to go down.

 

Here is an X-Men crossover that I don't believe has been posted yet. If it has my apologizes. http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5010221/1/Fusion

It has a few big problems but from what I remember it is as good as The Ascension of Ra. Biggest problem I had was Harry's emotional instability. Not whiny bitch Harry, but instead acting like Dumbledore shoved a firecracker up his ass and lit it. Lots of over the top melodrama.

 

"Rated: M - English - Adventure/Sci-Fi - James H./Wolverine/Logan & Harry P. - Reviews: 241 - Updated: 04-27-09 - Published: 04-21-09 - id:5010221"

Urgh, I normally flinch when I see that bolded tag. Somehow, when Harry P. appears next to a male character in the Crossover category (especially somebody like Logan), the possibility of slash skyrockets. Harry's special power should be magic, not his supposed ability to spread his butt-cheeks.

Heather's choice of crossing HP with Teen Titans was a canny idea. There are too many crossovers which involve some sort of DC adult mentoring Harry, who then becomes the coolest thing since sliced bread. Putting an older Harry next to a younger DC character neatly sidesteps any issues of "whiny Harry" or "Harry the Superchild". Additionally, I don't really like "Dimension Travel" in crossover stories; "Universe Fusions", like Heather's, seem more intrinsically creative, I find.

Perhaps this could be done in a Marvel crossover. When Harry finishes his schooling, mutants begin to out themselves throughout the globe. The Ministry, still recovering from the War, finds itself divided in its stance towards the Anti-Mutants movement. Some wizards believe that this is an entirely Muggle issue and hence does not necessitate intervention, while other wizards believe that this xenophobia, mirroring perhaps some of the Death Eaters' philosophies, is a cause for concern and action. Cue politics and such.

The X-Men: Evolution series involved the public's discovery of mutants somewhere in its seasons, so it could be used for such an idea. As a bonus, the "classic" X-Men such as Cyclops and Jean Grey are teenagers in this series, as well as some more popular characters such as Nightcrawler and Rogue.

Harry/Jean would be... explosive, to say the least. The challenges of dating a talented telepath, I suppose.

 

Òh, I could imagine that.

Harry's eyes lingered on Jean's rather shapely bum. Why hadn't he noticed how...curvy it was, before?

"Harry," Jean said in sudden amusement, not even turning around. "Are you looking at my rear end?"

"What? N-no..." Harry stuttered, his face turning a nice shade of crimson. His eyes still lingered, however.

"Harry." Jean said flatly, gently tapping her own right temple.

Harry sighed in defeat. "Fine."

Still hidden from view, Jean smiled demurely - it looked like he was beginning to show more than just a platonic interest in her.

 

I've read one too many "Harry joins the Justice League" stories, or "Harry is mentored by Green Lantern/Superman/Batman. They're stale. Here's for starting a new cliche where he's the one that knows a lot and is manipulating the kids into position to defeat the bad guy. It's Dumbledore!Harry. Okay, I'm not doing that. It was just a stray idea.

X-men/HP has been done to death, most of it badly. There are other types and teams of metas in the Marvel universe. X-men is just easier to write because of the almost universal familiarity with the movies and cartoons, I suppose.

Personally, I'd pick a team from Marvel's Ultimate universe. Maybe a newly created young Fantastic Four where Harry was involved in the accident in Nevada that caused their powers to manifest.

Or

Inhumans and their Terrigen Mists - alter it in a way where someone obtains a liquid form of this and introduces it into the water supply (or something, more original, to that effect) causing the local population of a major city to mutate.

Anything would do, really. All you need is a catalyst to begin the universe.

 

I always thought an amusing story would be something along the lines of Harry being an Obliviator and his current job is to clean up after all the mess Zatanna has been leaving behind when she breaks the Satute of Secrecy.

 

Yeah, I wouldn't have read it either but the author was writing a promising Sg1/HP story in July and I took a peek at his other stuff.

 

Was it any good though??

 

Story is not slash, Logan is Harry's grandfather.
Would comment on story but it has been some time since reading it.

 

Isn't Death personified in DC Comics? That could work as the basis of a crossover. Something along the lines of the newly minted Master of Death being sent to deal with those pesky superheroes who don't have the decency to stay dead?

Or maybe something better.

I'm considering a fic using the Olympians and Harry's scar being a link to them, like I've talked about in previous posts ... sort of a 'Harry's path to becoming a superhero' type story? Thoughts?