Judging by the various descriptions, this show will be worth a look this Fall (even it is going to be on NBC):

'17th Precinct' is set in the fictional city of Excelsior, a place where magic and the supernatural rule over science. The show focuses on the cops of the 17th Precinct'

'17th Precinct' comes from 'BSG' mastermind Moore, and has been described as 'Harry Potter' crossed with 'Law & Order.'


Cast:

James Callis as Jeff, a homicide detective at the 17th Precinct

Jamie Bamber as Caolan, "an extremely focused crime scene detective."

Tricia Helfer as Morgana, "a necromancer, the magical equivalent of a coroner, who is an expert at manipulating the potions, tools, herbs and spells of her trade."

Stockard Channing as Mira, a former homicide detective who now works the robbery beat.

Eamonn Walker as Detective Chief Inspector Wilder Blanks.

Matt Long as a rookie detective.

 

I'm looking forward to this even at this early stage becuase of who's involved, some BSG alumni and Ron Moore himself.

Also Tricia is really fucking hot! Especially in that Red dress.

 

Ron Moore? Eww.

I'm expecting an awesome beginning, mixed eps in the middle, and a balls up shitty ending.

I hope he keeps the religious themes a long fucking way away from this show. I couldn't stand to watch even one episode of Caprica after what he did to BSG2k4. I know that much of the direct Mormon influence was from Larson [I didn't mind that - it was good flavour], but an overwhelming amount of mystical religious bullshit was introduced during Moore's stewardship. I could have put up with that if it hadn't culminated in the worst ending for any live action TV series I've ever seen.

Eh, I'll watch 17th Precinct on an episode by episode basis. If it looks like Moore's going off the deep end again, then I'm out.

 

Have to agree with what was said by yak. I like and used to love nBSG. I was too young for oBSG but the concept was good. But the religious aspects that were pushed too much. The Colonials representing polytheism and the Cylons representing monotheism, and the two struggles going on, one physical and the other spiritual/religious, could have been handled better.

The fight/war scenes were top notch, and the early part of the show when it was still establishing itself and still in the meat of things were more than fine, but the end was...no. Just no.

As for Caprica, it was fine, but nothing to write home about. Although the actress who played Zoe had me at attention.

 

According to Screen Rant, Kristin Kruek has joined the cast.

If she is as annoying in this as she was in Smallville then you can count me out.

I did chuckle at this quote in the article though:

 

It's Kristin Kreuk.

I don't watch Smallville, but are you confusing an annoying actress with an annoying character? Perhaps it's the Smallville writers you should be annoyed at, rather than the person playing the role.

All I've seen of Kristin is in a few episodes of Chuck as a guest star. In what little I've seen of her, she seemed alright to me considering that she was playing the other woman role.

 

You may be right. I just swell up with rage every time I see her cast in something. I spent years hating her on Smallville; I guess it's just instinct by now.

 

Kreuk isn't bad and neither were the religious overtones of Moore's nBSG. I think it added something not-quite definable to the show and the universe. If anything is bad it's Ron Moore himself.

I'm sorry but if I had the importance of planning hammered into me from sixth grade on, I expect the head writer of a critically acclaimed show with millions of fans to realise it as well. With all his talk about how he was turning the Star Trek conventions on their head he kept the one that couldn't fit into his universe: episode by episode writing. It simply doesn't work when you're creating an over-arching mythology as strange as nBSG's.And the worst thing was that Moore seemed to consider his wrap-up not only adequate but good.

This show seems like it could be better, an overarching plot would make more sense. As long as it's an over-arching enemy or pattern in between the weird shit (like Walter's influence/the ZFT throughout Fringe, the Black Council in the Dresden Files). But I predict he just goes off the rails again and starts making shit up as he goes along. At least with a supernatural setting he may be more likely to find a suitable answer for all the questions he generates.

 

Looks another BSG-verse alumni is joining the show. From Caprica this time.

From Deadline: Esai Morales has joined the cast of Ron Moore's NBC drama pilot 17th Precinct. Set in a city ruled by magic, it revolves around the workings of the 17th, headed by Detective Chief Inspector Wilder Blanks (Eamonn Walker). Morales, repped Innovative and Brillstein, will play his second in command, Lt. Liam Butterfield.

 

I hope im wrong, but i have this feeling they are going to use cgi to show magic. Not effects but like HP spells. I personally think this looks shit and would like to see cgi used toward the effects of magic, like buildings burned via lightening. Actually more like how the magic in the Dresden Files is presented.

On casting note, looks like BSG: Magic, not a bad actor.

 

I'm glad he's pulling talent from BSG and Caprica. Bamber and Callis are great actors, Tricia Helfer... maybe. As long as she's not playing the same sultry seductress that gets less and less credible (for me anyway) -and repetitive- every year then we're cool. And for that matter, the less James Callis' character speechifies the better. I missed a lot of scenes in the fourth season of BSG because I simply couldn't stand it.

The cast seems good, I'm more worried about the plot now anyways. Moore really needs to tone the religious shit down- either by reducing it's general prominence and screen time or it's effect on the plot.

But overall,, I'm excited, Moore is a good writer, even if he gets in his own way sometimes, and after my other hope, The Cape imploded and the Good Wife turned out to be something other than I thought it would be, I'll take anything.

 

Well, seems like NBC decided to not pick this show and chose Grimm as its supernatural crime series for their 2011-2012 schedule. After seeing a trailer I have my doubts if that's a good decision, but have nothing to compare from 17th Precinct. What is interesting Grimm seems to have a similar basic concept to another new show (not yet confirmed) from ABC - Once Upon a Time, as both are using fables in the real world idea.

 

Huh. That's the first I've heard of Grimm. It immediately brings to mind Bill Willingham's comic, Fables, which is about fairy tale characters who're living in New York. The main character is their sheriff during the early volumes. I hope Grimm can tap into some of the cool ideas from Fables. The comic almost became a TV show a couple of times - both NBC and ABC looked at it. I don't think we'll be seeing Fables on TV any time soon unless Grimm becomes a money winning success.

 

Grimm looks nothing like Fables. There is a trailer. From what I heard about Once Upon a Time, it has a better chance to be like Willingham's masterpiece.

 

The pilot of 17th Precinct.

It definitely looks like CSI with magic and have some pretty cool concepts of using it. Shame that they didn't give it a chance.

 

I can't see shit son, blocky as hell. And even worse, when I go to look for other links they all just embedded vimeo

 

I couldn't be bothered watching it on vimeo, so I just downloaded the embedded clip. Firefox addon's ftw, will watch it later.

@scrib you tried different browsers?