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Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    He's strong enough, but he isn't a powerhouse carry or tank or anything. His abilities are harder to use because you don't have any strong nuke, your on-hit isn't a siphoning strike or devastating blow, his slow is easy to misuse, and his ult is mediocre to terrible unless used properly.
    I haven't played since the Ahri patch (go swtor) but he's a 1v5 bruiser like singed or irelia but without their strong laning. The reason he is powerful with a relatively weak set of abilities is because he has good base stats and innate cc reduction from his W, which is also what makes Irelia and Singed so strong. But you need a full build before you truly start being a powerhouse-wade-into-your-team-and-you-can't-stop-me kind of carry, like Irelia does faster with higher damage.
     
  2. Darth Disaster

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    Trundle is very underrated.

    I've never seen a better Trundle player than Trundle Bot. The funny thing is that no-one who plays normals exclusively (and there are alot of those) knows how to handle him. He's so rarely seen that when someone with even a little skill comes along.. he utterly rapes.

    And that's just sad.
     
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  3. redshell

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    Yes, I'm still on about Viktor. Seriously, I love playing under-rated champs, and then blowing some dude up with Viktor's nuke. And it's so easy to get fed, because people under-estimate me. Some Yi thought he could take me when he was at half health and I was around 3/4. Stun, nuke, power transfer if he's still alive (Does damage and, iirc, the damage dealt is given to me as a shield). I usually try and save the laser for when I'm chasing someone or to finish out a fight. Sometimes I start with it, though, as a sort of softening-them-up poke.

    Also, just to let everybody know; Viktor's stun isn't instant. It's as much a skill-shot to place as the laser is, because you have to guess where they'll be and if they'll spend the required 1.5 seconds in the dome for the stun to actually work.
     
  4. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    Played against a viktor today, and his stun managed to get 3 out of 5 people, and slowed another. The person who initiated on our team died without support. If used correctly, that stun really is good. But, like redshell said, it's hard to determine when and how it will be used beyond a simple slow.
     
  5. Link

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    0.25 seconds since the last patch, IIRC.
     
  6. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    I thought it just meant it would be .25/.75/1.25 for three ticks, rather than .5/1.0/1.5
     
  7. Duke of Rothwood

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    Alright, I just downloaded the game and am getting started. I've read through the starting tutorial but any other tips/tricks that I should be aware of?


    ps. My user name is Rothwood if anyone wants to add me and game together :)
     
  8. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Team Comp honestly doens't matter till level 15+ just fool around with champions you think look interesting in matches. Play them until you get a pretty good handle on them then try something new. A good number of champions you can play solidly is a much better then a single champion you can play pretty well. There are champion tiers naturally, but most champions ARE playable find what you like (and remember, if you get wrecked by champ X don't go burning all your IP on him Runes/Champs you like are an infinitely better investment.

    Oh! And don't let the little shit trolls that infest the >10 chat make you nerd rage :p

    Don't let the little shits on the chat
     
  9. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    /ignoreally /ignoreenemy are wonderful commands to keep in mind when playing sub 30 and at 30 as well.

    Don't just throw them out right as the game starts, but use them if your team or the enemy team is being annoying. Being heckled will make you play worse most of the time so just /ignore them and move on.
     
  10. The Berkeley Hunt

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    Also Runes are not a worth investment until level 20. That said, hoard IP until then because runes are shit expensive. Play free week champs, try to just find champs you have fun with and play with them.
     
  11. tragicmat1

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    ^ What he said. Save your ip until you get to level 20 to get tier 3 runes/rune pages. I personally recommend you don't buy champions unless you REALLY like them. There are generally enough free ones with different varieties every week that it's not necessary. On the other hand, if you do want to buy some cheap/solid champions, all of the ones that cost 450 ip (Ryze, Annie, Sivir, Ashe, Nunu, etc) are pretty good.

    Oh, and probably the defining feature that separates good and bad players is the ability to last hit. Last hitting a minion gets you gold, and more gold means you get stronger.
     
  12. Duke of Rothwood

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    Thanks for all the advice guys. I've been playing though as a few different characters, trying to get the hang out things. There are definitely some that I prefer over others but starting to get an idea of what items to buy and how the different characters match up.

    I took the advice and haven't bought any runes yet and for my masteries I've mostly been putting into stuff that boosts attack/defense, hopefully can't go too far wrong doing that.
     
  13. Evan Tide

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    Get your free champs ASAP. Trist and Alistar are pretty good at low lvl games, especially with all the kill freaks.

    Play Tanky DPS at low lvls. Rarely will people understand what Armor and MRes are for. Getting Tanky DPS vs those low defense champions means you're doing mage burst-like damage while being able to survive 1v3s easily if you get fed a bit.

    Wards are awesome. Junglers doubly so at low lvls. The ability to give your team +190 gold constantly per person at low lvls helps. I'd actually recommended Nunu as a starting jungler. Very forgiving and getting Wriggle's Lantern means fast and easy dragons every time.

    That's about all the real tips for low lvls after you learn basics.
     
  14. The Berkeley Hunt

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    Though junglers are a great advantage, if your top lane sucks (and it will) or you don't fully understand the role it may not be worth it if you're not 1500 ELO. Tanky DEEPS is definitely good. And by free champs, he means that if you like LoL on facebook and subscribe to the youtube channel you get a champion each (beta champs, but both really good ones) free. Good investment.
     
  15. redshell

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    Basically, what everyone else said. The only other advice I can really offer is pick a champ with a skillshot, and learn how to place skillshots. Just about every free week there'll be a champ with a skillshot. It's easy to shoot at someone standing still. Hard to predict where they'll be. Also, figure out your play-style ASAP. Get the two free champions, and try them out. Alistair is a tanky character who is melee and works great as support but is versatile and can fill in for someone that's sucking at AD.

    Tristana is going to be where you learn glass cannon ADs like Ashe and Caitlyn. She can't really be anything. At low levels, other players really aren't threats until they hit level 6 (This is under the assumption that you're not playing against someone's smurf), and even then, most players don't realize when and how to use their champ's ult. I swear, half the time I've played with a low-level Kayle they make themselves invincible instead of putting it on someone useful.

    I'll go a little more in-depth on character roles and examples here, just to say that I was more helpful than the others.

    AD = Attack Damage. This is your auto-attack, and basically what most people will probably go for at a low-level. Champions like Ashe, Caitlyn, Gangplank, Tristana, etc. excel here.

    AP = Ability Power. Pretty self-explanatory. Most of your damage will come from your abilities if you build this, so it's more useful for champions like Viktor, Brand, Ryze, Annie, etc. (On the subject of AP champs, Veigar is OP as fuck when up against another AP champ, and Zilean should die in a fire)

    Tank. Also self-explanatory. This guy's, obviously, going to soak up a lot of damage but never really dish it out. Generally, your tank is also your support. Pro-tip: Tanks really do not care if they die. It's a team-based game, and, like I said, they're there to soak up damage. Characters like Alistair, Blitzcrank, and Galio usually serve this role.

    Support. This is going to be your guy who's really just there to buff the team and heal them. Kayle is fucking pro for this, because of her built-in heal and invincibility spell at level 6. Supports will generally buy aura items like Will Of The Ancients and Randuin's Omen, as well as shit-loads of wards, because they're cool like that. If they don't buy wards, YOU SHOULD. Honestly, if you're just laning and have the cash plus the room, buy wards. If you're getting ganked, buy wards. If your team is about to run Baron and you just came off respawn or recall, buy wards.

    Summoner Spells: Really, run whatever you want. I will hunt you down and murder you if you run cleanse and heal, though. Your spells should go with what you're trying to play. Support? Run heal. Tank? Run heal. AD or AP? Ignite. If you don't have ignite, go exhaust. Since you're probably not level 12 yet, I'd say Ghost for your other summoner spell until level 12, then Flash.

    Websites like solomid and leaguecraft are your friend. (Personally, I use solomid, but that's me.) They'll show you suggested masteries for your champion, as well as item builds. ALSO. ITEM BUILDS ARE SUBJECTIVE, THE ONES ON THE SITES ARE A GUIDELINE.

    Yes, you should, for the most part, follow the build, because it's based around what works with the champion. However, that doesn't mean you can't switch something out to compensate for a weakness you or your team have. For example, let's say you're playing Gangplank, and you're getting hammered by their Brand. Switch out your Warmog's for Banshee's, and boom, Brand is now less of an issue.

    Well... that was less general advice and more in-depth, but I did what I could. Let me know if it helps.
     
  16. Churchey

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    Unless they changed the rune combiner, buying t1 runes is actually an amazing investment for low level players.
    T3 runes are not accessible until level 20, but lower levels can use them even if you can't acquire them.

    If you buy 25 of the t1 15ip runes and combine them (5 t1 runess-->1 t2 rune, 5 t2runes-->1 t3 rune), you spend 375 IP on a rune that at the least costs 420 and can cost up to 2k IP.
    When you have no runes and have no risk for getting, for example, a 10th armor seal, then the rune lottery is your friend. You can just rune roulette all day and also use the t3 runes you get as early as level 1.
     
  17. Evan Tide

    Evan Tide Chief Warlock DLP Supporter

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    Churchey's right on that one. There was a cost/benefits analysis that showed as long as you don't have 11(?) x9 T3 runes, keep spamming T1s for combine and you'll make profit.
     
  18. Red

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    I bought Wukong last week, I love him. Dude snowballs hard and using the s key to mime a clone makes for awesome jukes. I'll enjoy playing during this free WK week.
     
  19. tragicmat1

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    Using the stop motion Hotkeys on Wukong=more awesome jukes. People see you stop moving and are pretty good at immediately dispersing to look for you. Then you can press W for real afterwards :p
     
  20. Duke of Rothwood

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    That was really helpful, thanks. I've played a few more matches and used those guides which were posted here.

    While I am still playing against fellow noobs I think those really helped me out today, my kill/death ratio skyrocketed and the whole game just seem to move quicker in making money and pushing the enemy back. Hopefully I can keep that lucky streak going!

    I'm mostly enjoying playing as a tank character so far, something nice about being able to take a lot of hits and just keep going down the lanes. Surprising somewhat as normally I never play a tank but oh well, if it works I might as well stick with it.

    Don't suppose there are any other DLPers that are low levelled (I'm at 7 now) to play with?
     
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