If he levels E or Q, he will have high damage but low sustain. Trade small with him and use your sustain on creeps.

If he levels W he has high damage and sustain, but you just don't fight when he activates W. It's even more obvious than Irelia's true damage because he yells it out. Get him to activate it then get away and reengage whenever it turns off.

 

Swain and Kennen can handle him. He tends to shit on anything melee though, excluding Yorick.

If it's blind pick and you're not favored in the matchup vs Olaf, you can't do much more than just farm safely and ask for a gank.

 

The main problem is that he was leveling Q and W evenly, so he had a good mix of both.

I couldn't poke him out because he bought vamp scepter on first back and proceeded to out-sustain all my usual top choices. I tried waiting for W, but the even spread meant he was lethal with and without it.

The main thing is that he out-sustains me so bad, that if I went back, he'd take out my tower and probably second tower too since he escapes are stupid easy with ulti up.

Champs I've tried taking top vs him: Malzahar, Maokai, Fiora, Irelia, Vlad, Brand, Ez, Jarvan, Swain, Udyr.

The only champs I came close to remotely stopping his massive creep push without letting him weaken me enough to ulti dive were Malz and Udyr. I tried the poking game with Vlad, but I should probably use him more defensively to win.

 

I've killed him quite easily as malphite, fiora, wk, and riven. None of them have anything for sustain (fiora's is kinda useless in comparison to olaf's). I've never seen olaf as a threat because his mana is so limited early. He can throw 5 Q's level 1 and he is oom. It just isn't efficient harass or damage. He has decent regen and mana growth but his mana costs are still significant. If you dodge a few of his Qs he shouldn't have the damage to kill you. If you can't trade with him despite everything, play vlad or some bruiser with aoe clear and push the lane hard to his tower. He has to use his mana to aoe farm it as well or lose cs to the tower.

Honestly an easy way to beat a lot of the solo top champs is to start dorans blade and go hyperaggressive, then go back and buy boots or a second dorans extremely early. When you come back to lane with that 1 item advantage while he is still working to top off his hp, you go superultrahyperaggressive and kill him.

 

That's the thing. When I did pick champs that focus on early aggression, even with full combos going off on him, he was able to shrug it off and I don't fucking know how, even when I called in a gank immediately to abuse it, he still shrugged off the damage in one to two waves.

I wouldn't have a problem if I could harass him, but most champs I've tried so far haven't been able to fairly trade unless they get a gold advantage (1-2 kills worth).

It's mainly the melee champs that I play that are having problems. The last few Olafs I fought have all been smart enough to reserve Q purely for when I come in to get a last hit. My range picks can dodge it, but it's harder to dodge and still get farm with Fiora and Irelia.

I should probably try to up the aggression more, since I don't doran's start if I can help it.

I'm guessing Q start on Fiora would be the best option to press the advantage as much as possible?

 

Fiora isnt that strong of an early game harasser, imo. He can just Q you and run, and your double Q combo is like 50 dmg after armor. Throw in a couple of AAs if you land them and you deal like 200 after armor. Olaf's Q+1 AA would be close to 130 and then he sustains afterwards.

W start would be closer to 70 dmg per AA, 80 on riposte, and negates one of his AAs. That makes it a 60 dmg vs 200 trade if you push him away from the creepwave.

 

That's assuming he AAs though. The Olafs I played against just axed then ignored me when I got W first.

 

He has to come in to CS, or you are already winning the lane. Just be aware of their jungler's probably location, which is generally easy that early in the game, and you keep him off the first few creep waves or get to harass him before you go back and take a few items to make an advantage. If he axes to CS, he is spending precious mana to do it.

cloth5 bots is inferior to dorans if you come back with enough sustain to match without missing much xp.

 

I got readdicted to this again, and I bought Yorick just because I liked his lore, and I love dat sumbitch in Dominion. Him and Veigar are my new favorite playthings. I remembered why I quit playing after I went back to Summoner's Rift. Something like 25 of my last 30 games lost due to just piss poor teammates, quitters/afks. I don't have the luxury of finding one of you all usually for a premade. At least Dominion is way more forgiving if you have shitty teammates.

 

It's just a matter of playing a lot of games. Carrying your team is more than having just good laning capability, you have to be able to lead your team constructively and stop them from doing dumb shit. Just play lots of games and you'll start winning consistently.

The easiest lanes to do this in are either top or mid since you have the greatest direct impact on the flow of game. You could also jungle I guess if you want to carry harder but be prepared for a slew of whining i.e. "Why haven't you ganked my lane yet?????!?!?!?!?"

 

Uh, what? Dom is less forgiving if you have a shitty team. The only difference is that having a bad team means your match ends fast as hell compared to SR matches being dragged on until 35+ if your team refuses to surrender.

 

Did they ever fix the issue of either the accounts resetting, or if you switched over to beta/ test realm you couldn't switch back? I remember I did something then when I signed on I was level 1 with like 10k RP and IP and it made me so mad I rage quit because I'd just hit level 30 not too long ago. In retrospect, even if that is true having that much RP would mean I could rebuy all my heroes and the runes I'd need to play them without an issue.

 

Ain't that the truth. People seem to think that the jungler's job is to win their lane for them, so of course it must be the jungler's fault when they lose their lane.

My favourite ones are the morons who shove bot lane right up to the enemy turret without wards, get ruined by the enemy jungler, then blame you for not ganking.

 

I don't expect ganks. What I do expect is map awareness, especially when your team is a player down.

When I'm laning, and a lane dies (whether it's me or somebody else), I expect the jungler to go cover unless they're over halfway through getting golem or lizard. Too often do I see junglers doing a minor camp, while the tower is in the process of being destroyed 5-10 seconds away.

 

Just read the patch preview notes, and may I say, I'm hyped as shit for the Maw of Malmortius.

This item would be absolutely ridonkulous on Olaf. And it will be. When I put it on him.

 

Maw Of Malmortius is going to be epic as hell on someone with ridiculous damage output, and it'd be even better if someone had a passive or skill that did more damage as their health got lower.

 

I'm thinking Boots3 - Warmogs - Atmas - Maw - Force of Nature - Guardian Angel as a general (non-focused) endgame build.

Cruel, you say? Very. I am a cruel man.

 

Im thinking if youre going to be using it, get it early. Hexdrinker is good already, but it will be even better with reduced cost. Boots-->brut-->hex-->maw. May replace brut with wriggles depending on how big of a lifesteal nerf they made. That would be my starter build for most tanky dps champs like wukong or GP. I would also use something similar on Riven/Fiora/Trynd and other dps tops.

Most of the time I think the warmogs rush is overrated. Shen and Olaf can get away with it, but a lot of times it will just make you very beefy with very little damage. Relying on your atmas for damage can work, but expecting your first bit of damage outside your abilities to come from after you've made 6500g in items (not including wards or pots) can often lead you to a bad end. Especially in solo queue where you can't expect your team to provide damage while you tank and skirmishes are more common than teamfights.

But Maw isn't that amazing except vs mages or AP heavy teams. The passive is only 40 damage at 1hp, which makes it 95 damage, or 5 damage less than a bloodthirster. I hate the bloodthirster because you die a lot in unorganized games, but the change where you only lose half stacks means that it will be superior to maw except vs heavy AP teams for a lower cost.

So if you want damage and survivability, thirster is the way to go. It stacks too, so a second thirster is the way to go. If you need MR, FoN is probably superior and also gives the movement speed which is the most amazing stat in the game.

And heavy AP teams are so rare. Most games will pit you against a top who is probably bruiser, an AD carry bot, and a jungler who is probably AD. Fiddlesticks/Amumu/Naut for AP junglers compared to all the AD junglers out there. If I was fighting a mixed bag team with damage of both types, I think FoN synergizes better with the bruiser build than Maw. I dunno, I'm more looking forward to the nerfed price hexdrinker than the Maw itself.

I would like to try it on Blitz/Sion/Naut as a baiting build with heal. Hexdrinker/champion ability shield/locket of the iron solari+heal means you bait them all day long.

 

I don't know, I can see this item working on character's like Poppy. Low health triggers more of the passive, and Poppy can lock onto the AP champ, etc. Makes me want to try it out

 

Heh funny because Malmortius is the name of a european streamer who does all poppy all the time (or at least used to). I think that's who they named it after.

How the fuck does swain lose on cs to kass?
Or shen to nidalee?
Or leesin to maokai?

Cause thats what I'm supporting right now.