lol you tend to not so much correct, as go... SIGGGGGHHHHH and we're going to loose this one, lol. I love ya bro, but you can be a cock to game with in LoL <3

 

Jon at least has the ability to back up his talk. Not so much others here.

 

You Will Not Escape.

Ashe Slowed + enemy team is shurelya'd? No matter. Voli + Lulu + Ghost means I WILL catch you and toss you back into my team.

I swear I could HEAR the other team going "FUCKING VOLIBEAR".

I love it when people play Olaf too. Volibear DESTROYS him in lane. I just went up against one who was literally turret bound. If he left ihs turret I would half-health him or more in one combo, so he got about 30 cs by 20 something minutes in. I don't think he ever broke sixty cs despite the game going for 40 or so minutes.

Maokai tried ganking me a few times to relieve the pressure. But I'd just ult up and tank them both with passive + summoner heal. They were constantly running from me 2 v 1.

 

THough you have to admit, enemy team was derping.

They chased after the 250 AR + 3.1k HP + maxed CDR lulu everywhere.

 

I dunno about the others, but I've had some fun games with Jon, no doubt.

 

Words cannot express my rage. 40% armor penetration, jackass. 40 AD is negligible, yes, but that 40% armor pen is going to go a long way towards killing some douche that builds full armor. Also, it's fucking retarded, to me, that AP carries get gear like Nashor's Tooth (the ones that can actually use it, that is) and AD carries have Black Cleaver whose additional AD is negligible, the passive is shit when you aren't actually attacking with some degree of speed, and the additional AS is outdone by Phantom Dancer.

Meanwhile, Teemo gets a Nashor's Tooth and a Malady and is suddenly ganking everyone and their mother in five seconds.

 

There are people who actually buy Nashor's Tooth in non-troll games?

 

Fuuuuuuuu, I hate pros for making Urgot a popular bot lane pick. Get hit with that stupid grenade and watch that Q fuck you for 2/3rds health.

Wat do?

 

Why would you compare Nashor's Tooth to Black Cleaver o,0 The only champs I can think of that would even use Nashor's tooth may be Kayle, and it's pretty lackluster even in that case. Black Cleaver on the other hand, is a great item for lots of characters ( Vayne, Ezreal, some solo tops when they are fed, etc). Since any attacks that deals on-hit effects procs the ability, it works well for some champions.

Nashor Tooth, on the other hand, how many champions uses AP and Attack Speed? Maybe Teemo again once he gets his bug fixed. (Actually, once it gets fixed, it'll probably be a pretty strong item. But until then, no.)

Yeah, Urgot is pretty strong during laning phase. The best you can really do is grab boots and pots first, and hope you dodge those grenades. Sometimes, if you are far away, you can get away. Otherwise, it may be smarter to just trade a couple hits with the Urgot since you are going to get hit anyways.

 

It's a very strong item on Nautilus, but he is the first character I've built it on...ever. It's amazingly itemized though. Compare it to morellos and you lose out on like 2 mana regen and 10 ap for 50% attackspeed and 5% cdr, and the gold difference is only 500g. Anyone who can make use of its stats should look at it, because it is amazing value, similar to rageblade.

 

The problem with Naut is that his base attack speed is even lower than Sion's, which makes him slightly "above average" when it comes to using Nashor's.

Compared to FHeart, which can make him much more bulky and help his team better or Reverie for speed, HP, and sustain.

 

Frozen heart makes him bulkier vs an AD team but a nashors increases his damage by a literal shit ton. Since Naut jungle is where I most commonly get stuck, a quick 1090g on a stinger after HoG/Philo/Boots pretty much doubles my clearing speed and makes my damage in ganks more relevant. Shurelyas is pretty standard on every tanky DPS these days, and I normally grab it afterwards. Comparing a Shurelyas to an early game CDR item is pretty silly, because you should never be turning your philo into a shurelyas that early.

It's also much more cost effective. Frozen Heart gives you the armor, but the 20% cdr and the attackspeed slow cost you an extra 500g. With Nashors, you get what you pay for in attackspeed, mana regen, and ability power and more (about 375g worth of extra stats), then it gives you 25% cdr on top of that for free.

I didn't believe it would work either, but Chu8 recommended it and so I tried it out and it was pretty amazing. I find frozen heart to be pretty overrated on most of my tank characters anyway. On nautilus, the 20% attackspeed reduction is nice, but not gamebreaking in anyway. The large amount of armor is also nice, but not nearly as effective as a single wardens mail for reducing the damage YOU take in terms of gold value, and the wardens mail can turn into randuins which is much better for your team.

 

Sigh. 0/15 Yorick with revive teleport. 2/17 vlad with revive promote. 10/17 morde with revive promote. He built a tiamat and a sword of the occult then just used his ult to ks.

Somehow, I kept my score positive by chunking TF and Lux as often as possible. Even got a triple kill at one point.

At this point my attitude is this: If I'm obviously going to lose because of trolls/feeders/leavers.. I'm happy so long as I end the game with a positive score and fair cs.

Anyone who says Viktor is bad/useless/worthless/etc is wrong. Flat. Out. Wrong. His W is awesome for teamfights. Positioning, denial, and choking off. I can't tell you how funny it is to trap an entire team in one of the ramps down into the baron part of river, then chunk them all with my E+ R combo while my team tears them apart.

Or how funny it is to see the frustration from melee gankers when my W completely shuts them down and allows me to get away with little damage taken.

The .5 second silence on his Ult is mainly there for ruining natural flow and causing people to make mistakes when their first reaction (usually flash) is denied them. But it, also, is useful in teamfights, giving my team just that little extra edge. Used at the right moment it can completely ruin an initiation. Especially on teamcomps that are very dependent on one team member.

AT one point my E alone knocked out 40% of TF's health. BEFORE the 30% DoT. I did some rough estimates and realised I could have killed him at about 55% to 60% health.

With one ability. That is not a single target, has a large range, and is versatile in it's targeting and pathing.

If they bug fixed his E, he'd be even stronger. I can't tell you how many kills I've lost because it bugged out and didn't hit the champ it JUST went right through.

 

My goal at that point is to make sure to get them to admit something about trolling in the chatlog so your report holds more weight.

 

Agreed, however, having played him, you have to have realized that he's underpowered. Also, that bug on his E is so frustrating. Or, my personal favorite, the bug where his laser does the damage but doesn't move across the terrain. It just digs a trench by Viktor's feet.

 

Ah. I see why you get Nashor's now. I tend to go bot lane support, so I don't have the need to mass clear waves fast, while jungle Naut does. I only need 1-2 autos per engagement, and my base attack speed is more than enough unless they have a malphite with Fheart.

 

I actually kind of like that bug. It's pretty funny. I've seen enemy champs have a few 'WTF' moments when they die for seemingly no reason after my laser hits the ground.

 

Viktor seems pretty hit or miss. I haven't played him (ever) and rarely played against him (twice). Both times I fought him I raped his little mechanical asshole in, but I've definitely been in games where my mid got raped by him. It might've been a "wtf does this character do oh god oh god why am I dead" kind of thing that seems to happen with less popular characters.

And I just don't think frozen heart is a good buy for Naut. His shield scales off HP and AP, his E scales off of AP, his R AP, his Q AP. He can make use of attackspeed with his shield for quite a bit of damage and it can help him apply his passive to more targets in quick succession. The armor does make him tankier and the attackspeed reduction is nice, but I think that there are better options in most games.

By far, the best buy on him is CDR, so you can get your ult to that 48 second ult, 6 second hook, and 10.8 second shield. If you aren't in the business of dealing damage, I still think that there are better CDR items for him. Shurelias is an obvious strong buy, but for the rest of your CDR I think stacking HP would be the best bet for the synergy with his shield. That makes Spirit visage, zekes herald, randuins, and even soul shroud better options if you aren't facing heavy attackspeed reliant opposition. Just my two cents.

 

Never said I used FHeart ever on Naut. Just saying the cost v benefits from a laning perspective looked pretty bad.

Personally, It's reverie, Randuin's, and Masteries for 32% then call it a day. That's more than enough for my needs. Maybe get a blue pot or use some other CDR item if I don't get the defense CDR mastery.

 

I have discovered a new favorite champion.

Yorick.

Went 14/2/17, by endgame I was an unstoppable, unpushable juggernaut. Tankier than Singed but doing more damage than MF or Teemo.

I just hard countered Teemo and Shaco. It was hilarious. They'd pop their little mushrooms and boxes down.. and I'd just get them to go off with a quick W. LOL. I'm going to be playing lots of Yorick this coming week, since Teemo is about to be bug fixed AND buffed.

And, well, I HATE Shaco. Fucking. Hate. Him.

So the fact that I can check bushes and completely counter his bush camping shit in lane is a big pro.