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Discussion in 'League of Legends' started by Jon, Mar 18, 2010.

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  1. Churchey

    Churchey Supreme Mugwump

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    16-7-11 and still lose =/
    AP blitz is amazing late game, even though my team tried to say otherwise.
    ANY blitz can make an amazing grab (or even mediocre) in the late game and force a 4v5 with a pickoff.
    AP blitz can do that, except his pickoff deals 1500 damage with the hook+lichbane fist combo.
    Then on top of that, he has a lux ult. It can't snipe, but its base cd is 30 seconds, meaning you can use it twice a fight in some cases. Except it also deals 500+1.0 damage, meaning a good 1000 with a lichbane/deathcap+brilliance pot.

    But our soraka rushed a shurelyas (without a second gp5 or any wards, just boots+shurelias), Riven had no lifesteal at 44 minutes, and Ashe wanted to throw the game. They are up 4 kills but we are up 3 towers, and she starts surrendering at 20, throwing them up every single timer. Eventually, while we have baron and have their inhib down, she runs down mid lane and starts autoattack nautilus, who ccs her long enough for akali to get there and 3 shot her.

    If there is one thing I cannot fucking stand, one thing that makes me rage, one thing that is just infuriating, it's people who give up over trivial shit.
     
  2. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Alright so I need advice on this, besides dodging the cleaver which I've already got down how can I beat a Mundo on either Xin Zhao or Warwick? I try constantly to beat good Mundo players and I can just never fucking manage it and it drives me insane. I don't have nearly this much trouble with literally any other character in the game I've fought.
     
  3. Jon

    Jon The Demon Mayor Admin DLP Supporter

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    Ignite or Executioners Calling. :awesome OR BOTH

    Wait does ignite still reduce healing? o_o
     
  4. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I'll try anything, there is literally no one in the game I hate more than Mundo and anyone who plays him.
     
  5. Zerg_Lurker

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    I think Tristana's E also reduces healing, and both she and Ashe can kite him like a boss.

    If you're up against a jungle Mundo then I like to ward up and get my team to just CC his ass into the ground when he gets ready to gank. Madred's on the AD carry might help.
     
  6. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    If it works Ill play any character, I just hate Mundo with such a passion I'm relatively certain its unhealthy. I've gotten to the point where if I'm playing against a team with someone on Mundo I will go out of my way to any degree at all to make their game as miserable as possible for picking Mundo so they decide that playing him is never worth it. The more I can do to make sure no one plays that son of a bitch ever the better.
     
  7. Midknight

    Midknight Middy is SPAI! DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    I've had a few games where we came back from either no towers up, or only the two towers at Nexus left, against almost a total tower setup for the other team, just from backdooring towers with teleport, or acing the other team. Folks do give up too easy, I agree.
     
  8. Churchey

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    Speaking of, I just came back from a game where we had 1 tower taken to their 11. Yes, 11. As in, no building standing but the Nexus.

    What's so great about that? AP Nunu. We had a swain who was bitching and once again, trying to surrender from 20 minutes on. He got pissed that the graves insulted him so went top and never left, all inhibs down, he goes out and solo pushes all day. Completely useless, refused to ever join the team, more or less intentionally feeding. But the game went on so long that Graves had BT/PD/PD/IE/Warmogs/GA (to counter their bursty AP leblanc/ryze combo), Sona had 600AP and a lichbane, Maokai was full tank, and I also had 600AP, lichbane, and GA.

    My Q hit for 1k, and my consume healed me for 1700. I got a half ult off on their just-finished-spawning nexus creepwave while we were making the final push, and it healed me for around 4.5k.
     
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    There is a little guy named Teemo who you might want to meet.
     
  10. Evan Tide

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  11. Krogan

    Krogan Alien in a Hat ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I cant, I thought he was too cutesy before but then I saw him in that bunny outfit skin and I literally just cannot take him seriously to save my own life. I don't even give a shit if he kills me, I cant stop laughing at him.
     
  12. Zerg_Lurker

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    CAPTAIN TEEMO ON DUTY!

    Playing d'aww Teemo is also good for rage :3. Teemo/Tristana OTP by the way.

    You'd probably need enough cc to lock her down with her jump, ult and possibly flash. She's almost as much of a glass cannon as Kog'Maw so early game burst might do the trick.
     
  13. Krogan

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    Yeah like the damage isn't hard at all, if I can ever get her to stand still I could scalp her with my eyes closed but she somehow always manages to slip away from me even with CC and its twelve kinds of aggravating.
     
  14. Mishie

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    Play Karthus, laugh at their pathetic attempts at escape, nobody can outrage your ulti ;).
     
  15. Krogan

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    I meant to during his free week but I completely forgot :/. I just kept putting it off and fucking around with Wukong until it was too late.
     
  16. Mibu

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    anivia is great and is used often even in tournaments so i dont know what you mean.. unless people haven't been playing her since bluebuff nerf..

    her low hp isnt really a factor considering her passive.. her real weakness is her weak early game until blue buff

    if their team has strong jungler and/or mid, then they can abuse anivia's weak lane and start snowballing.

    not to mention assassins can cause her some troubles (leblanc, kassadin especially, and even shaco)


    amumu is pretty meh..

    1) his jungle is dependent on blue buff
    2) he is worthless without his ultimate which has a retardedly large cooldown

    he is only really viable with double ap team cause

    1) you have squishy team and need a tank not a bruiser

    2) his ult synergizes well with most ap (brand for exampe will easily get 5 bounces on his ult with amumu ult)

    3) he reduces enemies magic resist with his attack and abyssal scepter is really good on him

    sejuani i dont know too too much about her but she is good and, unlike amumu, she is versatile...

    she is really mobile and has crazy CC meaning

    1) she has strong ganks
    2) she can rush oracles since she wont die
    3) she has strong initiation

    yes lol, no one would take ignite if it didnt
    ignite, executioners, mf, tristana, fizz, and katarina all can reduce healing.
     
  17. Lb13

    Lb13 Second Year

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    Holy fucking shit. I was just able to carry a terrible game where the enemy Lee Sin went 7/0 in the first 15 minutes and our Ezreal intentionally fed the Olaf I was laning against. Thing is I was able to do it as a Nasus against a Teemo and Olaf. It baffles me how games can shift from a clear loss to victory by enemy surrender.

    I can't really say anything on Hecarim since I haven't played him yet, and I pretty much ate my words regarding Nautilus when his free week came around, but I will say that he looks bad ass.
     
  18. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    Well, if there's any character that can carry an entire team once farmed, it'd be Nasus. That guy can 1v5 whole teams o,0
     
  19. Fenraellis

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    Your team is losing a fight, and the enemy team is still all at good health?
    "...and then along came the (farmed)Nasus...":awesome

    :EDIT:
    Sadly, my personal best is still at +999 on my Q. Just one more minion to pass 1k bonus, but their Nexus died to minions even after our entire team pulled out.:(

    In a completely legitimate game where we were not utterly curb-stomping for the most part(outside of my presence in the occasional teamfights), I still managed a +993, which was my previous record. It was in under an hour too, which was fun. I believe the standard is supposed to be:
    10 minutes = 99~150
    20 minutes = 198~300
    20 minutes+ = 99~198/10 minutes (depending on factors such as how much time you can afford to farm rather than be with your team, of course)

    By mid-late game with CDR, you should be able to get at least five minions per wave with your Q, which would get you around +30 on your Q per minute even if you never left the lane. Personally, I prefer to grab the Glacial Shroud (and sometimes Negatron Cloak) before my Sheen, as it gives more mana and the CDR means more Q's. Timing the last hits without the Sheen damage isn't difficult, and that early in the game, it's only the difference of perhaps 80 damage I believe, which is only 27 Q-kills anyway. The more frequent Q-farming will pay off in the end much of the time.

    That, and there is rarely a circumstance where the extra armor to withstand harass from my opponent, and the cdr/mana besides, is less useful than the extra damage proc from Sheen. One obvious exception being against an AP-Top, when a Negatron and Sheen before the Glacial Shroud would likely serve me more good.

    Heck, I even grab a couple of mana potions in the early game sometimes, simply to get about 3-4 more Q's off per potion before I recall to buy something, or to get enough for a Wither and extra Q's if the Jungler wants to gank but my mana is low from farming. Of course, if I'm lucky enough to be blue side with a mid like Katarina or Kennen, and a Jungler like Shyvana or Mundo, then it's a happy farming day for Nasus with Blue Buff indeed.
     
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  20. tragicmat1

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    That's not so much standard, but rather IDEAL. 200 cs by 20 minute mark is almost a near perfect score, and is not the easiest thing unless you have pure farming champs or champs that can blow up minion waves from early on (Morgana, Gragas, Mordekaiser comes to mind). If enemy top lets a NASUS to get that much farm by 20 minutes, it's gg :p For 200 CS, assuming your enemy does not directly counter you, I think aiming for it by 25 minutes is a bit more realistic. A Nasus with 300 farm is usually a good amount to aim for by the time late game team fights begin, and any more that usually means the game has gone on for way too long.
     
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