He enjoyed his freedom of ignoring you guys.

 

The changes to Morello's looks interesting, but I don't think it'll really make it a go-to item.
Morello's was always an inferior DFG, and with the nerf to DFG and this new active it might be a situational buy vs Mundo, Soraka, Vlad, etc. However, why would you ever want another healing debuff when Ignite does that just fine. You also can't argue with DFG's extra 25% spell active.
At best, it'll be a situational 5th or last item.

Haunting Guise's change is interesting because the new recipe puts Guise as basically a direct competitor to Hextech Revolver. It looks good, but I think Spell Vamp is just very strong on AP champions, and Will of the Ancients is just amazing. Therefore, Revolver will almost always be chosen over Haunting Guise. If you look at Guise as extra Spell Penetration, it looks quite a bit steep. Why prioritize 20 spell pen over say, Needlessly Large Rod and an eventual Void Staff?
Perhaps if it upgraded into something Haunting Guise would see more use.

The changes to Haunting Guise and Morello's looks good, but I don't think the AP Caster items will see any change. WoTA, Rylai's, Deathcap, Rod of Ages, Zhonya's, DFG are probably by far the better items.

 

20 sec cooldown on it means you can fight those characters in lane without needing to burst them 100-0 or wait for a ballsdeep gank.

 

That still doesn't seem to make it much of an incentive. I admit I don't play a lot of solo lanes, as I usually play Jungler/AD/Support, but I see this as similar to Tristana's healing debuff.

It's excellent and can prevent a lot of heal and sustain, and will probably allow you to win your lane. However I feel spending 2.3k gold on this just to beat Vlad in lane (tag Vlad with debuff, trade spells, win lane) isn't ideal. AP carries should be dominating and exerting their presence throughout midgame when you would conceivably have this item.

A lot of games can be won by having double AP rush WoTA, and immediately forcing a teamfight at dragon with that amazing aura. Another single target healing debuff won't impact a fight in such a way. It's just not strong enough to make up for having a subpar item in every other way. Buying Rylai's on Brand for a slow on the entire enemy team thanks to his passive, or Zhonya's for Morgana to safely get into the middle of the enemy, is much more important than this active.

 

Wait, wasn't that Zeph??

 

You know who I've decided love this item the most? Heimerdinger. Makes rockets hit harder, gives him ms to escape, and also to get to a place where he can lay turrets faster. One of his current issues in Crystal Scar, to my knowledge, is his mobility. This item will help solve that issue, and if you rushed deathcap it gets even more powerful, and since its Heimerdinger, who doesn't rush deathcap or zhonya?

I can see this being a fourth item on him as a mid in a troll game. Not sure if it makes him viable yet, but when this goes live I may try it. I know this is going to make him a major pain in dominion, where his power.as a bot laner is monstrous.

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You know who I've decided love this item the most? Heimerdinger. Makes rockets hit harder, gives him ms to escape, and also to get to a place where he can lay turrets faster. One of his current issues in Crystal Scar, to my knowledge, is his mobility. This item will help solve that issue, and if you rushed deathcap it gets even more powerful, and since its Heimerdinger, who doesn't rush deathcap or zhonya?

I can see this being a fourth item on him as a mid in a troll game. Not sure if it makes him viable yet, but when this goes live I may try it. I know this is going to make him a major pain in dominion, where his power.as a bot laner is monstrous.

 

ap,hp,spellpen are like the 3 most important stats to an ap carry lol..

its just that it puts you behind on your core items. (morgana needs hourglass and deathcap, cass needs wota and either tanky item or deathcap, etc) and its a small item taking up a slot. not to mention the flat spell pen isnt that good against bruisers and tanks.

the champions that dont need those items because they just want to 100-0 squishies (annie, assassins, etc) love it.

if its a normal game, its not a game to be taken seriously.. this is well known by everyone except you lol

no offence, but you'll never be good with that attitude.. if thats the kind of shit that makes you not want to play then no one will want you on their team.

and by 'team' i dont mean the 4 people you get paired with in solo queue. i mean the 4 people you scrim against other teams with.

i was the lowest elo on my team when i joined(1700), but it didnt matter because i didnt rage at my team when they made mistakes or lost their lane. which is the most important thing, because when you're on a team you improve so quickly with the help of your teammates its ridiculous.

 

Hmm, I was not aware that DLP had such an active LoL community. A group that apparently actually bothers to play together. That's pretty amazing seeing as how many forums say things like that and never bother to try.

I'll admit I'm not that great a player seeing as how last time I checked my ELO was 1277, but I never even finished my placement matches for both Season 1 and 2. I almost always end up going Solo Que or playing 5v5 premades with my friends. It's really interesting to see that there seem to be (fairly) high level players here.

Anyway, excited about the Annie and Talon buffs. Since Talon recently dominated CLG during Tournament play in OGN, it'll be interesting to see if people will pick him up again. Him plus his Strider Hiryu skin is amaaaazing.

 

Is that so? And what about the people who take it seriously and play normals because they don't think they're ready for ranked, or to get the IP for runes without negatively affecting their ELO?

No offense, but an ellipsis is meant to be read as a pause in speech. And another thing, you must have the patience of a saint to put up with that kind of shit. Me, I'm one of those people who expects you to try your hardest whenever you play with me, even if I know you won't meet my standards. Also, please learn capitalization and proper grammar. Ellipses are not there for you to sprinkle into text like seasoning.

It's funny, because I outright said that I got invited to the game. So no, this wasn't solo queue being solo queue, this was people that I had a mutual friend with. Now, I know she's not that great, so I didn't expect anything special from her, but I'm sorry if I expected better from the three other level 30s.

 

You can hit level 30 without winning a single game. I also know people who just play Co-op vs AI due to the ragers in real games and they've managed to grind up to 30. The very best you can hope for is warding properly and telling your team what you think they should do. If your team doesn't respond, all you can hope for is that your pain ends quickly. It's not like High ELO doesn't run into problems of their own. Look at Saintviscious and Hotshotgg for examples of pros playing like asshats. Look at M5.

 

Yeah, we just had a 5v5 Custom In house game last night. Pretty fun stuff, if not for the fact it took forever and it was 4:33 AM for me

 

This was the topic of discussion a few pages back, and yeah, I agree with you. As I said, there should not be XP awarded for losses. I suppose it could be conditional, like if your team surrenders at 20 minutes or you lose before that, you don't get XP. As the game goes on, more XP could be awarded, with say a 45 minute game hitting the wall and there not being anymore XP awarded after that.

Also, in my opinion, the amount of reports a player gets should count against them. They shouldn't just come up for review in the Tribunal, they should actually be punished for being an asshat. Get levels taken away. Hell, if they actually get a ban, reset them to level 1.

That's essentially what happened. At least a third of my gold went into wards, and I had river bush, tri-bush, and dragon warded. Nobody called MIAs, mid and top didn't ward for shit, nobody pinged. I wasn't on the skype call, so even if they called MIAs to each other, I didn't receive that courtesy.

As I said, this wasn't a randumbs game either, this was a game that I was invited to. People that I had a mutual friend with.

 

Except for trooper trolling ALL the teams with the worst picks, summoner spells, and positioning possible.

Heal/Clarity HP Stacking GP herpa derp all over the place for 50 minutes.

 

I believe the way LoL matchmaking works is that everyone gets to level fairly due to the inclusion of summoner spells and masteries. LoL doesn't exist to punish people for losing. It's a game after all. If you suck in Counter-Strike, the game doesn't kick you in the balls and raise its prices on guns.

This is supposed to be balanced out by invisible normal ELO where the game tries to match your current skill level with other players with relatively similar skill. Hence why even for Solo Que, high and low level players get ridiculous wait times of around 30 minutes. Of course, this system gets completely demolished during premade games in which LoL priority changes more towards finding other premades. That was probably what happened to you. If you were the highest ranking ELO player, the system didn't care because the other 4 players were far below you and had to compensate for it.

You're forgetting that Riot is a business. Since its acquisition by Tencent in particular the general feeling is that Riot's become mercenary (such as the removal of Double IP weekends, All champions free weekends, etc...). By actively removing progress from players who might have spent money on the game, they discourage players from returning if they feel they've been cheated. All Tribunal review cases are sent to Riot Employees as well. They're the ones who make the final decision on bans anyway.

And hilariously enough, Tribunal works. As evidenced by the times when countless players crying about unfair bans report to the forums, and Pendragon ends up justifying the bans.

Here are a number of threads showing the law.

All I can say is them's the breaks and better luck next time. Grab a snack, play a Co-Op game to stomp bots, then try again. Might not seem like much, but it definitely takes your mind off things.

 

Oh come on, are you forgetting about our own Hekarim that went 4 zeals, then later changed into AP build with Deathcap and all that? I was so tired by the end of that game, with nobody hitting nexus and inhibts, I went and bought an IE after selling my WOTA. =,= Still had like 3k left over gold too.

 

if you're not good enough for ranked, then don't rage when people fuck around in normal games. its just that simple.

its funny, because i wasn't talking about this particular match. i was talking about how you will never be good at this game, because you wont ever get on a team with your attitude.

i just didn't want you to mix up 'team' with 'friends that invited you to a normal game' which you did anyways.

 

I'd take Jon on AP Heracrim every time over that GP.

 

I gotta say, it doesn't matter whether it's a normal or a ranked, you should still try. If you really want to troll, make a custom for it. Or play a vs ai.

 

I dunno what you're talking about seeing as how Hecarim's made Lvl 5 boots and Zeal stacking possible. Plus at least he has AP ratios.

You haven't seen true rage unless you've seen a full 6 item build Annie rage and go pure AD in a desperate attempt to rush an enemy Nexus.