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STAR WARS III (A Death Eaters Variant) :: Concluded [Rebels Win]

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Zeitgeist, Apr 28, 2012.

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  1. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Sesc, could you please explain that little bit I quoted in 218? I'm honestly lost trying to figure out what you meant.

    And mister Eido sir, your role reads.

    Vira:

    I was thinking of her as a lurker but looking over her total post count she's got a decent number to her name, so there's that lack of thread presence. Day 1 was the second vote on the Ollie lynch train with a frankly bullshit explanation (Ollie's random Day 1 iss suspicious). Next post was at the halfway point for Day 2 throwing a vote onto Ollie again, with a 'we can rescind votes later if neccessary' disclaimer.

    Now a post with some content!

    Its a very interesting town player that makes scum!coaching posts while at the same time giving scum players a post to fall back onto to defend themselves like 'X isn't the way scum would behave ergo I'm not scum'.

    And finally her Day 3 post:

    Complete and utter placeholder post. Ollie wasn't being scummy as fuck. He was a Day 1 lynch, at best, that got shoved onto Day 2. Then she preemptively excuses her lurkerdom AND makes the amazing ++Town observation of we HAD to kill him or he'd keep splitting the votes. Nae'blis was clearly the better looking lynch target yesterday.

    Vira: Is a bandwagon you know is against a townie worth a lynch in this game?


    Republic:


    Few of his posts have real content but the leaps in reasoning and logic seem pretty consistent with town!Republic. On the other hand he has Eido pegged as scum which, for some reason has led him to fingering the majority of town voices as a scum team.

    Question for you Republic.

    Explain this please. I can't for the life of me figure out how Ollie being town -> Eido being scum.

    This needs to be answered ASAP as a lot of his posts become a lot more questionable depending on the answer.


    Jeram:


    Hard-core turbolurkage. Like, three posts total in the thread.

    First post, waffling little bit of filler. Third post waffling bit of filler with a vote attached.

    Second:

    Its like.. for everything you say its one step forward, one step back and two to the side.

    Jeram: A player makes one post a day. It is of decent length but every point he makes he either trivializes or makes a counter point in the same breath. How scummy do you consider this player?


    Cheddar:


    She's a SPAI!! But seriously she has yet to post. hgf on the other hand..
    Started out by saying he was basically going to be absent from Day 1 then makes two curious posts 165 and 168. Normally I wouldn't look any deeper into them but in 168 he mentioned Eido as scummy which raised some flags. Looking at the placement of the posts, especially the preceding posts by Republic, and its hard to deny the similarity.

    Like copy paste similarity. Someone wanted to post without putting any original thought into it. Add on the questionable circumstances that got Taure, hgf and Stojil replaced and it makes a group of people that HAVE to be watched closely.


    Krogan/Stojil


    Makes the same bs start to thread as so many others did 'I'll be absent for X excuse' but at least he did post something content wise along with it.

    That sums up a lot of his posts actually: content. He's made efforts to get conversations going has a decent post count underneath his belt. Republic (and hgf iirc) fingered him as suspicious but that just lends evidence to the fact that he was throwing names out without considering what they posted.

    Krogan though.. lack of posts on his part. Need to see him get in here and if his posts are consistent with Stojil's.

    ---------- Post automerged at 02:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:16 AM ----------

    And unless I've missed my count I'm sitting at 6 votes. 8 for a lynch. Don't do this on account of what Nae'blis posted. Look at what I've said and judge from there.
     
  2. Schrodinger

    Schrodinger Muggle ~ Prestige ~

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    It's gonna be either you or a split vote, man. If you're a townie, vote for yourself to get this over with.
     
  3. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Mmmph, I dislike that I don't find you (Kalas) as scummy. It causes me to second guess my opinion, which was based on Naeblis. You could just be better at disguising it. I also hate feeling like a lynch HAS to go through on someone due to people not being able to be around before day will end. I honestly think this game needs to rethink the 24 hour days. I know that during a long day, things drag on, but this is madness. Especially because a LOT of us are on a different schedule than Zeitgeist, who is in Australia.
     
  4. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    That's.. wow. No. Splitting the vote is the most go to, bullshit justification for a weak lynch. And bringing it up like that? Its not +town Schro, its downright WW scummy.
     
  5. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Yeah, I'm sick of the splitting the vote justification. It's such an easy cop out. And it's easy for town to fall into as well, because it is a very real fear.
     
  6. Schrodinger

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    Hell no. No way are you painting me as a witch. If you and ash both vote for you, you get lynched: if you're a townie, we know we need a major rethink of strategy, if you're not, then awesome. Either way, more progress than a no-lynch. if you weren't an Imperial Spai, you'd see that.
     
  7. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    So take myself out of the game so you can have your wrong conclusions spelled out for you, rather then you take 10 minutes of your own time to browse the thread and realize it? I don't think so.

    Your grasping at straws here. So if you want more votes make a fucking case Schrodinger. But don't expect to sit there, tell me to lynch myself and get mad when I call you out on it.
     
  8. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    I certainly don't expect you to vote for yourself. I expect other people to come in and fucking post and vote. We have plenty of time, but a long Twilight would be helpful.
     
  9. Eidolonic

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    Woke up, feeling a little better. Though I swear I had a slightly drunken dream about a tap dancing T-Rex...

    201 - Eidolonic vote Kalas
    230 - Custer vote Kalas
    231 - Schrodinger vote Kalas
    238 - Ash vote Kalas
    239 - Sesc vote Kalas
    240 - Vira vote Kalas

    We are one vote short of the hammer, and in this case, we actually 'want' to hammer it early, to see the flip and make use of Twilight.

    The non-voters at this point look pretty bad, other than LochNess, who has a little more leeway at this point.

    So, people that can put the final vote down:

    BillDoor
    Cheddar
    Republic
    Jeram
    Krogan
    Kalas
    LochNess

    The fact that some of those names aren't voting is pretty telling, methinks.

    Cheddar, Republic, Jeram, Krogan. Assuming Kalas flips scum, and we hit up Bill tomorrow, those are the names I'd be looking into. Not voting for their scumbuddy is just horrific scum play, but... it is what it is. Cheddar and Krogan haven't posted at all since replacing in, so I'm a little softer on those, but Republic and Jeram just look bad at this point.
     
  10. Ash

    Ash Moves Like Jagger DLP Supporter

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    Gonna go to bed now, nothing I can do right now. Will be asleep when day ends I believe. I look forward to seeing how this day concludes.
     
  11. Eidolonic

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    We have a little under 3 hours... I think.

    I'm going to flip all the tables if we no lynch.

    Seriously. Table flipping. It won't be pretty.
     
  12. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Obviously, trying to separate a role into two persons (one of which you can blame for every derp) is not valid. There is no 'Naeblis' and 'Kalas', there is only the role, and that played the way it did. You can't just separate it or ask for it to be forgotten. But you know that yourself :|

    And yes, the fact we do not yet have a lynch is telling.
     
  13. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    Eh. I've asked to be replaced, but since Zeit hasn't said anything yet, I'll vote, if only to avoid the no lynch. I don't have anything in particular to add. General boredom is the main reason I want to be replaced. Analyzing posts is a hassle, and I can't bring myself to do it at this time.

    Vote Player: Kalas
     
  14. Eidolonic

    Eidolonic Supreme Mugwump

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    And that's a hammer.

    201 - Eidolonic vote Kalas
    230 - Custer vote Kalas
    231 - Schrodinger vote Kalas
    238 - Ash vote Kalas
    239 - Sesc vote Kalas
    240 - Vira vote Kalas
    253 - Republic vote Kalas

    13 alive, 7 to majority. Just to make Zeit's life easier.

    We 'should' have ~2.5 hours of Twilight time left. Would like to see the flip soon, though, so we can actually discuss something useful in this time we have remaining.

    ---------- Post automerged at 07:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:27 AM ----------

    Seems like we only have ~30 more minutes of 'Twilight' left. Unless Zeit grants us the 2.5 hours we earned after posting Kalas' flip.

    In terms of cop checks for tonight, it probably depends how Kalas turns:

    If Kalas is scum, Bill gets lynched tomorrow, and probably isn't worth wasting a check on. Vira or Jeram are probably the best targets to check in that scenario.

    If Kalas is town, then... I don't even know. Still probably Vira or Jeram to check? Use your own judgement, since in those scenarios I'm apparently beyond awful at this game. Maybe LochNess if Kalas is town, actually.

    Do remember that innocent check result doesn't 100% mean innocence. One of the scum roles returns a false check, similar to the Godfather in traditional games.

    Doc... not going to tell you how to play your role, but I'd appreciate you at least considering keeping me alive tonight. I can't imagine scum like active players, even if I am strictly a vanilla role. The threat of protection alone might lead them to targeting a lurking town, or someone that I'm undecided on. Which would be lovely.

    If Kalas flips scum, and you don't protect me, then I highly recommend one of the people that I consider almost absolute town in those worlds: Ash, Sesc, or LochNess.

    Smuggler! If you die in the night, and Kalas flips scum, BillDoor is a safe target to select. If Kalas flips town, Vira/Jeram.

    I guess that's most of what we would have discussed during Twilight. But I ask people to go back and look over posts during the night phase to try and determine our future course of action.

    Here's my current readlist, from most town to least:

    Deadlist:
    Ollie
    Aekiel
    Riley

    Kalas

    Livelist:
    Eidolonic
    LochNess
    Ash
    Sesc

    Custer
    Cheddar
    Krogan

    Schrodinger
    Republic
    Vira
    Jeram

    Bill

    I'd appreciate input on other people in sorting out the orange/yellow mess in which we'll probably find our remaining scum (assuming Kalas is scum). We're behind in the game due to no lynches and mislynch first two days, but we can still pull out the win pretty easy - the next 2-3 days are absolutely critical, though!

    ---------- Post automerged at 07:58 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:33 AM ----------

    I'm heading out for the day, and I guess day officially ends in 3 minutes. So I won't be around if there is a twilight extension sort of thing anytime soon. I've said all I have to say.
     
  15. Zeitgeist

    Zeitgeist High Inquisitor

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    Jeram, CheddarTrek, you have been officially warned, for failing to meeting the one non-voting post per Day rule. Raise your standards (or PM me a legitimate excuse), or you will be replaced after two more strikes.

    This is something I should address: I would appreciate if players don't post unofficial tallies. They actually confuse things a great deal more for game hosts: players in the past have made mistakes in tallying, and I cannot afford to rely on imprecise measures. No unofficial tallies. But Eidolonic, I do applaud your enthusiasm towards this game. Your effort is commendable.

    LochNess's vote does not count because it was outside the 10:00PM deadline. Since a majority was reached with two hours to spare, I will grant a two hour Twilight, whilst deleting posts which were made after 10:00PM. Also, please note that while Twilight theoretically occurs when a majority is reached, it is really only applied when I can actually get on a computer to end the Day. Since I have a life, I might not end it at the right time (such as today), although I try my best.

    In some cases, I may grant extra Twilight time, but that is up to my discretion, because technically, the players would have received extra time in the form of Day, just not as Twilight, which can be unfair to some mafia. That is just the reality of having a physical, human host instead of an automated computer as your Game Host.

    Now, Republic21 is leaving us, citing that mafia has just lost its luster for him. Consequently, I am a bit annoyed but allowing him to be replaced by Aziraphale.

    Kalas: 7
    Eidolonic, Custer, Schrodinger, Ashaya, Sesc, Vira, Republic21
    7 votes needed to send a denizen to the Echo Firing Range
    Yet to vote: Bill Door, CheddarkTrek, Jeram, Kalas, Krogan, LochNess1

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    Day 3 has entered Twilight.



    [​IMG]

    We have a confirmed death....

    We reached consensus. The Echo Base has chosen to send Kalah Nae Blisters to the Shooting Range. As a blizzard - Hoth's roar, some claim - bristles outside, the younger Rebels congregate, watching the scene of carnage in subdued horror. Spittle flying from his mouth, Kalah denies the charges against him and struggles against his bonds.

    On the periphery of the whispering crowd, the leaders of the Alliance observes the proceedings. Garm Bel Iblis, silent and tall, says nothing.



    Grim with conviction, the would-be executioners dismiss their apprehension, shaking their heads. They raise their blasters. The sound of energy bolts pierce the silence, as Kalah chokes and falls over the durasteel floor, lifeless. The dark burnish of the Empire's badge flutters out of his pocket...

    It appears that Kalas was loyal to the Galactic Empire, an Imperialist! He had been plotting the end of a Rebellion's question for justice, but his evil deeds will be no more...


    Twilight has started.


    Twilight is the frame of time between a successful "lynching" (in this case, choosing someone for execution at the Echo Base shooting range) and the natural conclusion of the day. In twilight, you may still post and discuss anything that has happened. However, you cannot vote to have anyone else to receive an Echo Base execution.

    Posting is now permitted in this thread until 01:30AM EST on May 6, 2012


    Only the following (13) individuals have permission to post in this thread:

    Ash, Aziraphale, Bill Door, CheddarTrek, Custer, Eidolonic, Jeram, Krogan, LochNess, Merrill II (Original Creator), Schrodinger, Sesc, Vira, and Zeitgeist (Host).

    Graveyard: Riley Poole (Jedi Knight), Gambit (Rebel), Aekiel (Rebel), Kalas (Imperialist)
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2012
  16. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter ⭐⭐

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    Yo dudes!

    First off...
    What's with the spelling!?

    Second of all... As Zeit said, I'm a replacement. I know simply saying it doesn't count for all that much, but I'm not scum. I am coming in midway under the suspicion of being so though, so we'll see if I can't try to come out from under that with future posts.

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    Zeit -- Yeah, I was checking regularly for when I could be allowed to post, but it seemed like it was always night. Then I finally notice that it's not night anymore, and it's actually gone and turned into the next night almost. Kinda disconcerting.

    The day feels really short to me actually, compared to others. My bad, heh.
     
  17. Ched

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    Zeit -- Yeah, I was checking regularly for when I could be allowed to post, but it seemed like it was always night. Then I finally notice that it's not night anymore, and it's actually gone and turned into the next night almost. Kinda disconcerting.

    The day feels really short to me actually, compared to others. My bad, heh.
     
  18. Azira

    Azira High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Huh. Reading through the thread, Kalas tried throwing Vira under the bus at the last moment when he had 6 votes against him, so either its a scum ploy of trying to get the heat off her, or it just townfirms her. A bit annoying, I can totally get behind cop checking Vira tonight, it would clear give us alot of info.

    Bill is 100% confirmed scum for me once Kalas flips. Nothing to it.

    I am also 75% sure that noone who voted for Kalas is scum.
     
  19. Schrodinger

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    Wait, when did I end up going from "probably townie" to "as suspicious as fucking Vira"?
     
  20. Zeitgeist

    Zeitgeist High Inquisitor

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    Day 3 has concluded.



    [​IMG]

    The dark sun sets over the cold snap of Hoth....


    Posting in this thread is prohibited until 10:00PM EST (Australia) on 6 May 2012

    Players with night actions need to bold their actions when addressing them to me in the QT. Failure to use the correct format as specified in your QTs will simply result in recording a non-action by me in the player log. I will return a response to Night Actions which have been submitted correctly.



    Only the following (13) individuals have permission to post in this thread:

    Ash, Aziraphale, Bill Door, CheddarTrek, Custer, Eidolonic, Jeram, Krogan, LochNess, Merrill II (Original Creator), Schrodinger, Sesc, Vira, and Zeitgeist (Host).

    Graveyard: Riley Poole (Jedi Knight), Gambit (Rebel), Aekiel (Rebel), Kalas (Imperialist)

    Night 3 has started.

    .
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    [Edited, because of stupid Auto-merge with Day 4. >_>]
     
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