Because this is serious business and a goldmine of fan-fiction possibilities, apparently.

Right, I've been sort of working on creating the foundations of an Earth-2 of my own ever since word broke out about Earth-2 and World's Finest coming in DC's Second Wave, and while I was pretty much doing it as part of a bigger take on a DC reboot, I figure there's enough legs in it to accommodate Harry Potter and company. Either that or my idea for Earth-4, which is pretty much magic oriented and easier for him to slide on in.

I'll post details later once I finish fleshing it out.

 

From the last thread:

Think I've worked out a semi-decent way, but I'm going have to flesh out an A/U Harry's Hogwart's history/background.

Hashasheen: do you mean magic orientated versions of the DC superheroes, alongside the HP cast? It'd be an interesting read.

If you're going to create your own 52 world, there's plenty of stuff out there from old What If comics and barely mentioned timelines (such as Bruce and Selena's kid/Huntress 1) and such, that you could reuse or draw inspiration from.

Wasn't there a reimagining of the HP world by some FFn author, who made Lily and James into superheroes, and Harry went to a 'Sky High' type Hogwarts in America?

 

It'd be interesting if nothing else. I've got quite the soft spot for Kara as a result of her 52 book.

That's actually Earth-33 within the DC Multiverse already.

But to explain briefly, I'm a fan of superheroes thanks to movies and cartoons who didn't really get into comics but knew a lot of the history. When DC announced their reboot, I kinda got into brainstorming mode as to how I would present such a reboot, using existing information on the Multiverse as well as certain eras of DC.

Which resulted in:

Earth-1: Traditional DC superheroes, from the Silver Age and beyond
Earth-2: Golden Age DC Superheroes + Charlton Comics Superheroes + Milestone Media superheroes + Gemworld
Earth-3: original Earth-3 Villains & Superheroes + Captain Comet
Earth-4: Vertigo Superheroes + most supernatural/weird superheroes + original Earth-13 + original Earth-43
Earth-5: Fawcett Comics Superheroes + Quality Comics Superheroes
Earth-6: Wildstorm Superheroes + additions from other pre-52 worlds
Earth-8: Marvel Comics pastiche
Earth-9: Tangent Comics
Earth-10: Nazi-ruled Earth
Earth-11: Smallville-verse
Earth-12: Original DC Animated Universe
Earth-14: Watchman Universe
Earth-16: Young Justice Animated Universe
Earth-17: Atomic Knights Universe
Earth-18: All-Star Western Universe
Earth-20: Pulp version of traditional DC superheroes
Earth-21: New Frontier Universe
Earth-26: Captain Carrot & The Zoo Crew-verse
Earth-29: A DC version of MC2, focusing on the younger characters that existed in the 90s and placing their predecessors in retired roles or older
Earth-33: Magical version of traditional DC superheroes
Earth-48: Forerunners-verse
Earth-51: Kamandi Universe

Earths 7, 13, 15, 19, 22 - 25, 27 - 28, 30 - 32, 34 - 47, 49 - 50, 52 are all "unknowns".

I've fleshed out enough of them to a respectable degree in things such as "The Big Three", main backstory for superheroes, etc...

The ones I feel I could work best with Harry in are Earth-2, Earth-4 & Earth-5. Earth-2 and Earth-4 are the more inherently magical Earths, with characters and teams such as Doctor Fate, Hawkman & Hawkgirl, Shadowpact, while Earth-4 is purely magic/supernatural/horror oriented with the Sentinels of Magic, the Spectre, S.H.A.D.E, Animal Man & Swamp Thing being the big names and focuses. I was especially intrigued with a Master of Death crossover with the Rot in current Animal Man/Swamp Thing continuity, as well as how well Voldemort & Harry could mesh with my retooled Doctor Fate backstory. But even beyond magical concerns was the fact that a lot of my favorite characters are on these three worlds. Captain Marvel, all of the DC Golden Age characters, Static Shock & Icon, the Charlton characters...

I actually rewrote the Huntress paradox for Earth-2 to fit both carriers of the title in a way that made sense.

 

There are all these stories about Harry learning magic from books, games or comics? So how about he copies heroes on TV? He speaks spells like Dr strange or zatanna, or shout Shazam to embowers himself?

There are two types of magic heroes? Those that cast magic or those mystically endowed with their powers.

Most comic Harry is him being brought up in a different lifestyle, becoming a magic batman, xman or ironman of sorts. Why does he not become a hero when he gets the Hollows. He could ride a Threstle into battle, while wearing the hollows and one of those hats that make him seem headless. Would you mess with a headless wizard riding a badass carnivorous flying horse? The hollows are the only magic that would make him a hero on world basis.
There is allot of undead or restless spirits in the comics. Both heroes and villains use death like a revolving door.

 

Those are all viable roots, though I'll be the first to note Zatanna's style of magic is a family one (if easy to replicate), while Dr. Strange meddles in demonic summonings and mysticisms while Shazam is basically magic making Captain Marvel stronger and capable of flight, with a few secondary abilities.

Or those that wield magic through artifacts and no inherent ability of their own. Gwen Tennyson was proof of that during the first series of Ben 10.

That sounds ... remarkably badass. A Headless Horsmen of the Wizarding World, if a little silly to imagine Harry preparing to dress up as.

I don't know about that. Magic in Harry Potter is so incredibly all-encompassing that physics is pretty much it's prison bitch.

There is that angle to take. The Master of Death does mean something, after all...

 

I like your Earth layouts Hash. Lot's of thought and pretty streamlined. I think Earth-10 would be an interesting setting for a accidental time travel story. Could totally see a young James Potter becoming part of the S.S. Mad Scientist Severus would also fit.

 

Doesn't the New 52 (relaunch) basically 'scrap' all those worlds, in favour of a single world, though?

 

Theoretically they were all scrapped and started over.

Earth 2 was just revealed in the New 52 existence and is on it's second issue which also reveals Green Lantern Alan Scott (formally known as the Golden Age Green Lantern) is now gay. :/

 

It's a trend for DC. 1. Kill off/merge all worlds into one. 2. Realize you can't possibly put all world superheroes and comics concepts into one world, and proceed to split them up into several barely developed worlds. 3 Repeat step one and claim its a reboot. 4. See Step 2.

Which in turn removes his gay son from existence. Conservation of gays, perhaps?

 

The way I would see a Master of Death enpowered Harry?

His immortality is a double-edged sword - he can never die, but the ones he loves age and, eventually, die around him.

Though he still uses some bad-ass versions of the Potterverse music, the tone of the story would be more 'Dresden-like' in style/universe - gritty, pretty dark, etc, and not Harry Potter's relatively bright and cheerful outlook/tone.

I'd imagine Harry being in the shadows, between alleyways and such, silently apparating or using the Cloak to remain in the shadows, until the shit hits the fan.

Once done, he sinks back into the shadows, watching.

If you're going to use the whole 'thestral steed' thing, you'll have to becareful not to make him like R' Blots 'Mr. Black', heh.

 

From the interview with the writer of Earth 2, one of the things he commented on was the non-existence of a number of characters, relationships, etc. because of the reboot. Obsidian (Alan Scott's son) has been blasted from the pages of comics. So they had to do something or suffer the wrath of "why did you kill off the gay guys!!!1!!"

 

True - DC is also being heavily criticized due to the lack of women authors for the New 52, at the moment,

 

I can see this easily. I think my MoD Harry/Comic would be DC's Death (from the Endless)

She's just far to awesome of a character to play around with. Obviously he wouldn't be her master because she's just way too powerful and was born before the universe even began. But she would be a good foil to play off of.

Perhaps he'd serve her in some fashion, Death being his mentor in dealing with the mortal world.

I kind of see her being pissed off during the Darkest Night series with Nekron capturing the power of death in the Black Power Rings. It gives the rebooted universe a better reason to exist instead rather then the Flash using the Cosmic Treadmill and taking a wrong turn. (Destiny of the Endless alters the Book of Destiny because nobody can usurp the their power. In essence rebooting the universe.)

Once the world got rebooted she steps in to take preventative measure to make sure it doesn't happen again by having a human representative. ie the one that collected the three hallows.

That gives Harry a valid reason to interact with various Capes (in something like a Death's Cloak which masks his identity), a decent explanation if he needs to be powered up on occasion, and he'd be in the shadows enough to not interfere with the day to day lives of the Capes. So, there couldn't be another Terminal Justice Mary Sue!/Harry.

He'd be more like the Gentleman Stranger or the like.

Then if you want you can stick him in a relationship as Harry Potter (sans shadowy cloak ala Clark Kent) with someone that interests him.

It's an idea anyway.

 

You know, I did find that odd - I know internal consistency is not exactly DC's thing, but Death herself not being pissed off, or even being mentioned, that Nekron was...well, you know.

Major fuck-up on DC's part, right there.

 

The Hollows represent a way to turn Black lantern power to the side of good and the living. Allot of the things that are of the dead or undead, are evil in nature. The MoD act as a counter to them.

 

That's because nobody uses the Endless Death without Gaiman's approvement and recently only Cornell had enough courage to ask.

As for Multiverse, it's still exists and one day we will finally get a mini about it from Morrison. For now there was a short visit to Earth 23 in the last Action Comics.

Also, Harry can be the literal master of Death. As much as she is powerful, let's not forget that she was almost captured instead of her brother at the beginning of Sandman series and there are always rules that even the Endless can't break.

 

The point was to not make Harry into Mary Sue. Having Death at your beck and call would be insuring that.

Having an HP cross with superheroes is dubious and difficult to do realistically (so to speak). At least for a semi-serious story and not crackfic. The trick is to have a good reason for him to be there and stay there without overpowering him and having him be everyone's best friend, etc.

This is why almost every HP/Comic crossover sucks.

I wouldn't have him anymore powerful than he was at the end of DH, just more competent and intelligent. Maybe being the MoD would allow him to access some of Death's powers when he is on Death's business; a Black Power Ring or something similar to take care of the major threats to Death's power, like Nekron et al would be enough.

I still think the reasons for him being there need to be tweaked, but it would work.

 

So Harry P. would be Death Knight to Dresden's Winter Knight?

 

The Endless really shouldn't exist in the same universe as mainstream DC, IMO. Always felt they were far more a Vertigo concept that anything else. But then DC's always had trouble deciding whether or not Vertigo was it's own collection of universes or a part of DC's Multiverse.

 

*blink* Damn, now it sounds like I'm stealing the idea, but yeah that would be a pretty fair description and possibly a decent title for the story. Just less politics and more trust between them.

I think it's a case of too many cooks. There are far too many "ultimate powers" that bounce off of one another, but since I like the Endless and don't like most of the others, I'd rather they be the ones that are disappeared.