A movie that's probably going to be a hundred times better than the actual canon universe? Is that what you're talking about?

 

It probably will, but if Obito is from another dimension I will be pretty pissed.

 

New chapter is out.

Spoiler

I'm kind of annoyed that we weren't shown how Madara vs. the Kages ended. And why the hell would Madara leave them all alive while they're just lying there, utterly defeated? Stupid plot device, I'm looking at you. But anyway, I knew Madara would end up being the main villain, at least for a time.

Anyone think it's possible he will succeed in removing the Kyuubi from Naruto?

Edit: Also, page eight. Tsunade is torn in two halves. Oh, Madara. :awesome

 

I think one of them will betray the other. That would be cliché enough for Kishi.

And I will restate my question from last week: What do you think is Madaras plan?

I can´t imagine the Genjutsu thing. Not that we know of his ultimate motivations yet, but didn´t Tobi have an adverse reaction to M. being edo tensaid?

My best bet at this point is that Tobi has different ideas for the Juubi than Madara.

 

If his ideas are at all similar to the elder son of the Rikudou Sennin, Madara probably wants the Juubi in order to rule the world with fear, thanks to the enormous power he would have. He obviously aspires to be like the Rikudou Sennin (at least in terms of power). He already has the Rinnegan and Senju genetic modifications, giving him the same abilities as the original Rikudou Sennin (though perhaps not to anywhere near the same extent, since his Senju DNA is second-hand and not a natural part of him). It would only make sense that he wants to become the jinchuuriki of the Juubi in order to make himself into a new Rikudou Sennin figure.

I suspect he might succeed in taking the Kyuubi from Naruto and Hachibi from Killer B. All the bijuu made a pact with Naruto, so it's possible the Juubi will remember that and be loyal to Naruto in the end. Hard to say what will happen, though.

Edit: Hrm, having reviewed Madara's initial fight against Naruto and the Tsuchikage, he did say something about 'Mankind would be better off sleeping in the Infinite Tsukuyomi', so that actually probably is his real intention.

 

I don't see why Madara would have a problem with the genjutsu. He is an actual Uchiha. Why rule by fear when you can rule by enslaving everyone to your will with genjutsu?

 

Nevermind, I think I misunderstood.

 

One thing i wonder is what the hell did Hashirama do to Madara that led him to create this convoluted plan and stay in hiding so long. Hell he could have recovered in a couple of years, wait for Hashirama to die (it's implied he died shortly after valley of the end), and then proceed to single handedly destroy hidden villages and collect the Tailed Beasts, which considering what we have seen of him would be viable for him as I doubt anyone could stand against him.

 

Perhaps his injuries were not the sort that could be recovered from completely.

Hashirama may have crippled him as best he could, since apparently he couldn't kill him.

 

>Voted Hokage over Madara
>Handed out Bijuu to enemy villages
>Turned Uchiha away from Madara's PoV over the years
>Beat his sorry ass at VotE

 

^ I think Izangi meant physical injuries.What I didn't get was when Madara said He was a Kage Bunshin too , was he talking about Naruto?

Also, I think the Tobi vs Minato fight was actually Madara using Obito's body.

Cant wait to see the flashback next chapter.

 

The Kage Bunshin Madara spoke of was indeed Naruto. After getting hit with his own redirected Bijuu Rasengan, he dispersed in a puff of smoke like a Kage Bunshin would.

Madara and Naruto are both so ridiculously over-powered. They can both create armies of godlike fighters. Naruto can presumably create a bunch of Kage Bunshin and have them all use Bijuu Mode. And Madara can create an unlimited number of Mokuton Bunshin and have them all use final-form Susanoo. Ridiculous.

The only way I can think of that Naruto and Killer B could possibly defeat Madara is if Naruto tricked Madara into absorbing natural energy from him while he's in Sage Mode. That way, Madara would turn into a stone toad statue, which I don't think counts as physical damage (it's more of a transformation than an injury), so he likely wouldn't regenerate from that form. Other than that, though, Naruto and B are fucked.

 

Or the Third was really such a badass that even Madara didn't want to face him.

I like that plan, but knowing this kind of manga they will probably use a bigger gun/jutsu.

 

Naruto took out one of Nagato's Paths that way, and one rule of Shounen is that the same powerful technique or underhanded trick never works twice.

 

I am still hoping that Narutos KCM/BM will result in Madaras Hashirama-boob ripping itself out of Madara. Narutos Kyuubi-chakra causes mokuton to go haywire and Madara has Hashiramas mokuton-face on his chest if you recall.

 

Heh, would be funny if it caused Hashirama to reform out of it, akin to how Orochimaru was recently resurrected.

I wonder what will happen between Kabuto and Anko in that cave once Orochimaru, Sasuke, etc. have left. I can see Kabuto turning a new leaf and wanting to join the Shinobi Alliance. Maybe he'll heal Anko and they'll go after Orochimaru.

And then there's the whole sub-plot of whatever Karin is doing.

So many damn loose ends. If Kishi rushes this manga to get to the end and leaves tons of questions unanswered, I'll be royally pissed off.

 

I don't like where this is headed. Tsunade's my favorite character. Damn.

 

If something happens, then more likely the face will just turn into a massive tree the way Danzos Hashirama-face did. Thats actually one of the reasons why I think this could happen to Madara. We already saw and had it told that having Hashiramas face in your body is dangerous. Sure, Danzo was apparently just an imperfect prototype, but at the same time he lost control solely because he was stabbed with a sword. The effect Naruto has on Mokuton is on a whole different level. If Narutos BM won't affect Madaras Mokuton here and now, then what was the point of making it effect Mokuton at all?

But if it does, then I could see preta path coming to play. I mean we saw with edo!Nagato that when he absorbed that chakra-cloak from Bee, he was rejunevated which means the absorbed chakra does not disappear but is transferred to the body of the user. The same effect caused that Pain path to turn to a toad statue so we saw that there too.

So what would happen if Naruto fired a huge bijuudama towards Madara, and Madara absorbed it with preta. He would suddenly have absorbed a massive amount of Mokuton-disrupting chakra into his body. I could well see that causing his Mokuton to go haywire, and it would even be a way of defeating/weakening Madara thats been foreshadowed for a while now. I would much prefer something like that to some random asspull technique.

The trouble with Kabuto turning good is that its extremely unlikely that people would forgive him. I mean he is the guy who brought back all the edo tenseis, including Madara, so he is responsible for most of the casualties in this entire war. I could see Naruto (since he is apparently now a ninja jesus) accepting that Kabuto had turned a new leaf and is trying to redeem himself, but the rest of the alliance would want him dead.

Hmm. I could potentially see somekind of redemption equals death thing for Kabuto though. He and Orochimaru developed a poison that somehow neutralises mokuton. If Narutos BM won't do the job, then I wonder what that would do if injected to edo!Madara who seems to rely on mokuton more than he does on his own sharingan powers right now. Kabuto also knows where Yamato is located and imprisoned, so he could in theory go and release him as a sign of good faith to Naruto that he now wants to redeem himself

I really hope she is still not going after Sasuke. Or if she is, then with murder in mind this time. It might be interesting to see how those two others (Juugo and Suigetsu I think?) with Sasuke would react, if Karin informed them how little Sasuke cares for them all and how easily he would be willing to kill them if if suited him.

Agreed.

 

I for one am glad that this war has finally stopped being some G-rated shit. Considering how powerful Madara is, it's absurd that all of the Kages aren't already dead. Why he left them lying there without finishing them off for good, I have no idea.

Tsunade is going to kick the bucket soon, which is necessary if Naruto is ever going to become Hokage, anyway.

The only Kages I ever expected would survive the war are Mei and Gaara. They're both young enough, and a big part of the manga is about passing on the torch to the next generation. Also, Mei was the only Kage with enough common sense to realise that fighting Madara was futile. Oonoki, Tsunade, and A wouldn't back down, even though they didn't stand a remote chance of winning. A will probably die as well, since it's already been hinted at that Darui will replace him as the next Raikage. Who wants a one-armed Raikage anyway?

At least Tsunade's death would enrage Naruto and lead to an awesome fight. Her surviving this would just be... underwhelming.

 

Meh. The Kages have been constantly fighting for how long now? They must have been running pretty low, so it's no surprise that Madara destroyed them. Maybe at full strength, they'd stand a chance.

Also, for the supposed embodiment of the perfect Shinobi, Madara is surprisingly sloppy, leaving the lot of them alive, if barely.