Can't carry shitty Vayne and Akali that 100% focus super tank Cho.

DARIUS, KHA, AND TARIC CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH.

Dumbass ADCs buying Bcleaver when they're 1v1 focused and don't need AR Pen at all.

 

Well, new Black Cleaver is really strong, but like all other ARPen items, you need some actual damage to go with it. And in the case of Black Cleaver you also need attack speed to take advantage of its passive.

People are just buying it cause it is shiny and new without thinking through the implications properly. So sad, but totally not a surprise.

 

No, you really don't need atk spd and other damage. BCleaver IS that damage and it's a caster item.

Why the fuck would any self-respecting ADC buy it unless they had obscene AOE, like MF, to proc it stupid-fast?

ADCs do NOT, ever, buy Bcleaver. It's terrible for them. The thing for Kha Zix, Pantheon, and Talon to absolutely wreck people because they all proc physical and don't need crappy atk spd. Not shitty ADCs.

 

Still waiting on the Patch on EUW, guess it goes out tonight meaning I probably won't get much of a chance to test things out till Thursday. Found out I suck at jungle Sin, seems like I only really play Amumu, Maokai & the occasional Mundo game... Should probably practise Cho and Fiddle with these changes coming in.

As for support's, bit the bullet and got Lulu, 3/0 with her thus far though to be fair one of those was support Cho with a terribad Ashe and another game was won when we had a level 2 gank go wrong and got a triple. Somehow. I don't even know. All I was aware of was Sin coming in behind tower & getting condemned into a wall, free red for Vayne. Next thing she has a triple against Corki Sona.

Spose I better start reading up on the support items, they look fun as hell, though I feel like Philo/Kage's will be the new standard double GP10 build if we need it. Can't see going deep utility being worth it unless you're ranged/go balls deep with your ADC.

 

Edit - Double posts...

 

The standard GP/10 build is no GP/10.

Sight stone to chalice. Covers all regen needs. The wards from sightstone cover the gold gen of 1 GP/10.

 

Black Cleaver on Garen is stupid strong.

Tiamat Malphite is really fun

Gonna go test more stuff now ~~

 

I still like building the gp/10s, since Shurelia and Kage's both upgrade to interesting support items. But yeah, they aren't necessary now, since you don't have to spend like 2k gold on wards in a game. And chalice builds into Crucible, aka ally QSS.

 

I still think grabbing an early philo beats most items, though I agree with a sightstone, why the hell not. Can probably avoid grabbing boots till your 3rd item in terms of laning phase though I guess that'd be dependant upon match up.

Thus far from streams, Black Cleaver Garen & Liandry's Torment on Rumble are rather crazy.

 

ap amumu with a liandy is stupidly op.

 

BCleavers stack. Not the passive mind you, but every single stat on that thing stacks.

Technically passive too, if you count faster application as stacking.

Talon just got ALL sorts of BS.

 

Teemo with hurricane, malady and mallet. Just lol.

 

Ruunan seems like an AD trap, but an on-hit goldmine. I built TF with Nashors, greaves, and hurricane for fun and it was surprisingly effective (with 2 targets around you can, with a little forethought) hit his E every single time, which at that rate deals more than a leveled W.

 

Some AD's benefit more from it than others, such as Caitlyn, with her passive proccing much much faster in group fights. Still not something to get early, but she can definitely benefit from it.

 

Fun times with Professor Singed is now extra fun and all the time.

Start with the standard Catalyst -> boots (Sorc, swiftness or merc)-> ROA rush. Then, of course, the fun begins.

Get a tear. It's only 700 now and works amazingly for Singed. While traveling to strategic locations, feather your gas on and off to quickly get the extra mana to full. While backing and in shop, just leave the gas on. At full capacity you're going to have 3000 health along with your ROA. Proceed to get Archangels -> Seraph and never die again.

Still time left in the match? Get Twin Shadows or Rylais, or both if you have time. If you're at your sixth item slot (for which I'd recommend haunting guise -> Liandry's Torment) then your team is either cruelly fucking with the enemy or throwing it harder than any team in history.

After the enemy is sobbing in disgrace, take your post-win taunting gracefully. I've always found 'How about a drink?' to be particularly poignant.

 

Was looking at crazy things I'd like to do, and this looks like fun.

Long story short? Anti-bruiser Ryze.

edit: Works on Singed too, I guess. Trade off of damage for health (~890 hp from passive, which isn't added by the builder).

 

It's utterly unrealistic to think you'll get both Muramana and Seraph's in a single game unless it goes incredibly long. It simply takes to long to stack two tears with a 3 second cooldown. Especially since all of Ryze's spells are targeted, it would be a bit easier if he could cast them without a target.

Better off picking one or the other.

 

Tired of seeing ranged champs buying melee only items.

 

Had the first one stacked by 15 minutes. The second one there is no rush for, since manamune will stack itself as you teamfight, and you already get a decent portion of damage from it (50+damage) because of your finished Seraph/mana pool.

 

Really? Maybe its just me then, I always seemed to take forever for me to stack the damn thing. Well if it works for you I guess.