So untrue. You're just mad about my WW comments back in the day.

AP sion two-shotting people is the most fun you will ever have. It is quite fun to have a 600 HP shield that just shrugs off most burst, running in lane and being quite untouchable by the enemy, or stunning people under tower, or reactivating your shield with 22 HP and surviving a full ignite. Not to mention that (80% of the time) I get the satisfaction of an entire wave dying at once, every time.

No, mordekaiser is easier to gank. Any other melee mid has an escape or farms from range. If morde farms from range, it's A) Subpar range and B) very pushy, forcing the lane farther from safety anyway. If morde doesn't farm from range, he is 4-500 range farther from safety than any other ranged mid champion. On top of that, while champions like Gragas can push it with a single barrel and simultaneously take all the creeps at once, Morde's damage is subpar for that and he requires multiple spells to clear a wave. It isn't any less effective at farming, but it does require a much heavier commitment to it.

On top of that, most other mids have CC. If someone comes at Ahri, she charms. If someone comes at Sion, he stuns. If someone comes at Morg, she binds. Even the juke to the side to avoid the bind is enough to save Morgana if she isn't playing balls to the wall forward, without even getting into the power of her shield ignoring slows and CCs.

Morde is the easiest character to gank in the game because at any time you can walk into lane and kill him, unless he is already beating his lane opponent, which he shouldn't be, because his contributions to a gank and his 1v1 capabilities are dismal for a very long time. I'm sure if you fight against people who stand in the creep wave and eat his harass constantly, you will have a grand old time. But relying on your opponent's stupidity does not make a champion viable. There is no other AP mid champ that is as easy to gank as Mordekaiser. I'm not going to make a list detailing every single reason why, but if you want to make a argument for why any other mid champ is either as easily or more easily ganked than mordekaiser, I'll offer rebuttal.

This may be a case (again) where my particular mid champions match up favorably against him, but mordekaiser is the one champion that I long to see more, because his is so pathetically weak and easy to kill.

 

Rather just play Veigar or Annie or even Karma if I want to two-shot people and have fun. Sion two-shots people and then forces the player to snooze as their two spells are boring.

 

All of which have lower win rates than sion iirc

Updated my post, but it's more the fact that you 2 shot people and also don't give any fucks, whereas all three of your mentioned champions are squishy cunts that need to give as many fucks as possible, or get brutally raped.

 

And don't forget one you get your deathfire grasp, Sion will have THREE spells to use!

 

I made a thread here to discuss something that got brought up in this thread. Mordekaiser is labeled as a "fighter" on the client, but many people build him as a "mage". Similarly, the label of "pusher" is one that is not considered desirable to some, and melee carry have no place in league of legends at the moment. I hope that by combining the experience and intelligence of the community not only can we more accurately identify the best ways to play a champion, but see a trend in the types of champions and how they interact with other champions of the same, and different archetypes.

also more on topic:

I define sustain as "anything that keeps you in the lane longer" or "anything that contributes positively to your effective health" in which case a shield is definitely sustain.

 

Flash is sustain under that definition.

 

It's harder to think of things that flash isn't than flash is to be honest.

 

AP Teemo top is my new favorite thing. Sorc boots, Liandrys and Rylais bring horror to your enemies. In each game they've had to send 3 people to come gank me and they always turn tail when they cross the field of shrooms.

 

don't forget hurricane and malady.

 

It comes down to how well your opponent knows Teemo.
I can honestly say I've never had issue with Teemo top, but I think that comes down to the champs I play. As Malphite, I can go in and take my last hit or two with the shield tanking it, then just burst him at 6. As Wukong, I just win the trades. E--Q trumps his damage and stealth away before he can get more than an autoattack off. As Jarvan, the trades are really far in my favor.

If you win pre 6, you win entirely. Teemo excels when he gets ganked post 6, but not if he is ganked pre 6 and not if you have to gank for teemo.

But if your opponent knows how to not eat all of Teemo's powerful harass, you are fighting an uphill battle where the end result is a very poor teamfighter.

 

Teemo was one of my favorites last season. He gets shat all over by champs like Pantheon, Jarvan and Yorick early if they have any idea what they're doing.

When team fights erupt it's hard to do much other than drop a blind on the enemy AD carry and run around shooting darts at whoever comes close. Frozen Mallet and Malady help. Otherwise you have to rely on shrooms and their positioning to be effective.

Even if you pull ahead like crazy, say 2-3 levels over your lane opponent, and manage to run to the other lanes to gank and drop shrooms, Teemo's kit doesn't do a ton for the team.

 

I‘ve been playing a lot of Akali and Katarina lately. They are quite similar, both in playstyle, kit and build. Not completely, of course, but the similarities are striking.

So, I ask this of DLP. Which would you prefer, and why? Ignore outside parameters, like enemy team comp etc. Which of the two champions do you prefer playing, and what is it about them that gives them this edge over the other?
(This is NOT a 1v1 situation)

 

Akali.

Why? I just Kat immensely. I don't like being almost entirely dependent on the enemy team not knowing how to focus their CC.

 

Not fond of either of them, that old scenario where the one on your side plays terribly, the other hits Legendary inside 15 minutes and becomes a teamfighting machine.

If I had to choose, probably Akali. The fact she can dive out her shroud, wreck your ADC and jump on someone else whilst you blink is fairly scary. At least with Kat you know exactly what's going to happen once she gets a good position. Akali just dances around causing chaos usually even if she's just as easy to exhaust/CC, her shroud's infinitely more annoying than Shunpo despite its inherent weaknesses. Still, it's scary how many people as WD said, can't focus/save their CC for Kat/Akali. Whenever I'm against one, I pray I have exhaust, anything up to help and that my ADC actually tries to get away rather than stand there and melt (albeit vs a 3 mark Akali, there's little point).

That and I'm not a fan of Kat's reworked model, the way she runs is just... annoying. Doesn't look remotely right.

 

You confuse me BsB. You just said "Akali is great because she can be CC and give no fucks." and then you said "I pray when I play against her I can cc her."

I prefer Akali over Kat. Even if only her ult resets, in general being able to tell teams "Nope, suckers" with shroud if they don't have a pink is too strong compared to being resourceless.

 

I like playing kat more, even if akali is stronger.

 

On another note, I picked up J4 today, and played the hell out of him. I love how aggressive he can be and get away with it.

On the other hand, any time I played any other champion today (except once with Viktor) it's like the enemy team decided I was public enemy #1 and would constantly blow everything to shut me down utterly and totally. I had one game as Akali (vs Orianna) where Jungle Yi was in my lane seven times (from five different directions) before the 10 minute mark. I don't know how the fuck he had time to jungle. I warded, but I simply didn't have the income with him camping me so hard;... to keep the wards up. Eventually I was just shut down totally, and ended with a crap score.

The next game, I played Diana. But the enemy Vi, GP and Garen all decided that My Face severely offended them, and proceeded to gangbang me at every opportunity. Once more, I was shut down from the very start, and ended with a super-horrid score.

Today was a mixed day for League. On J4 (and once with Viktor) I was glorious, unstoppable, useful. A leader and teammate that my team respected.

Every other time was utter and total shit.

Ugh. :/ this is one thing I don't like about LoL, the experience is just too chaotic.

Also: 900 posts. Damn.

 

Me? Like Akali? noooo...

Also, considering I only have one Penta on Kat, but six(or seven?) on Akali...

Well, joking, it's true, but joking.

I doubt I could give an unbiased opinion if I tried, but BsuperB sort of reflected my opinion on the matter. If nothing else, Kat can(kills/assists aside, although the effect is just as amplified for Akali) only Shunpo+Flash for two jumps, whereas Akali can Ult+Flash for four jumps. Cooldown's on Akali's other movies are (usually) negligible enough not to matter, aside from her W.

Also, delicious, delicious spell-vamp.

 

I choose Katarina. I hate being dependent on enemy team to not drop a pink ward and focus their cc.